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[woolybug25]

please list these infractions Florida had under Meyer

Don't act like specific NCAA actions against Florida are the only way to validate the scummyness that went on there under Meyer. The drugs, oversigning, lengthy arrests record (31 arrests in the summer of '05 alone), lying and cheating are well documented.

From champs to chomped: How Urban Meyer broke Florida football - NCAA Football - Sporting News

Florida Gators arrest record under Urban Meyer chronicled by HBO, USA Today – Open Mike – Orlando Sentinel

Ohio State Buckeyes' Urban Meyer defends his time with Florida Gators - ESPN

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Report: Urban Meyer Ran Marijuana-Infused, Zero Accountability Program That Left Florida Decimated As Soon As He Quit - Business Insider

Pull your head out of the sand.

 

[ALLGATOR]

Don't act like specific NCAA actions against Florida are the only way to validate the scummyness that went on there under Meyer. The drugs, oversigning, lengthy arrests record (31 arrests in the summer of '05 alone), lying and cheating are well documented.

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Pull your head out of the sand.

so no recruiting violations? where is the cheating?

 

[ALLGATOR]

Meyer is the ultimate used car salesmen but he was not a cheat at Florida

 

[woolybug25]

so no recruiting violations? where is the cheating?

Did you actually read any of the articles? Or did you just jump right into being defensive?

Meyer is the ultimate used car salesmen but he was not a cheat at Florida

So allowing players to do drugs isn't cheating? Misleading the NCAA with "injuries" to hide failed drug tests isn't cheating?

Whatever, dude.

 

[ALLGATOR]

Did you actually read any of the articles? Or did you just jump right into being defensive?

I have read most of those articles before nothing new.

 

[woolybug25]

I have read most of those articles before nothing new.

Then, "no"...

Good retort...

 

[IrishLion]

Urban had more players arressted at Florida than he graduated. That's got to a be a real number somewhere, right?

 

[ALLGATOR]

Did you actually read any of the articles? Or did you just jump right into being defensive?



So allowing players to do drugs isn't cheating? Misleading the NCAA with "injuries" to hide failed drug tests isn't cheating?

Whatever, dude.

Coaches suspend players that way who is it misleading? Pop Saunders has been "injured" multiple times in his career under both Meyer and Muschamp. Right now he has "knee injury". He did not play the last few games of the season and wont play in the bowl game Everybody knows he failed a drug test. That is not cheating.

 

[ALLGATOR]

Then, "no"...

Good retort...

If you read something and remember it would you read it again for no reason?

 

[woolybug25]

Coaches suspend players that way who is it misleading? Pop Saunders has been "injured" multiple times in his career under both Meyer and Muschamp. Right now he has "knee injury". He did not play the last few games of the season and wont play in the bowl game Everybody knows he failed a drug test. That is not cheating.

Weird... because according to the NCAA drug testing policy, a one game ban is not the punishment for a failed drug test.

The penalty for positive tests of both performance-enhancing and street drugs is strict and automatic. Student-athletes lose one full year of eligibility for the first offense (25 percent of their total eligibility) and are withheld from competition for a full season. A second positive test for street drugs results in another lost year of eligibility and year withheld from competition. A second positive result for PED usage will render the student-athlete permanently ineligible.

He instead had them fake injuries to conceal it. That is cheating, my friend. Maybe not in your eyes, but to the rest of the rational world it is.

 

[woolybug25]

If you read something and remember it would you read it again for no reason?

Because you obviously missed the points of all of the articles listed. That, or you are a complete imbecile.

 

[IrishLion]

To be fair Wooly, almost every program disguises a failed drug test or being caught using as "a violation of team rules" and dishes out a 1 or 2 game suspension.

 

[ALLGATOR]

Weird... because according to the NCAA drug testing policy, a one game ban is not the punishment for a failed drug test.



He instead had them fake injuries to conceal it. That is cheating, my friend. Maybe not in your eyes, but to the rest of the rational world it is.

I guess damn near every team in America is cheating then.

 

[woolybug25]

I guess damn near every team in America is cheating then.

Maybe, but your team more than others...

 

[ALLGATOR]

Maybe, but your team more than others...

lol nice try wooly it will all be ok

 

[Bobias]

I guess damn near every team in America is cheating then.

Yes, and anyone here who thinks ND is squeaky clean is delusional. They aren't as bad as other programs, but they are not the be all end all of NCAA compliance and program transparency.

 

[aubeirish]

Cheating without getting caught is still cheating. Isn't it?

 

[woolybug25]

lol nice try wooly it will all be ok

You keep saying "nice try" to people that tell you what's up. You disproved nothing I said and it is well documented that Urban ran a shady as hell program at Florida.


Why are you even here, again?

 

[ALLGATOR]

You keep saying "nice try" to people that tell you what's up. You disproved nothing I said and it is well documented that Urban ran a shady as hell program at Florida.


Why are you even here, again?

wooley Meyer and Zook recruited some "bad" kids so what?

 

[woolybug25]

wooley Meyer and Zook recruited some "bad" kids so what?

And then proceeded to let them do as they pleased, including drugs and getting arrested.

Seems like you are pretty proud of that.


Don't make fun of other schools like Clemson for being shady when you clearly are accepting of it at your own program.

 

[ALLGATOR]

And then proceeded to let them do as they pleased, including drugs and getting arrested.

Seems like you are pretty proud of that.


Don't make fun of other schools like Clemson for being shady when you clearly are accepting of it at your own program.

weed and paying people is a little different

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Now lets get back to the Bogtrotter show on the Bogtrotter thread; all Bogs, all of the time!

 

[dshans]

Now lets get back to the Bogtrotter show on the Bogtrotter thread; all Bogs, all of the time!

Meh. I'm not interested in being mired down every day ...

 

[NDinFL]

weed and paying people is a little different

But both illegal in collegiate athletics....

You can be dismissive and deflect as much as you want to, but you're flat out wrong on this one.

 

[Grahambo]

weed and paying people is a little different

A list of Florida Gators arrested during Urban Meyer's tenure - Orlando Sentinel

3 pages worth

Under Muschamp:


Janoris Jenkins: Arrested twice for possession of marijuana (Jan. 22, 2011 and April 23, 2011). He was dismissed from the team.

Kedric Johnson: Arrested for possession of marijuana Jan. 27, 2011. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

Chris Martin: Arrested for possession of marijuana Jan. 29, 2011. Team punishment not announced. Transferred in June 2011.

De’Ante Saunders: Arrested for possession of marijuana May 25, 2011. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

Matt Elam: Arrested for underage alcohol possession of alcohol on July 24, 2011. That was his second arrest on that charge. He also was also arrested in 2010. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

Dee Finley: Arrested for driving with a suspended license and resisting arrest without violence on Sept. 12, 2011. Team punishment not announced, but he did not play against Tennessee in the following game. Transferred in October 2011.

Marcus Roberson: Arrested for underage possession of alcohol on Sept. 19, 2011. Still on team. Team punishment not announced.

Leon Orr: Arrested for misdemeanor possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia on Jan. 10, 2012. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

A.C. Leonard: Arrested for battery on Feb. 15, 2012. Situation pending.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

A list of Florida Gators arrested during Urban Meyer's tenure - Orlando Sentinel

3 pages worth

Under Muschamp:


Janoris Jenkins: Arrested twice for possession of marijuana (Jan. 22, 2011 and April 23, 2011). He was dismissed from the team.

Kedric Johnson: Arrested for possession of marijuana Jan. 27, 2011. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

Chris Martin: Arrested for possession of marijuana Jan. 29, 2011. Team punishment not announced. Transferred in June 2011.

De’Ante Saunders: Arrested for possession of marijuana May 25, 2011. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

Matt Elam: Arrested for underage alcohol possession of alcohol on July 24, 2011. That was his second arrest on that charge. He also was also arrested in 2010. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

Dee Finley: Arrested for driving with a suspended license and resisting arrest without violence on Sept. 12, 2011. Team punishment not announced, but he did not play against Tennessee in the following game. Transferred in October 2011.

Marcus Roberson: Arrested for underage possession of alcohol on Sept. 19, 2011. Still on team. Team punishment not announced.

Leon Orr: Arrested for misdemeanor possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia on Jan. 10, 2012. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

A.C. Leonard: Arrested for battery on Feb. 15, 2012. Situation pending.

That was one heck of a tough week in Jan 2011. Then again in Jan 2012. Any takers that someone gets pinched in Jan 2013?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Long season dude!

 

[ALLGATOR]

A list of Florida Gators arrested during Urban Meyer's tenure - Orlando Sentinel

3 pages worth

Under Muschamp:


Janoris Jenkins: Arrested twice for possession of marijuana (Jan. 22, 2011 and April 23, 2011). He was dismissed from the team.

Kedric Johnson: Arrested for possession of marijuana Jan. 27, 2011. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

Chris Martin: Arrested for possession of marijuana Jan. 29, 2011. Team punishment not announced. Transferred in June 2011.

De’Ante Saunders: Arrested for possession of marijuana May 25, 2011. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

Matt Elam: Arrested for underage alcohol possession of alcohol on July 24, 2011. That was his second arrest on that charge. He also was also arrested in 2010. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

Dee Finley: Arrested for driving with a suspended license and resisting arrest without violence on Sept. 12, 2011. Team punishment not announced, but he did not play against Tennessee in the following game. Transferred in October 2011.

Marcus Roberson: Arrested for underage possession of alcohol on Sept. 19, 2011. Still on team. Team punishment not announced.

Leon Orr: Arrested for misdemeanor possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia on Jan. 10, 2012. Still on the team. Team punishment not announced.

A.C. Leonard: Arrested for battery on Feb. 15, 2012. Situation pending.

So kid gets in trouble for weed or alcohol kid gets punished they are not going to announce anything. You can not compare that to illegal recruiting.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

If it is a known pattern of behaivor from early in high school? And it is overlooked, ignored, or covered up?

 

[irishpat183]

Using the thread search, it looks like your memory's correct.

The first time the drama/theatre major thing came up was a post about a week and a half ago about an analogy between Amir and Max breaking down because Amir wanted to major in drama. No further mention until we started looking at the "business decision" statement.

The only other discussion of what he wants to study is a mention several months ago that Oregon fans were trying to rebut ND's claim of academic superiority by pointing to their top-rated sports marketing program. It was never clarified whether Max has said he wants to major in that or Oregon fans were just grasping at the nearest straw.

Per Rivals, Redfield is looking to major in Criminal Justice. Link

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Might I add we're playing for the national title next week!