Nov 9 | Florida State

[Some Irish Bloke]

Norvell isn’t in the hot seat after two games. They went undefeated and won the ACC last year. Would’ve been a playoff team without Travis injury

Seat is hotter, sure….but it’s not hot (yet)

I beg to differ, he is getting absolutely roasted on X.

He is 2-9 in games without Jordan Travis. I know JT was a great football player, but a program with FSU's pedigree should be able to recruit and build depth. Not to mention NIL and transfer portal era makes it easier than ever to fill partial QB gaps. And he chose....a completely washed DJU.

His seat is burning hot. It's more of a question if they'll pay his buyout or further suffer his ineptitude.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

I want there to be a case study on the rise and fall of Florida schools. Miami, Florida and FSU all had a dominate run and then fell to levels below mediocre. Its quite impressive.

 

[FLDomer]

I want there to be a case study on the rise and fall of Florida schools. Miami, Florida and FSU all had a dominate run and then fell to levels below mediocre. Its quite impressive.

Miami has a chance to really be good this yr. Unfortunately, now I have to listen to all my In-laws

 

[MacIrish75]

Rodemaker left. Brock Glenn is next man in. He "played" in the Bowl game vs Georgia.

Good look. I did see Glenn there on the sideline after a TD last night.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Miami has a chance to really be good this yr. Unfortunately, now I have to listen to all my In-laws

My prayers are with you.

 

[Hautian Domer]

No longer worried about this one. FSU lost way too much from last year and it was downplayed more than it should have been.

USC, however, now concerns me. It’s basically now a two game season: Louisville and USC.

 

[Irish#1]

I want there to be a case study on the rise and fall of Florida schools. Miami, Florida and FSU all had a dominate run and then fell to levels below mediocre. Its quite impressive.

No need for the study. It's quite simple. FSU had Bobby, Miami had Jimmy and Florida had Meyer. These were accomplished salesmen that knew how to play in the grey area of the NCAA and keep the local police from locking up their players.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

No need for the study. It's quite simple. FSU had Bobby, Miami had Jimmy and Florida had Meyer. These were accomplished salesmen that knew how to play in the grey area of the NCAA and keep the local police from locking up their players.

Thanks for shattering my dreams of a future Netflix doc

 

[Katzenboyer]

I want there to be a case study on the rise and fall of Florida schools. Miami, Florida and FSU all had a dominate run and then fell to levels below mediocre. Its quite impressive.

Pretty much starts and ends with the fact that every school in the country started recruiting Florida south of I-4 in the 2000s, whereas FSU, UF and Miami had it all to themselves before that.

Canes are good this year though, so long as Cam Ward stays healthy.

 

[Katzenboyer]

I beg to differ, he is getting absolutely roasted on X.

He is 2-9 in games without Jordan Travis. I know JT was a great football player, but a program with FSU's pedigree should be able to recruit and build depth. Not to mention NIL and transfer portal era makes it easier than ever to fill partial QB gaps. And he chose....a completely washed DJU.

His seat is burning hot. It's more of a question if they'll pay his buyout or further suffer his ineptitude.

Fans may want him gone, but they just gave him a 10-year contract in February. His seat is no where close to warm, and FSU doesn't have the money to pay the buyout.

I agree with you that he's not a great coach and got VERY lucky that Jordan Travis turned into a really, really good player. But he's not going anywhere.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Pretty much starts and ends with the fact that every school in the country started recruiting Florida south of I-4 in the 2000s, whereas FSU, UF and Miami had it all to themselves before that.

Canes are good this year though, so long as Cam Ward stays healthy.

I just find it wild that when they finally crash, they crash hard.

 

[pumpdog20]

 

[NDLS_USMC]

Fans may want him gone, but they just gave him a 10-year contract in February. His seat is no where close to warm, and FSU doesn't have the money to pay the buyout.

I agree with you that he's not a great coach and got VERY lucky that Jordan Travis turned into a really, really good player. But he's not going anywhere.

Buyout is $6M. Serious question: Is that too much for FSU boosters?

LINK: Source on buyout figure

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Can the ACC sue Florida State for making the conference look so weak?

 

[Katzenboyer]

Buyout is $6M. Serious question: Is that too much for FSU boosters?

LINK: Source on buyout figure

That's IF Norvell chooses to "end the contract prematurely."

If Norvell is fired, his buyout is $60+ million.

How much is Mike Norvell's buyout at Florida State?

Mike Norvell is off to a horrendous start to his 2024 campaign at Florida State and some fans are already talking buyout. What would his buyout be?

saturdayblitz.com

Norvell's buyout in 2024 would be $6 million and then it decreases every year after. In 2025, the buyout drops to $4 million, then $3 million in 2026, $2 million in 2027 and then down to $1 million in 2029 before being $0 in 2030 and 2031.

However, those buyout numbers stipulate if the contract should be "ended prematurely by the employee".

Should FSU decide to fire Norvell, reports are that they would be required to pay him 85 percent of his remaining contract. Meaning, Norvell would be due near a whopping $63 million.

They almost certainly don't have that money, as it was a struggle for them to pay Taggart's $17M buyout after he got canned.

 

[ulukinatme]

No longer worried about this one. FSU lost way too much from last year and it was downplayed more than it should have been.

USC, however, now concerns me. It’s basically now a two game season: Louisville and USC.

Louisville is the only one that gives me any pause, and I don't think Freeman lets them play the spoiler role again after last year.
I have a feeling USC is going to struggle with that B1G schedule and the wind will be out of their sails by November. I also don't think LSU is that good this year, that defense is suspect, Jayden Daniels is gone, and Denbrock is gone.

 

[NDLS_USMC]

That's IF Norvell chooses to "end the contract prematurely."

If Norvell is fired, his buyout is $60+ million.

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Louisville is the only one that gives me any pause, and I don't think Freeman lets them play the spoiler role again after last year.
I have a feeling USC is going to struggle with that B1G schedule and the wind will be out of their sails by November. I also don't think LSU is that good this year, that defense is suspect, Jayden Daniels is gone, and Denbrock is gone.

All of this

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Miami has a chance to really be good this yr. Unfortunately, now I have to listen to all my In-laws

No you don’t. Get a divorce.

 

[MrNimbus]

Yikes

I read the thread way too fast and thought it was actually rg3 that said that. And I was thinking, "wow, losing his job really fucked him up"

 

[ulukinatme]

No you don’t. Get a divorce.

 

[LifelongFan]

200 yards for Love, 200 yards for Price.

 

[Bluto]

I will never judge Norvell/FSU based on the game against Georgia. They had over 30 players not dress for that game. This new landscape has created an awful bowl game issue.

Now, the last two games... WOW

They’re kinda symptoms of the same problem. He went all in on the portal and it panned out sort of until it didn’t.

 

[irishff1014]

Fans may want him gone, but they just gave him a 10-year contract in February. His seat is no where close to warm, and FSU doesn't have the money to pay the buyout.

I agree with you that he's not a great coach and got VERY lucky that Jordan Travis turned into a really, really good player. But he's not going anywhere.

The premature extensions continue to burn these teams.

 

[Katzenboyer]

The premature extensions continue to burn these teams.

In the case of Norvell, FSU's hand was forced; Alabama came calling before they turned their sights onto DeBoer.

But some extensions are just insane. Brett Venables got a huge extension this offseason...for what? Having one nice season in OU's last year in the Big 12?

The guy is an OU alum, and they're about to embark on their first season in the SEC. Who the hell is knocking down the door to hire him away from Norman?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I want there to be a case study on the rise and fall of Florida schools. Miami, Florida and FSU all had a dominate run and then fell to levels below mediocre. Its quite impressive.

Miami from 2000-2002 was ridiculous. There is nowhere to go but down from 34 wins in a row and 17 NFL first round draft picks.

I think the biggest factor was probably the assistant coaches of those teams all eventually moving on to head coaching jobs. Bowden had Richt and Amato for a very long time. Once they both left for HC jobs, it fell off hard and fast.

Same can be said for Spurrier and Meyer at UF along with that Miami squad.

 

[irishff1014]

In the case of Norvell, FSU's hand was forced; Alabama came calling before they turned their sights onto DeBoer.

But some extensions are just insane. Brett Venables got a huge extension this offseason...for what? Having one nice season in OU's last year in the Big 12?

The guy is an OU alum, and they're about to embark on their first season in the SEC. Who the hell is knocking down the door to hire him away from Norman?

His record was 39 and 17. To me that good but not a great record. But it isn’t worth the contract.

And you are 100% on Brent.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

In the case of Norvell, FSU's hand was forced; Alabama came calling before they turned their sights onto DeBoer.

But some extensions are just insane. Brett Venables got a huge extension this offseason...for what? Having one nice season in OU's last year in the Big 12?

The guy is an OU alum, and they're about to embark on their first season in the SEC. Who the hell is knocking down the door to hire him away from Norman?

This is a great point. They had a top ten recruiting class didn't they? That's really the only reason I can understand why they'd do it. They went 10-3 and could find out how the other half lives now that they're in the mighty SEC.

I'm amazed that these administrations keep doing it. You're going to be paying for guys long after you've fired them. Something we knew all too well and it doesn't feel like all that long ago either.

 

[Katzenboyer]

This is a great point. They had a top ten recruiting class didn't they? That's really the only reason I can understand why they'd do it. They went 10-3 and could find out how the other half lives now that they're in the mighty SEC.

I'm amazed that these administrations keep doing it. You're going to be paying for guys long after you've fired them. Something we knew all too well and it doesn't feel like all that long ago either.

Athletic directors just can't help themselves. These buyouts keep getting more ridiculous because ADs continue to hand them out like candy.

 

[KMac151993]

It is just a pissing contest by AD's. They all think they are the smartest people alive and are adamant that they made the home run hire.