Nov 5 | Navy

rtrn2glory

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Honest question for your perspective. Do you believe that coachin plays a role in Kizer missing wide open WR's? Is that an attention to detail issue, where the staff isn't pushing him to focus on fundamentals? Or is this just a choke by Kizer?

We called good plays, had wide open WR's and Kizer couldn't hit those passes. If he completes the easy wide open passes, we probably win, I honestly think that's fair to assume.

Kizer is a big time choke. He's been that way since high school. He lost his senior year to a well coached much less talented team in the regional finals.
 

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Honest question for your perspective. Do you believe that coachin plays a role in Kizer missing wide open WR's? Is that an attention to detail issue, where the staff isn't pushing him to focus on fundamentals? Or is this just a choke by Kizer?

We called good plays, had wide open WR's and Kizer couldn't hit those passes. If he completes the easy wide open passes, we probably win, I honestly think that's fair to assume.

I think you have to know your players and put them in the best position to win. Kizer is talented and does some things very well but relying on him to consistently hit passes to win is not the way to play. But, that's who Kelly is and will always be. A pass happy coach even when our talent says otherwise. IMO, he doesn't fit in well with the type of football ND needs to play in order to be elite.
 

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I wonder where we would be if Kelly left after the Alabama game. Bet he wishes he had.
 

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Kizer is a big time choke. He's been that way since high school. He lost his senior year to a well coached much less talented team in the regional finals.

Big time choke? Were you on the moon last football season or did you start becoming a fan in 2016?
 

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I think you have to know your players and put them in the best position to win. Kizer is talented and does some things very well but relying on him to consistently hit passes to win is not the way to play. But, that's who Kelly is and will always be. A pass happy coach even when our talent says otherwise. IMO, he doesn't fit in well with the type of football ND needs to play in order to be elite.

I know what you're saying but I don't know if anybody knows what type of football Notre Dame can play at this point
 

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Big time choke? Were you on the moon last football season or did you start becoming a fan in 2016?

He misses wide open dudes constantly idk how that is not choking welcome to the 2016 season 2015 is over
 

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I know what you're saying but I don't know if anybody knows what type of football Notre Dame can play at this point

At this point in the season, you are what you are. Not like we can change on a dime and be a power running team. That ship sailed long age, much like a Kizer pass to his right.
 

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I like Kizer but he will go the way of Dayne Crist if he comes back next year. I can't stomach watching him regress even further. The end of the season cannot come soon enough.
 
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Kizer has regressed. Sad to see. He just isn't the same. Worse online may have something to do with it. And no fuller.
 

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ND really needs to get Navy into 3rd and longs and either force them to pass or stuff them on 3rd down. Otherwise Navy will have 4-1/4-2's and they won't hesitate to go for it and likely get the yardage to prolong the drive...and clock.

This is the one game where even if it's 4th down i don't get excited because Navy goes for it a lot.

Note: They've gone for it 14 times this year and converted 8 (57%)

...what did i say.

Navy went 4-5 on 4th downs Saturday...one of those 4th downs conversions is the direct result of the final score.

Very sad.
 
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