Nov 28 | Stanford

[BGIF]

RUSHING	ATT	YDS	TD	LG
McCaffrey	12	66	0	27
R. Wright	5	20	0	10
B. Sanders	2	9	0	6
F. Owusu	1	1	0	1
B. Love	1	-2	0	0
K. Hogan	6	-9	0	3

 

[BGIF]

Well done, Wildcats!

 

[Huntr]

Fuck you David Shaw. You just got owned by a coach wearing shorts.

 

[andre784]

How can recruits choose Stanford over us after a double digit loss to freaking Northwestern! Wow..can't believe that game.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

How can recruits choose Stanford over us after a double digit loss to freaking Northwestern! Wow..can't believe that game.

You must have a short memory

 

[Irishbounty28]

McCaffrey is the leading rusher this season 27 yds on 12 carries 2.25 ypa.

He had 66 yds on 12 carries for 5.5 yards per clip.

 

[GoldenDomer]

How can recruits choose Stanford over us after a double digit loss to freaking Northwestern! Wow..can't believe that game.

LOOOOLLLLLLL

 

[andre784]

You must have a short memory

We had a absolutely depleted team. I don't think Stanford has a excuse.

 

[BGIF]

We had a absolutely depleted team. I don't think Stanford has a excuse.

Jet lag!

 

[andre784]

Jet lag!

That's some bs. I'm just saying we had a legit reason for not playing good. Our roster was so thin defensively when we played them.

 

[NCND]

How can recruits choose Stanford over us after a double digit loss to freaking Northwestern! Wow..can't believe that game.

Ummmmm

 

[GowerND11]

Ummmmm

... best to leave it go haha

 

[andre784]

If we beat Stanford the next two times, throw them off the schedule.

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

All apart of the conspiracy to keep ND out of playoffs by weakening schedule strength

 

[BGIF]

If we beat Stanford the next two times, throw them off the schedule.

And bring back who, Syracuse? Connecticut?

Keep SU on the schedule. It's a warm weather trip late in the season every other year and a recruiting opportunity every year. All we have to do is win.

 

[andre784]

All apart of the conspiracy to keep ND out of playoffs by weakening schedule strength

The playoff era is good for the sport, but bad for us since we are independent. They will not think twice about putting us in if we lose a game most likely.

 

[wizards8507]

The playoff era is good for the sport, but bad for us since we are independent. They will not think twice about putting us in if we lose a game most likely.

We can get in with one loss if we otherwise win convincingly. A 12-1 conference champion isn't any better than us if they have games against FCS and directional state schools.

 

[andre784]

And bring back who, Syracuse? Connecticut?

Keep SU on the schedule. It's a warm weather trip late in the season every other year and a recruiting opportunity every year. All we have to do is win.

Michigan is making a lot of sense since they are outrecruiting us. If Shaw can't keep relevant which is likely to happen, we need to replace them with a contender either way. Stanford win won't seem like a lot if they play us and have five losses.

 

[andre784]

We can get in with one loss if we otherwise win convincingly. A 12-1 conference champion isn't any better than us if they have games against FCS and directional state schools.

Judging how we got placed early last year before the decline, it's not a given at all.

 

[NDPhilly]

They don't recruit well enough nor is shaw a good enough coach for them to consistently win 10 games with their roster and schedule.

 

[Dizzyphil]

We can get in with one loss if we otherwise win convincingly. A 12-1 conference champion isn't any better than us if they have games against FCS and directional state schools.

FCS scheduling is the exact argument I had just a while ago with an ignorant Alabama neighbor. They have 4 games out of conference and two of them are FCS. Week FCS at that.

 

[wizards8507]

Judging how we got placed early last year before the decline, it's not a given at all.

I never said it was a given. I just objected to your implication that there's no chance. It's pretty simple. Undefeated, in. Two losses, out. One loss, we'll see.

When the first CFP rankings came out last year, our "signature win" was a loss to Florida State. We were ranked appropriately at the time. But you're right, if there's a chance of getting in with one loss, we can't be struggling against ACC bottom-dwellers. We need convincing wins.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Too much arrogance in this thread. Yes, pitiful showing by Stanford but I still expect them to find a way to put together some good games. And remember we lost to Louisville, Northwestern, Pitt etc. in the past. This wont be a gimme game.

 

[kmoose]

Michigan is making a lot of sense since they are outrecruiting us. If Shaw can't keep relevant which is likely to happen, we need to replace them with a contender either way. Stanford win won't seem like a lot if they play us and have five losses.

Yeah........ any kid from Michigan's parents will have no problem getting to see their kid play in person. Now a kid from the Bay Area?........ It's nice to have a game in California every year. (if you have noticed, we play home and home with both USC and Stanford, and we play @USC in the even numbered years, and @Stanford in the odd numbered years. So we have a game in Cali every year. That's important for recruiting kids who want their family and friends to be able to come to one of their games.

 

[BGIF]

Michigan is making a lot of sense since they are outrecruiting us. If Shaw can't keep relevant which is likely to happen, we need to replace them with a contender either way. Stanford win won't seem like a lot if they play us and have five losses.

Are they outrecruiting us? Because they have have 23 recruits to ND's 14 in early September?

Aside from perhaps Bredeson who had ND third behind WIS, who of UM's other 22 verbals did ND lose to UM?

I see 7 guys off the top of my head from high school's that are not academically attractive to ND Admissions.


Considering the ACC requirement to play 5 conference opponents UM makes no sense unless you live in the midwest and can't deal with your co-workers at the coffee pot on Mondays.

 

[andre784]

I never said it was a given. I just objected to your implication that there's no chance. It's pretty simple. Undefeated, in. Two losses, out. One loss, we'll see.

When the first CFP rankings came out last year, our "signature win" was a loss to Florida State. We were ranked appropriately at the time. But you're right, if there's a chance of getting in with one loss, we can't be struggling against ACC bottom-dwellers. We need convincing wins.

Our signature really was against Michigan. We beat them as badly as you could beat Michigan really. Alabama put a beating on them, but they didn't shut them out like we did. ND was one of the best teams out the gate until injuries...that's probably the only thing stopping us from contending. Our pass rush against USC's oline does scare me a bit though.

 

[wizards8507]

FCS scheduling is the exact argument I had just a while ago with an ignorant Alabama neighbor. They have 4 games out of conference and two of them are FCS. Week FCS at that.

Exactly. FCS wins shouldn't even be included in your win-loss record. It's like you see in soccer when a team like Liverpool plays against the Jamaican national team at MetLife stadium. A 12-1 champion with two FCS wins is really 10-1 and should be evaluated as such.

 

[andre784]

Yeah........ any kid from Michigan's parents will have no problem getting to see their kid play in person. Now a kid from the Bay Area?........ It's nice to have a game in California every year. (if you have noticed, we play home and home with both USC and Stanford, and we play @USC in the even numbered years, and @Stanford in the odd numbered years. So we have a game in Cali every year. That's important for recruiting kids who want their family and friends to be able to come to one of their games.

Us recruiting in California has been a joke. Stanford has little traction if they don't win. In California, it's all USC/UCLA now. If we had been picking up Cali recruits like we have been Texas than it wouldn't be an issue. I don't see longterm success with Stanford's program. Yes, they have gave us tough games. They play their best against us like every other team. They rode the momentum from the Harbaugh years and now they will come back to life.

 

[BGIF]

Exactly. FCS wins shouldn't even be included in your win-loss record. It's like you see in soccer when a team like Liverpool plays against the Jamaican national team at MetLife stadium. A 12-1 champion with two FCS wins is really 10-1 and should be evaluated as such.

As of now all 6 of our opponents victories this season have been over FCS teams.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Exactly. FCS wins shouldn't even be included in your win-loss record. It's like you see in soccer when a team like Liverpool plays against the Jamaican national team at MetLife stadium. A 12-1 champion with two FCS wins is really 10-1 and should be evaluated as such.

Man, I can't tell you how many arguments I have had here in Nashville based on FCS scheduling.... not just Alabama fans - most all SEC team homers. Then after that , we get on the grades to get into schools and JC transfers.

What really made the discussion flare up was the fact that was the leniency many college, sports programs have with misdemeanor crimes and how intolerant ND is.