Notre Dame In The Transfer Portal 2023-2024 (Verified ND Interest Only)

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NDMatt91 said:
ND was the pick for Hartman before he even entered the portal. IIRC, it was the morning of Wake's bowl game where various CFB insiders were saying he was ND bound.
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Portal window is down from 45 to 30 days most of the big stars won’t be still in portal by time bowls happen


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forkbeard3777 said:
It isn't ideal, but it may be the future of college football...just look at your top 3 Heisman candidates:

Jayden Daniels (ASU to LSU)
Bo Nix (Auburn to Oregon)
Michael Penix Jr. (Indiana to Washington)


I can name countless others (Ewers - Ohio State to Texas; Williams - Oklahoma to USC). It's just a sign of the times.
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Well, we don't take undergrad transfers. It's the grad transfer, one-and-done QB cycle that I especially want to avoid.
 
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stlnd01 said:
Yeah we just need one of the top portal QBs, an alpha dog outside WR and a game-wrecking pass rusher. I’m sure no one else has thought of that. Should be easy-peasy.
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I know. Wishful thinking. To get all that we would be very lucky. Let's get the QB first. Haha
 
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forkbeard3777 said:
It isn't ideal, but it may be the future of college football...just look at your top 3 Heisman candidates:

Jayden Daniels (ASU to LSU)
Bo Nix (Auburn to Oregon)
Michael Penix Jr. (Indiana to Washington)


I can name countless others (Ewers - Ohio State to Texas; Williams - Oklahoma to USC). It's just a sign of the times.
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Will we ever get into guys like that, or just grad transfers?


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NDMatt91 said:
My guess is 2024 will be the last year for a while. All of these transfers have been necessary due to the bad QB recruiting from Rees and BK.
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I've heard this being said multiple times, but it doesn't really make sense.
With a transfer QB, that makes 4 on the roster. After next year, the transfer will leave along with most likely whoever loses the competition between Angeli and Minchey, which takes you back down to 3 QBs with Deuce. If CJ wins the job, it's possible that both Angeli and Minchey leave.
MF has said he wants 4 QB's on the roster... Which means another transfer in 2025 and if you are bringing someone in, you might as well aim for a grad transfer than can actually compete to be a starter.
 
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BoredIrish said:
I've heard this being said multiple times, but it doesn't really make sense.
With a transfer QB, that makes 4 on the roster. After next year, the transfer will leave along with most likely whoever loses the competition between Angeli and Minchey, which takes you back down to 3 QBs with Deuce. If CJ wins the job, it's possible that both Angeli and Minchey leave.
MF has said he wants 4 QB's on the roster... Which means another transfer in 2025 and if you are bringing someone in, you might as well aim for a grad transfer than can actually compete to be a starter.
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I think the 4 QBs comment was his way of saying he’s taking a transfer without directly telling the three guys that they’re going to ride the bench.
 
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IrishSteelhead said:
Will we ever get into guys like that, or just grad transfers?


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Nix and Daniels were grad transfers. Just read an SI article that said Penix was a grad transfer as well. Ewers and Williams were both true freshman when they transferred so there's a decent chance that they both could've gotten through admissions.
 
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Listening to the II podcast right now and O'Malley said that according to one of his contacts who is a Stanford insider, Stanford will now be allowed to take undergrad transfers.

It's complete BS that ND football isn't allowed to do this unless they're 1 year out of HS or coming from an elite institution like NW (Brandon Joseph). ND Basketball just took a kid from NW who was 2 years out of HS. If Stanford can take undergrad transfers then ND should be able to take pretty much anyone who is in good academic standing.
 
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BoredIrish said:
I've heard this being said multiple times, but it doesn't really make sense.
With a transfer QB, that makes 4 on the roster. After next year, the transfer will leave along with most likely whoever loses the competition between Angeli and Minchey, which takes you back down to 3 QBs with Deuce. If CJ wins the job, it's possible that both Angeli and Minchey leave.
MF has said he wants 4 QB's on the roster... Which means another transfer in 2025 and if you are bringing someone in, you might as well aim for a grad transfer than can actually compete to be a starter.
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Funny how that works
 
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ThePiombino said:
Didn't the basketball team just admit guys like that?

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They took a kid from NW who was 2 years out of HS. ND football should be able to do that as opposed to guys like Brandon Joseph who are 3 years out of HS and are a semester away from getting their degree.

I just want to know what the rules are. Is ND only about to take non-grad transfers who are more than 1 year out of HS from other elite institutions like NW, Stanford, Vandy, and Duke? If that's the case then Freeman needs to hire someone who will watch every game those schools play so they can identify the good undergrad players and then tamper with them and get them to hit the portal. Pretty much every school tampers, so it's not a big deal.
 
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NDMatt91 said:
Nix and Daniels were grad transfers. Just read an SI article that said Penix was a grad transfer as well. Ewers and Williams were both true freshman when they transferred so there's a decent chance that they both could've gotten through admissions.
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Don't forget about two of the most successful college grad transfer QBs - Joe Burrow (From OSU to LSU and Heisman) and Jalen Hurts (from AL to OK)
 
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NDWarrior said:
Don't forget about two of the most successful college grad transfer QBs - Joe Burrow (From OSU to LSU and Heisman) and Jalen Hurts (from AL to OK)
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Oh sheet and Baker Mayfield (Texas Tech to OK) and Kyler Murray (TAM to OK)
 
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NDWarrior said:
Don't forget about two of the most successful college grad transfer QBs - Joe Burrow (From OSU to LSU and Heisman) and Jalen Hurts (from AL to OK)
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Russell Wilson too, the OG grad transfer superstar


I’m sure there’s more, but the furthest back stud QB I can think of is Troy Aikman from OU to UCLA

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After seeing Hartman digress this year, along with the lack of WR depth on our roster, and one of the worst OCs in the game, why in the hell would any top QB in the portal even consider us?

And yes, I know Hartman made a good bit of NIL money through Notre Dame, but so did other QBs... ON3 has Sam as the 15th highest NIL paid QB. Just pointing that out as NIL can't be the only reason to come here...
 
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jpachuta33 said:
And yes, I know Hartman made a good bit of NIL money through Notre Dame, but so did other QBs... ON3 has Sam as the 13th highest NIL paid QB. Just pointing that out as NIL can't be the only reason to come here...
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Money. If ND can outbid Auburn and Florida that shows that ND can go toe-to-toe with the majority of teams in the country when it comes to dropping bags for grad transfers.

Money talks. Last year Miami and Oklahoma were mediocre football teams and they got several players (both out of HS and in the portal) that they had no business getting, given their on-field performance. But they have very good NIL programs and bought players.
 
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jpachuta33 said:
After seeing Hartman digress this year, along with the lack of WR depth on our roster, and one of the worst OCs in the game, why in the hell would any top QB in the portal even consider us?

And yes, I know Hartman made a good bit of NIL money through Notre Dame, but so did other QBs... ON3 has Sam as the 13th highest NIL paid QB. Just pointing that out as NIL can't be the only reason to come here...
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We watch every game and follow the team. Some of these items aren’t going to be as visible to someone who played on Saturdays instead of watched.

They might only see:

9-3 ranked team
39.1 ppg (8th overall)
Likable HC that wooed him during a visit
Last transfer QB loved his year on campus


I think it reasonable to assume that not every transfer is going to take every single nuance and factor into consideration and only look at the surface level, which isn’t as ugly as we think it is


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IrishSteelhead said:
We watch every game and follow the team. Some of these items aren’t going to be as visible to someone who played on Saturdays instead of watched.

They might only see:

9-3 ranked team
39.1 ppg (8th overall)
Likable HC that wooed him during a visit
Last transfer QB loved his year on campus


I think it reasonable to assume that not every transfer is going to take every single nuance and factor into consideration and only look at the surface level, which isn’t as ugly as we think it is


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Maybe... but other schools who are recruiting that same QB will make him well aware of the issues that we have as a program right now...

We have had only two 1,000 yard wide receivers since 2015... that is something that would definitely get brought up.
 
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