Norm Chow

[HereComeTheIrish]

back to $C as OC per ESPNews-Shelly Smith.

 

[vernfootball1]

this isnt good

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

you guys can laugh all you want but i'm saying within 2 years or less it's back to same old same ol for the trojans

 

[jason_h537]

you guys can laugh all you want but i'm saying within 2 years or less it's back to same old same ol for the trojans

Kiffin is a joke, his staff is not. This sucks

 

[vernfootball1]

you guys can laugh all you want but i'm saying within 2 years or less it's back to same old same ol for the trojans

I thought the trojans were screwed until i saw orgeron monty and chow, so i think they might not miss a beat, but i hope kelly shows them whats up, kiffins staff so far is as good as it gets

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

you guys can laugh all you want but i'm saying within 2 years or less it's back to same old same ol for the trojans

Who's laughing???? His staff is officially killer AGAIN!!!

 

[NDinL.A.]

The chow hiring officially sucks for ND. C'mon sanctions...

 

[SoJerseyIrish]

Get control guys........we went from laughing about Carroll leaving to crying b/c Kiffin is coming back......Kiffin is not Pete Carroll and the sanctions are coming........RELAX.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

1) guys on other threads and other boards think USC hiring kiffin is a joke.

2) sanctions? if they are anything like the basketball ones, next to nothing will happen. forefeit games from 2005? basketball didn't lose ONE scholarship for that garbage. probation? that is a JOKE. only serious implications kiffin would face is if ncaa took away scholarships.

 

[condoms SUCk]

lets be honest Kiffin will screw this up, relax folks.

 

[WaveDomer]

So you have a program that is under investigation for various misdeeds. The coach leaves, possilby because of the pending consequences of those misdeeds. What do you do? Go hire a guy who was probably in the mix with those misdeeds and had several more in his first year as a HC in the NCAA. Brilliant.

 

[connor_in]

Seems Chow is not official yet:

Lane Kiffin to leave Tennessee Volunteers for USC Trojans job - ESPN Los Angeles

That doesn't mean its not being worked on, just not official

 

[ACamp1900]

So you have a program that is under investigation for various misdeeds. The coach leaves, possilby because of the pending consequences of those misdeeds. What do you do? Go hire a guy who was probably in the mix with those misdeeds and had several more in his first year as a HC in the NCAA. Brilliant.

yeah, no kidding, if this does not SCREAM lack of institutional control on top of everything they are probably going to get hit with I don't know what it will take...

 

[GOLDENISTHYTATE]

Carroll was a winner from the get-go (minus one average season in the first one) and he inherited a program that was in shambles. This cupboard is bare but I don't see Kiffin as the guy to right their ship.Norm doesn't scare me as much as he did over five years ago (SeeLane Kiffin thread for explanation). Monte scares me but thats about it.

I would be far more terrified right now if Jeff Fisher, Whittingham, or Petersen were announced as the head coach.

 

[jason_h537]

The rumor is now that Chow will not join the USC staff

 

[DaLastFarleyite]

I don't think Chow ends up at SC either. He left SC under less than amiable terms, which was attributed mainly to getting crossways with Carroll, you have to remember that Kiffin got his job. That can't sit too well with Chow.

If the NCAA doesn't hammer SC for violations, then I think that Kiffin has a better than 50:50 chance of being very successful in LA. The coaches he's lined up are familar with SC and good recruiters (particularly in Cali). His biggest challenge will be to stay out of the way of his assistants (he should take a week long seminar from Bobby Bowden on how you go about it).

As it relates to the NCAA investigation, there has been a lot written about how the NCAA wants to obtain some evidence via the civil court case involving Reggie Bush and the marketing company he allegedly received benefits from. This is because they have been stonewalled going down other avenues. Also, they only get one shot in front of the infractions committee, which will be sure to be populated by both friends and foes. In other words, they better get it right the first time. If the evidence presented is damning, it will be interesting to see if the NCAA punishes SC, as it has punished lower profile programs. Based on the hearsay, I would give 'em the death penalty (this would based on not only the violations themselves, but also the fact that SC would willingly hire two of the original culprits, i.e., Orgeron and Kiffin). Fair warning to those who willingly flout rules. If that were to happen Kiffen etal, would have to sit on their thumbs for two years and then start from scratch. I also wouldn't mind that if the NCAA later finds that Tennessee has a "pattern of violations" resulting from negligent or intentional disregard of the rules by Orgeron and Kiffin that they then ban any NCAA institution from hiring them ala Calvin Sampson.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Just heard on Outside the Line that he is not going to USC!

Kiffin will struggle even more now.

 

[Colts baby!]

I am so happy that Chow will not be going to SC. At least he has the brains to recognize that SC is going to be going down the tube.

 

[Colts baby!]

I'm so glad Chow is smart enough to stay away from the mess that will be SC when the NCAA gets through with them.

 

[Riddickulous]

Thank God. The Ghost of Rockne smiles upon us this day.

 

[KajuAZ]

The rumor is now that Chow will not join the USC staff

Chow is staying at UCLA......

Article: Offensive coordinator Norm Chow will remain at UCLA Bruins, won't return to USC Trojans - ESPN Los Angeles

Boy people on here were freakin out about chow going to SC. People just need to relax before all the info comes out. Besides just because Chow's Offense worked with Reggie & Matt & company doesn't mean it would've worked with this class........

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Chow is staying at UCLA......

Article: Offensive coordinator Norm Chow will remain at UCLA Bruins, won't return to USC Trojans - ESPN Los Angeles

Boy people on here were freakin out about chow going to SC. People just need to relax before all the info comes out. Besides just because Chow's Offense worked with Reggie & Matt & company doesn't mean it would've worked with this class........

Well, thank God we've got you here to do it for us.... Shew.....What a relief.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Thank God. The Ghost of Rockne smiles upon us this day.

Fact.

 

[jason_h537]

whooo. maybe Kelly should give him a call? just a thought

 

[BGIF]

whooo. maybe Kelly should give him a call? just a thought

Kelly's already announced a full complement of coaches. Kelly's offensive staff is built around Kelly's system. Hiring Chow would be counterproductive.

 

[WaveDomer]

Kelly's already announced a full complement of coaches. Kelly's offensive staff is built around Kelly's system. Hiring Chow would be counterproductive.

It would jerk USC and USC fans around. That's productive enough.

 

[BGIF]

It would jerk USC and USC fans around. That's productive enough.

And rip your own staff apart.

Which one of the newly announced coaches would you fire?

 

[Catsudon]

Chow is big into spread offense isn't he? when they ran that system in BYU?

 

[WaveDomer]

And rip your own staff apart.

Which one of the newly announced coaches would you fire?

I think this was originally suggested as a joke. Which is how I took it.

 

[TDHeysus]

Kelly's already announced a full complement of coaches. Kelly's offensive staff is built around Kelly's system. Hiring Chow would be counterproductive.

it would be disruptive because of the newly announced staff...but its win now or go home.




If he got Chow and it failed, it would be counter-productive.

If he got Chow and it was successful, it would be strategic, shrewed.