NHL Thread

[Jiggafini19Deux]

You know the Chicago Blackhawks are going to have a great year when you hear Patrick Kane ask Seth Jones "what the f*ck are you doing?" on live TV.

 

[POTUS2017]

Stars 1-0 baby!

 

[calvegas04]

Golden Knights yes

 

[ACamp1900]

Have to figure this is it for the big three,… hopefully they can get out the first round and make one last run

 

[ACamp1900]

Brah,… Henrique of the Ducks just scored a legit GREAT goal on ESPN. I saw it live and even before he scored I jumped out my seat

 

[ACamp1900]

love watching the Stars,… Robertson is on fire right now! My family especially love the kid,… a so cal kid who is half Scottish and half Filipino? A ‘Scotapino’ as we call our kids??? Pretty cool

 

[ACamp1900]

 

[ACamp1900]

He just scored again!!!!

 

[KPENN]

This is the least into hockey I’ve ever been. The Flyers have sucked all my passion away

 

[ACamp1900]

This is the least into hockey I’ve ever been. The Flyers have sucked all my passion away

That sucks,… a buddy from work is from Philly and we have fun. We are actually going to this Philly steak place tomorrow that a fellow Philly guy opened up,… it’s super good but there’s a nasty ass painting of gritty on the walls

 

[ACamp1900]

And there’s the hat trick!!!

 

[ACamp1900]

lol,... damn:

 

[NorthDakota]

lol that Flyers guy sure made the hockey journos mad.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

lol that Flyers guy sure made the hockey journos mad.

It's so dumb. Good for Provo, standing up for what HE believes in. Life isn't a once size fits all deal. If some don't like what he did, don't cheer for him, but he didn't do anything wrong. I think Torts had a great reply to it all.

 

[ACamp1900]

Regardless of one’s feelings some of the takes are a bit dumb,… I’ve seen a lot of calls to have him scratched from the lineup until he wears it. You serious, take one of your best players out of the lineup for this??? Ok

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Regardless of one’s feelings some of the takes are a bit dumb,… I’ve seen a lot of calls to have him scratched from the lineup until he wears it. You serious, take one of your best players out of the lineup for this??? Ok

NHL still has the whole "Gotcha" thing going on, trying to stay relevant and "hip" with the new way of thinking. I recently read something (can't find it) but had to do with the NHL trying to go/be full Woke. Like NHL execs came out and said we want to go full woke. I really wish I could find it.

 

[KPENN]

Regardless of one’s feelings some of the takes are a bit dumb,… I’ve seen a lot of calls to have him scratched from the lineup until he wears it. You serious, take one of your best players out of the lineup for this??? Ok

Scratching him would be a net positive at this point. He’s just not very good lol

 

[condoms SUCk]

NHL still has the whole "Gotcha" thing going on, trying to stay relevant and "hip" with the new way of thinking. I recently read something (can't find it) but had to do with the NHL trying to go/be full Woke. Like NHL execs came out and said we want to go full woke. I really wish I could find it.

NASCAR did the same thing didn't they?

 

[StPaul_Irish]

NASCAR did the same thing didn't they?

I think that is right, I am more of an F1 guy, but it does ring a bell. Talk about not being able to read a room lol

 

[ACamp1900]

I’d love to see their internal data that drove these decisions. It’s hard to imagine they have data that shows the gain from grabbing ‘woke’, non hockey fans is greater than the net loss from old school hardcores… but I’m assuming. They must have data saying the opposite

 

[Sea Turtle]

 

[StPaul_Irish]

I’d love to see their internal data that drove these decisions. It’s hard to imagine they have data that shows the gain from grabbing ‘woke’, non hockey fans is greater than the net loss from old school hardcores… but I’m assuming. They must have data saying the opposite

No kidding. I really don't understand that whole "hockey is for everyone" movement. In my opinion it always has, problem has been the arms race between Bauer/CCM driving up the cost on everything. Hockey itself isn't the problem, it the price wars. I just can't ever remember a team/person I played with that wasn't accepting of someone based on race/creed ect. If you can play, you can play.

Just like any sport, you will get some AHole who goes overboard with a slur or something, but hockey has one of the biggest/best/funniest trash talk (chrips) list. Some of the stuff you hear on the ice between players is down right hilarious and sometimes crude lol. It has been my experience that EVERYONE gets chirped about something, and it almost NEVER has something to do with race/orientation ect.

 

[TorontoGold]

Maybe the "old school hardcores" who can't accept a once a night event should reevaluate their beliefs if they can't handle a pregame event that happens once a year, idk tho I'm not offended at a rainbow flag lmao. Hockey is an elitist regional sport, with the dumbest players (most barely get through high school). Kind of "well what did you expect"



The hockey media would have more credibility if they were more critical of Ovechkin being pals with Putin.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Maybe the "old school hardcores" who can't accept a once a night event should reevaluate their beliefs if they can't handle a pregame event that happens once a year, idk tho I'm not offended at a rainbow flag lmao. Hockey is an elitist regional sport, with the dumbest players (most barely get through high school). Kind of "well what did you expect"



The hockey media would have more credibility if they were more critical of Ovechkin being pals with Putin.

My college team was All academic, had multiple academic all Americans (all 4 years), had the highest GPA of any of the major sports teams. One of our "dumb kids" happened to be on that list and went on to win a cup with LA and ANA.

Hockey teams in general have one of the highest GPA's of the sports teams. Canadian Major JR, USHL/NAHL players are required to go to school if underaged, and required to uphold a standard. Not a good take based in any factual information.

I know you live under a semi communist dictator in JT, but I was hoping you would be "smart" enough to believe in someone's choice.
You don't have to agree with it or like it, but you should at least respect someone's right to choose.

 

[TorontoGold]

My college team was All academic, had multiple academic all Americans (all 4 years), had the highest GPA of any of the major sports teams. One of our "dumb kids" happened to be on that list and went on to win a cup with LA and ANA.

Hockey teams in general have one of the highest GPA's of the sports teams. Canadian Major JR, USHL/NAHL players are required to go to school if underaged, and required to uphold a standard. Not a good take based in any factual information.

I know you live under a semi communist dictator in JT, but I was hoping you would be "smart" enough to believe in someone's choice.
You don't have to agree with it or like it, but you should at least respect someone's right to choose.

Yes I have no doubt your college team was intelligent. The NHL draft eligible age is set in a way that many of the high end players who actually make it don't have a year of post-high school education. Which is the players that go on to have a significant platform within the NHL are often uneducated.

I appreciate you taking the time to see where I live and then explaining to me about CHL players as if I wouldn't know lol. The school they are required to go to is......high school education. The point is, the players with significant platforms aren't going to be educated and their social/cultural experiences are limited to who they have played hockey with. Hockey is an elitist sport, there's no way around that, if you spend your entire life around a homogenous group of people you likely aren't going to be experienced with people with different backgrounds than yours.

He was legally required to participate in a Flyers community event as part of his contract. Without even getting in to the morality of it all, he signed the contract and he should follow it. He can make a protest of the event, but we can call him a giant piss baby who picks and chooses which part of his religion he wants to hide behind. Not sure the Russian Orthodox church would be happy about an unmarried guy living with his partner.

 

[ACamp1900]

Ivan Provorov jerseys sell out days after NHL player refuses to wear LGBT pride jersey

Jerseys for Philadelphia Flyers defenseman Ivan Provorov have sold out online days after the 26-year-old refused to wear a gay pride-themed jersey for

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Yes I have no doubt your college team was intelligent. The NHL draft eligible age is set in a way that many of the high end players who actually make it don't have a year of post-high school education. Which is the players that go on to have a significant platform within the NHL are often uneducated.

I appreciate you taking the time to see where I live and then explaining to me about CHL players as if I wouldn't know lol. The school they are required to go to is......high school education. The point is, the players with significant platforms aren't going to be educated and their social/cultural experiences are limited to who they have played hockey with. Hockey is an elitist sport, there's no way around that, if you spend your entire life around a homogenous group of people you likely aren't going to be experienced with people with different backgrounds than yours.

He was legally required to participate in a Flyers community event as part of his contract. Without even getting in to the morality of it all, he signed the contract and he should follow it. He can make a protest of the event, but we can call him a giant piss baby who picks and chooses which part of his religion he wants to hide behind. Not sure the Russian Orthodox church would be happy about an unmarried guy living with his partner.

Oh, tell me more about his contract.

Also, as a country that prides it's self on the right to protest and free speech, I think he is doing just that. Sorry it doesn't fit peoples sensitive narrative. Get over it, be an adult, you don't have to like it, but you can also mind your own business. Trust me, you will be happier for it.

Also, as part of the Canadian JR hockey players CHL contract, every year they play in the league they get a year of higher education paid for by the league in their home state or Provence. Many NHL players get educations far beyond HS on their own. Hockey players are widely regarded as some of the most educated and well spoken of athletes. EX: Steve Yzerman, the GM of Tampa and now the Wings. He's an "uneducated" hockey player by your standards, but he's making a helluva living running a major sports franchise.

 

[NorthDakota]

Yes I have no doubt your college team was intelligent. The NHL draft eligible age is set in a way that many of the high end players who actually make it don't have a year of post-high school education. Which is the players that go on to have a significant platform within the NHL are often uneducated.

I appreciate you taking the time to see where I live and then explaining to me about CHL players as if I wouldn't know lol. The school they are required to go to is......high school education. The point is, the players with significant platforms aren't going to be educated and their social/cultural experiences are limited to who they have played hockey with. Hockey is an elitist sport, there's no way around that, if you spend your entire life around a homogenous group of people you likely aren't going to be experienced with people with different backgrounds than yours.

He was legally required to participate in a Flyers community event as part of his contract. Without even getting in to the morality of it all, he signed the contract and he should follow it. He can make a protest of the event, but we can call him a giant piss baby who picks and chooses which part of his religion he wants to hide behind. Not sure the Russian Orthodox church would be happy about an unmarried guy living with his partner.

He wasn't legally required to participate. I've seen the contract clause people are citing.

It has a "reasonable" standard in it. And a number of people approaching zero would say its reasonable to require a hockey player to participate in a Gay Pride event, particularly once he cites religious objections.

Make him sign autographs? Sure. Do a Meet and Greet. Sure. Require him to endorse the LGBTQIA+ stuff? No.

It was fun to see the hockey journos step in it on social media though.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Yes I have no doubt your college team was intelligent. The NHL draft eligible age is set in a way that many of the high end players who actually make it don't have a year of post-high school education. Which is the players that go on to have a significant platform within the NHL are often uneducated.

I appreciate you taking the time to see where I live and then explaining to me about CHL players as if I wouldn't know lol. The school they are required to go to is......high school education. The point is, the players with significant platforms aren't going to be educated and their social/cultural experiences are limited to who they have played hockey with. Hockey is an elitist sport, there's no way around that, if you spend your entire life around a homogenous group of people you likely aren't going to be experienced with people with different backgrounds than yours.

He was legally required to participate in a Flyers community event as part of his contract. Without even getting in to the morality of it all, he signed the contract and he should follow it. He can make a protest of the event, but we can call him a giant piss baby who picks and chooses which part of his religion he wants to hide behind. Not sure the Russian Orthodox church would be happy about an unmarried guy living with his partner.

Maybe they're sleeping in different beds?

 

[TorontoGold]

Oh, tell me more about his contract.

Also, as a country that prides it's self on the right to protest and free speech, I think he is doing just that. Sorry it doesn't fit peoples sensitive narrative. Get over it, be an adult, you don't have to like it, but you can also mind your own business. Trust me, you will be happier for it.

Also, as part of the Canadian JR hockey players CHL contract, every year they play in the league they get a year of higher education paid for by the league in their home state or Provence. Many NHL players get educations far beyond HS on their own. Hockey players are widely regarded as some of the most educated and well spoken of athletes. EX: Steve Yzerman, the GM of Tampa and now the Wings. He's an "uneducated" hockey player by your standards, but he's making a helluva living running a major sports franchise.

He's a public figure lmao so anything he does in the public sphere will be commented on. Take a look at this thread, let me know the number of people that are upset at people in the media being upset at him vs number of people shitting on him.

Bud, I literally grew up in a hockey town and played with a couple guys who've gone on to play in the league. You don't need to explain to me how the CHL works. I think I got a decent handle on that. A number of the guys on my floor in residence when I was at school were former CHL players who were taking advantage of the education benefit. The point is - if you make it to the NHL you are not going to university when you're 18-22. This is anecdotal - but Kyle Hamilton is going back to school to complete his degree, how many top end hockey players are even getting a semester of university done in their offseason? Zero.

Steve Yzerman is a great example of nepotism in hockey, the guy has only ever played hockey without doing any sort of additional education. He is successful but that doesn't mean he is educated.

Hockey players being widely regarded as the most educated and well spoken is pretty jokes. The guys who you see as "analysts" that are former hockey players are significantly worse than any former NFL/NBA players, the guys who've only played a sport and have gotten their brains bashed in for the majority of their life would not be considered well spoken or educated by any serious person.

I love hockey, my favorite sport, but it doesn't cloud me in thinking they are intellectually superior to other athletes who actually attend post secondary schooling.

He wasn't legally required to participate. I've seen the contract clause people are citing.

It has a "reasonable" standard in it. And a number of people approaching zero would say its reasonable to require a hockey player to participate in a Gay Pride event, particularly once he cites religious objections.

Make him sign autographs? Sure. Do a Meet and Greet. Sure. Require him to endorse the LGBTQIA+ stuff? No.

It was fun to see the hockey journos step in it on social media though.

These events have gone off without a hitch for a number of years, I'm sure a number of athletes have beliefs that line up with Provo but they still go on with it. He's not endorsing shit, he's just wearing a jersey for a warmup and the team auctions it off. If he was a captain maybe there is an argument for endorsing it.

Maybe they're sleeping in different beds?

Yeah 100%, that is a very believable take.