NFL Fantasy Football Keeper 2018

[wizards8507]

DRAFT DATE:
August 28

DRAFT TIME:
9:00 PM EDT

DRAFT FEE:
$50 - pay to gkIrish via Paypal or Venmo

wizards8507 (The Worldwide Leader) - Confirmed - PAID
IrishLion (Zeke Squad) - Confirmed - PAID
irish o'phile (O'Phile's Defilers) - Confirmed
gkIrish (JiveTurkeys) - Confirmed - PAID
Gattaca (GATTACA) - Confirmed
Junkhead (Junkhead) - Confirmed - PAID
Ironman8 (Jaqen H'gar) - Confirmed - PAID
bkess (Go Luck Yourself) - Confirmed - PAID
Rhode Irish (#FreeBrady) - Confirmed - PAID
kaneyoufeelit (Diggs Out for Harambe) - Confirmed - PAID
Shakedown (ShakeDown's Minions) - Confirmed - PAID
Armyirish47 (Shanahan's Shamrocks) - Confirmed - PAID

RULES:
- Cannot keep a player taken in the first, second, or third round of last year's draft.

- You can keep a maximum of 3 players, there is no minimum.

- Each kept player cost is equal to the round they were drafted in last year -1.

- There are no limits to the amount of seasons a player can be kept for, until said player would be the equivalent of a 2nd round pick.

- Any undrafted free agent will cost a 15th round pick. If you wish to keep multiple UFA's you will give up your next highest pick. So if you want to keep two undrafted players that will cost you your 15th and 14th round selections. If you had already traded away your 14th round selection then those two players would cost you your 15th and 13th round picks, etc.

- Any player traded for before the keeper deadline will retain their original selection value.

- Players that were drafted last year, dropped, and acquired as free agents maintain their original draft value.

 

[IrishLion]

I am in

 

[wizards8507]

 

[Armyirish47]

It's on like Donkey Kong.

 

[GATTACA!]

Ugh I'm back.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

 

[bkess8]

In

 

[IrishLion]

We need the old league renewed. I can't even see who might be a keeper from my terrible, shitty roster from last year.

 

[irish o'phile]

I will participate in the fantasy football league.

 

[GATTACA!]

I'm just going to renew the league with all the old GM's brought back. We can make changes later on as we go.

 

[gkIrish]

In. PM me if you need my Venmo or PayPal info.

 

[ShakeDown]

I’m in.

 

[Junkhead]

I'm in. $50 down the drain!

 

[wizards8507]

If a mod is on, add Junk as confirmed in the OP. Otherwise I'll do it tomorrow.

 

[wizards8507]

These are the keeper rules currently in effect:

I think we revisited and revised the UFA rules last year. Our draft is 15 rounds. It doesn't make any sense that keeping a 15th rounder would cost you a 14th but keeping an undrafted free agent would cost you a 10th.

 

[gkIrish]

I think we revisited and revised the UFA rules last year. Our draft is 12 rounds. It doesn't make any sense that keeping a 12th rounder would cost you an 11th but keeping an undrafted free agent would cost you a 10th.

When did the draft get cut down to 12? Not sure how that makes sense. It was at least 15 rounds last year.

 

[wizards8507]

When did the draft get cut down to 12? Not sure how that makes sense. It was at least 15 rounds last year.

You're right, my bad. My comment still holds.

 

[gkIrish]

You're right, my bad. My comment still holds.

I see that we discussed a keeper penalty cutting the player's draft round in half but doesn't seem like we ever had a vote on it. I am cool with it because it would essentially create a 3 year cap.

 

[wizards8507]

I'd vote to leave the rules as-is. I don't think it's fair to someone who picked up a player late last year with the intention of keeping him to change the rules on what that player will now cost.

 

[gkIrish]

I'd vote to leave the rules as-is. I don't think it's fair to someone who picked up a player late last year with the intention of keeping him to change the rules on what that player will now cost.

You shouldn't be able to keep a player for 7 seasons just because you happened to have a high waiver in whatever week some guy finally got his chance to start. We need to at a minimum use FAAB for the waiver wire if we are going to allow that.

 

[wizards8507]

You shouldn't be able to keep a player for 7 seasons just because you happened to have a high waiver in whatever week some guy finally got his chance to start.

A lot of people made aggressive draft picks on those types of players though, it wasn't just waiver luck. Joe Mixon didn't perform like a 4th rounder last year, but it's reasonable that someone may have taken him them with the expectation that he'd be worth a 3rd or better this year.

 

[ShakeDown]

You shouldn't be able to keep a player for 7 seasons just because you happened to have a high waiver in whatever week some guy finally got his chance to start. We need to at a minimum use FAAB for the waiver wire if we are going to allow that.

Yesssss

 

[gkIrish]

A lot of people made aggressive draft picks on those types of players though, it wasn't just waiver luck. Joe Mixon didn't perform like a 4th rounder last year, but it's reasonable that someone may have taken him them with the expectation that he'd be worth a 3rd or better this year.

Your example isn't what I'm concerned about. Joe Mixon can't be kept past this year under the current rules because he would be the equivalent of a second round pick in 2019.

I am concerned about whoever has Alvin Kamara as an undrafted free agent in the 10th round. I don't see why they should be able to keep him for the next 7 years just because they happened to have the #1 waiver in whatever week he was a hot pickup. If you made an aggressive pick of Joe Mixon you knew you would only have him in 2018 so there is no impact.

 

[wizards8507]

Your example isn't what I'm concerned about. Joe Mixon can't be kept past this year under the current rules because he would be the equivalent of a second round pick in 2019.

I am concerned about whoever has Alvin Kamara as an undrafted free agent in the 10th round. I don't see why they should be able to keep him for the next 7 years just because they happened to have the #1 waiver in whatever week he was a hot pickup. If you made an aggressive pick of Joe Mixon you knew you would only have him in 2018 so there is no impact.

The waiver order isn't randomly generated each week, you know that right?

Too bad for the other managers in your situation. Literally everybody had a chance to get any undrafted free agent by, you know, actually drafting them in the first place. Nobody has the right to bitch about Alvin Kamara because everybody passed on him in the draft. And Joe Mixon was just an example... I picked him with the last pick in the third round rather than the first pick in the fourth round like an idiot, so I should be sitting on a gold mine. But like I said... I was an idiot.

Regardless of what's better or worse, you can't make rule changes to a keeper league in the middle of the league. People make decisions based on the rules that are in place at the time.

 

[gkIrish]

The waiver order isn't randomly generated each week, you know that right?

Too bad for the other managers in your situation. Literally everybody had a chance to get any undrafted free agent by, you know, actually drafting them in the first place. Nobody has the right to bitch about Alvin Kamara because everybody passed on him in the draft. And Joe Mixon was just an example... I picked him with the last pick in the third round rather than the first pick in the fourth round like an idiot, so I should be sitting on a gold mine. But like I said... I was an idiot.

Regardless of what's better or worse, you can't make rule changes to a keeper league in the middle of the league. People make decisions based on the rules that are in place at the time.

The person who picks last is randomly #1 on the waiver wire. The point of a snake draft is that the person picking #1 has no overall advantage over the guy picking #12. But for whatever reason the #12 drafter also gets the #1 waiver which is inherently stupid.

My point is that no one gets screwed if we change the rule because Alvin Kamara or whoever is still going to be a keeper for 3ish years. It just won't be 7 years like the current system. There is no trade or draft pick that wouldn't have happened if the penalty were 3 rounds instead of 1. Give me an example if you disagree.

By the way, my keepers are as good as anyones. Jordan Howard round 14, Jimmy G undrafted. Kenyan Drake undrafted, Michael Thomas Round 6 or something. If anything I would get screwed but it's just not fair that I get to keep Jordan Howard for the next 10 years if he happens to start that long.

 

[wizards8507]

The person who picks last is randomly #1 on the waiver wire. The point of a snake draft is that the person picking #1 has no overall advantage over the guy picking #12. But for whatever reason the #12 drafter also gets the #1 waiver which is inherently stupid.

That's only true for the second after the draft ends. Once that person makes a waiver claim, they go to the back of the line and everyone moves up in front of them.

 

[Junkhead]

If a mod is on, add Junk as confirmed in the OP. Otherwise I'll do it tomorrow.

I could've/should've done that myself. I was probably drunk if I wanted in to Fantasy football again....j/k

 

[gkIrish]

That's only true for the second after the draft ends. Once that person makes a waiver claim, they go to the back of the line and everyone moves up in front of them.

Look up FAAB. That's what we should do

 

[wizards8507]

Look up FAAB. That's what we should do.

I understand how FAAB works and I agree that it's a better system. I just don't think it's appropriate to change the rules of a keeper league several seasons in. If I'm outvoted, I'll still be in.

I think the three round penalty option is terrible and defeats the entire purpose of a keeper league in the first place.

 

[IrishLion]

I may institute FAAB for a league I've been running for a while.

We voted last year to change some rules for our second decade (this is year 11), so we are moving from standard scoring to ppr, and from a redraft league to a keeper league.

I had never heard of FAAB, but it sounds like an interesting layer to add when we are already changing other things. Is there software out there that allows for FAAB? I haven't checked Yahoo to see if you can do FAAB via their software.