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I can't get over the fact that the players have quit. What does that say about their opinion of BK? You don't quit on a coach you respect.
 
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Sadly it will be Brian Kelly. This season has been an eye opener for me. This season is worse than 2007 for me because back then I really thought we were one coach away from being a powerhouse again.

Brian Kelly has taught me to lower my expectations. 2012 was a severe outlier and I think our normal ceiling is 7-9 wins. Sadly it is a sign of our program's permanent decline that this is the best we can do. We won't get rid of BK because there are no better options for us. The truly elite coaches will never come here so we'd just be rolling the dice on another BK type coach.

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NJNP is horrid human bieng. As long as he posts here, I'm done.

Btw, this needed a new thread? The othe mouth breathing "fire BK" threads weren't enough? Posters here have become absurd. It's not even worth reading the garbage that fills threads here anymore.

I gave a rare neg rep for this this reason. This thread is simply about rabble-rousing
 
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So in your eyes, Kelly's coaching resume is five years long. Didn't know that was the parameters of your argument. Can't argue with that.

What has he done for me lately? It's year 5. He should be hanging on BCS/New Years bowl wins, 10 win seasons, great recruiting, a team that's improving yearly for the most part. Instead it's a weird 2012 and a bunch of years that Weis had.
 

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What has he done for me lately? It's year 5. He should be hanging on BCS/New Years bowl wins, 10 win seasons, great recruiting, a team that's improving yearly for the most part. Instead it's a weird 2012 and a bunch of years that Weis had.

All you need is one great year at ND and they build a statue of you.
 

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Nuke. Thread.

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BeauBenken

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I'm saying he's no good because what he has done here has been no good for 80% of the time.

No, what you've been saying is that even when he did win 12 games, he doesn't deserve credit for it. Weis NEVER won 12 games. And Kelly's worse seasons are still 2 wins better than Weis' mediocre seasons.
 

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There is no way anyone should want a regime change at this point. It would decimate the recruiting class. While I agree he should look at shaking up the coaching staff and bring Quinn in, there is no way we should want a new head coach in here with the team mostly coming back next year.


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No, what you've been saying is that even when he did win 12 games, he doesn't deserve credit for it. Weis NEVER won 12 games. And Kelly's worse seasons are still 2 wins better than Weis' mediocre seasons.

How many BCS bowls for Weis? Kelly?
 

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We constantly find ways to limp under the bar and then wet ourselves.....are we the cubs of college football?
 
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You picked 7-5 against the toughest schedule in the nation. We went 7-5 against what turned out to be a shit schedule.

Yuuuup. People say to change your predictions based on injuries but not on schedule. We played 2 teams who are anywhere close to above average. We beat Rice, a C-USA team, Michigan who missed a bowl, Cuse who missed a bowl, Purdue, who missed a bowl and lost to IU today, Stanford who went 6-6 and we barely beat them, UNC who went 6-6 and barely beat them, and Navy who will go 6-6 or 7-5. We lost to Northwestern who went 5-7, USC who went 8-4, and Louisville who went 9-3 against an easy schedule.
 

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To be clear, I'm not for a coaching change. But a staff change is necessary. There is no excuse to not have an actual OC next year either.
 
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Weis shouldn't be compared to Kelly or vice a versa. We have a more competent AD now than we did then. I bet Jack could find a better replacement than Weis. Just because it's better than it was, doesn't mean that's our bar.
 

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To be clear, I'm not for a coaching change. But a staff change is necessary. There is no excuse to not have an actual OC next year either.

Everybody is game in my opinion, except for Alford. Defensively, all of them need to be seriously looked at to include BVG.
 

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Yuuuup. People say to change your predictions based on injuries but not on schedule. We played 2 teams who are anywhere close to above average. We beat Rice, a C-USA team, Michigan who missed a bowl, Cuse who missed a bowl, Purdue, who missed a bowl and lost to IU today, Stanford who went 6-6 and we barely beat them, UNC who went 6-6 and barely beat them, and Navy who will go 6-6 or 7-5. We lost to Northwestern who went 5-7, USC who went 8-4, and Louisville who went 9-3 against an easy schedule.

Here's your first decent argument and somebody else had to say it first.
 
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Weis shouldn't be compared to Kelly or vice a versa. We have a more competent AD now than we did then. I bet Jack could find a better replacement than Weis. Just because it's better than it was, doesn't mean that's our bar.

Yeah "at least he's not Weis" isn't a good enough excuse. Kelly did his job making us a little better than Weis and now we need someone to make us better than Kelly.
 
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Let's just ignore the defense for now.

What do you blame for the offensive pants shitting all year long? Do you blame Golson? Kelly? Cause this offense was set for 35+ a game pre-season and that's before we found out the schedule was a joke.
 

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Everybody is game in my opinion, except for Alford. Defensively, all of them need to be seriously looked at to include BVG.

I'm not in the fire BVG crowd, yet. Between the suspension and about every starter being lost to injury, I'll give him a pass. But the seat has to be hot.
 

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Yeah "at least he's not Weis" isn't a good enough excuse. Kelly did his job making us a little better than Weis and now we need someone to make us better than Kelly.

Good luck with that. You're going to wind up with Davie or Willingham 2.0
 
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