Next ND Offensive Coordinator - the search

[Katzenboyer]

Has Jeff Grimes been eliminated?

Has served in OC/OL roles before. Seems like that might be a good place to turn?

 

[ColinKSU]

I’m not freaking out yet. There are a lot of great minds out there that would love to work with our O talent. The O line coach hire is just as important for this program too.

For me, this situation is as low as it can go. We’re in the mud. And it really isn’t about Ludwig. There are a lot of good OCs out there and they could stumble into one on the cheap.

We’re in the mud because of how ND handled this and what they said with their chest about what they’re willing to do to back Marcus. They said “We’re not willing to invest in you to get us to the top, and we don’t care if the CFB world knows it. Maybe it’ll still work out but we don’t actually care and you chumps will keep watching.”

My immediate fear is they actually can dig deeper past the mud and break into Earth’s core by promoting Gerad Parker. That says we give up.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Careful now, you want to take shots I'll get serious and give you the what fer. Thanks for correcting my spelling, I no likey da big werds.

I'm genuinely interested in what you are talking about with regards to Swarbrick and his culpability for child abuse?

Summary: Swarbrick and USA Gymnastics

ndnation.com

 

[ACamp1900]

I’m not freaking out yet. There are a lot of great minds out there that would love to work with our O talent. The O line coach hire is just as important for this program too.

Yeah but am I really interested in moving to South Bend??

 

[notredomer23]

Alright, I am going to throw a new name for OC out there.

Alex Atkins, FSU OL/OC. He currently makes $825K/year entering the second year of a 3 year deal.

Looking at their last few classes, he looks like their best recruiter. I fully expect him to get an interview, an offer, and ultimately a huge raise from FSU

 

[NDMatt91]

FWIW, Driskell said the Ludwig situation is worse than what it looks like. He and Ryan Roberts are doing a Youtube show right now.

 

[Dale]

Is Driskell ever not doing a YouTube show? Should just have a 24 hour feed on him at this point.

 

[Dale]

Not sure this is the reasoning, but I do see a path where Harry hanging it up opens the door for other options that were not available previously. ND was pigeonholed by needing an OC and QB coach. That's no longer the case and there could be more at play here.



That being said, i am all for calling out ND for being cheap.

This makes sense. Yet every talking head says they’ve known about Hiestand since Day 1 while also every list excluded OL coach OC candidates.

There are multiple OCs that you could pursue stylistically similar to Klein and Ludwig, while also allowing you to hire someone like Streeter or maybe a NFL guy to coach QBs. Best of both worlds. Yet that avenue seems nonexistent.

 

[stpeteirish]

Careful now, you want to take shots I'll get serious and give you the what fer. Thanks for correcting my spelling, I no likey da big werds.

I'm genuinely interested in what you are talking about with regards to Swarbrick and his culpability for child abuse?

The law firm he worked for defended people who were involved in abuse of some of the USA Olympic gymnastsin the 1990's. Jack was a big part of the defense team. A far more detailed description of these "charges" has been pinned to the top of "Rock's House (NDN)" for about ten years.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

The law firm he worked for defended people who were involved in abuse of some of the USA Olympic gymnastsin the 1990's. Jack was a big part of the defense team. A far more detailed description of these "charges" has been pinned to the top of "Rock's House (NDN)" for about ten years.

I shared the link above.

 

[NDMatt91]

Again, TIFWIW:

Driskell just said that the people responsible for getting Ludwig's contract to know what the details were got his old contract, which showed a 450K buyout. It wasn't until later that they got the $2.8 Million number. They tried to get Utah to budge to bring the number down, and Utah wouldn't. Another part of the issue was that Jack wasn't high on Andy Ludwig and therefore wasn't in favor of paying the buyout.

 

[WildMan1]

It's always entertaining to watch such small intellects critique someone as brilliant as Swarbrick. Most of you are firmly entrenched in the fuckin hoi polloi, the only difference between you winging children and the rest of us is that we know it.

I'm going to wait until the dust settles before feigning or showing true outrage because it's pointless but I really appreciate the comedy on an otherwise boring day of virtual meetings.

Can one of you do the thing where you explain how you're going to stop caring? or tell me how you won't give no mo monies? Or maybe someone could level it up a notch and do somethin big time that'll change the trajectory of the program? Maybe spark a movement?

omg you’re so cool 😎

It’s a message board King, let us peasants jump to conclusions & bitch & moan at our leisure, won’t you?

I promise we’ll try to keep our future opinions of the highest caliber full of patience, deep research & rich vocabulary.

Once again, we thank you for your heavy hand for without it we would likely be scurrying amongst the other rodents on NDnation.

 

[zbikowski88]

For an academic institution they’re not good with contracts

 

[ColinKSU]

Again, TIFWIW:

Driskell just said that the people responsible for getting Ludwig's contract to know what the details were got his old contract, which showed a 450K buyout. It wasn't until later that they got the $2.8 Million number. They tried to get Utah to budge to bring the number down, and Utah wouldn't. Another part of the issue was that Jack wasn't high on Andy Ludwig and therefore wasn't in favor of paying the buyout.

And I’m over here pissed at myself because I accidentally uploaded the wrong edit of my company’s podcast that no one listens to this morning.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Again, TIFWIW:

Driskell just said that the people responsible for getting Ludwig's contract to know what the details were got his old contract, which showed a 450K buyout. It wasn't until later that they got the $2.8 Million number. They tried to get Utah to budge to bring the number down, and Utah wouldn't. Another part of the issue was that Jack wasn't high on Andy Ludwig and therefore wasn't in favor of paying the buyout.

 

[PigtownIrish]

Again, TIFWIW:

Driskell just said that the people responsible for getting Ludwig's contract to know what the details were got his old contract, which showed a 450K buyout. It wasn't until later that they got the $2.8 Million number. They tried to get Utah to budge to bring the number down, and Utah wouldn't. Another part of the issue was that Jack wasn't high on Andy Ludwig and therefore wasn't in favor of paying the buyout.

So which Swarbrick toady/nepo hire loses their job over this? I'm guessing none.

 

[GATTACA!]

FWIW, Driskell said the Ludwig situation is worse than what it looks like. He and Ryan Roberts are doing a Youtube show right now.

Worse in what way?

 

[PolishDomer]

The fact that the Alumni isn't demanding JS to be fired tells you how uninvolved they are. This shit wouldn't be tolerated at OSU and many other programs. ND isn't committed. That is the hard truth to accept.

As an alumnus, this generalization is BS...im pissed off as hell

 

[Giddyup]

Did Ludwig sign a new contract a few days ago to switch the buyout? Otherwise how do you get an old contract?

 

[Ndaccountant]

Odds that MF and Jack are aligned? I have my doubts.

 

[ColinKSU]

Again, TIFWIW:

Driskell just said that the people responsible for getting Ludwig's contract to know what the details were got his old contract, which showed a 450K buyout. It wasn't until later that they got the $2.8 Million number. They tried to get Utah to budge to bring the number down, and Utah wouldn't. Another part of the issue was that Jack wasn't high on Andy Ludwig and therefore wasn't in favor of paying the buyout.

He also said that Jack didn’t think Ludwig was the right hire, so he didn’t support Marcus and push for the money.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

Again, TIFWIW:

Driskell just said that the people responsible for getting Ludwig's contract to know what the details were got his old contract, which showed a 450K buyout. It wasn't until later that they got the $2.8 Million number. They tried to get Utah to budge to bring the number down, and Utah wouldn't. Another part of the issue was that Jack wasn't high on Andy Ludwig and therefore wasn't in favor of paying the buyout.

If true, I wish I could be as bad at my job as some of these people. Also, how the hell is something as key as the finances of a buyout not cross-checked/validated by multiple parties.

 

[thekid33]

Jack wasn't high on Andy Ludwig and therefore wasn't in favor of paying the buyout.

1. So he prefers this look instead?
2. So he doesn't trust MF?

Notre Dame should be Mercedes and instead they are Haas. Total wankers.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Would love to know why JS wasn't high on Ludwig. Ludwig, by almost everyone's opinion, would've been a homerun hire. What gives?

 

[NDdomer2]

He also said that Jack didn’t think Ludwig was the right hire, so he didn’t support Marcus and push for the money.

if this is true, the right/wrong contract is immaterial.

ultimately it would be not supporting the man you put in charge of the team.

 

[PigtownIrish]

He also said that Jack didn’t think Ludwig was the right hire, so he didn’t support Marcus and push for the money.

Jack, football genius. What gives is it wasn't his idea so he can't take credit for it and therefore does not support. Has any AD anywhere else, who never played a sport in his life, presumed to interfere so much in these decisions?

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

The law firm he worked for defended people who were involved in abuse of some of the USA Olympic gymnastsin the 1990's. Jack was a big part of the defense team. A far more detailed description of these "charges" has been pinned to the top of "Rock's House (NDN)" for about ten years.

Wait a minute, I thought he was perniciously involved in some misbehavior with children. You're saying he's a villain because he worked for a firm who took on defendants they successfully 'defended' against charges only for those same people to be found guilty later on?

This doesn't even register on my radar. I guess anything can be spun but most people do their jobs in the moment unless their clients 'bared their souls' to their lawyers which is. highly unlikely. Psychopaths/predators/sociopaths maintain innocence through everything so the firm intended on representing their clients to the best of their abilities. I'm also grateful that the truth came out and these monsters that were successfully defended, eventually were sentenced (or at least i'm assuming?).

I have 3 children under 9, if any of them were ever abused and we took legal action, I wouldn't claim the lawyers were indirectly responsible for the abuse. There would be plenty of terrible things to say about the predators. Lawyers work with the information they have and they try to put together a case.

If you had defended someone and believed their innocence only to find out they were guilty, wouldn't you try to minimize your association with them.

Back to the OC, none of us is changing this course we're on. That was my main criticism (and I find the wild hysterical whinging hilarious (thanks for the correction). I'm infuriated we didn't get Ludwig but I'm waiting to see how this plays out.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Promotion of Gerad Parker to OC would effectively be an admission that we blanked on everyone else and have no other options.

I woulda been happier if they woulda just offered him in the first place compared to going back and then offering him

 

[NDMatt91]

If what Driskell is being told is true, I wonder if Jack would've been fine with paying the buyout if Ludwig graduated from ND. We saw last year how he bent over backwards to keep Tommy, a ND man, before he even named the next Head Coach.

 

[Dale]

There is zero chance they got his old contract. This isn’t a matter of doing a Google search and finding the wrong article (like us). These are paid agents and legitimate contracts.


I can believe they never expected to pay it actually, and assumed a negotiation was there to be had.