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[FDNYIrish1]

They just made MF look like a complete fool by pulling this small time BS. Pathetic.

 

[arrowryan]

$2.8M buyout for an assistant football coach being an obstacle for a school with this much money just rings really hollow to me.

It shows us where their priorities are. The whole “championship” mentality is just bullshit.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Now that I think about it more losing Ludwig sucks but it's not the end of the world. We don't know if he was Freemans top choice? We don't even know who they have interviewed. Last I heard they offered the Kansas State Coach. Ludwig could have easily said no thanks and its possible he was a 1 year or 2 year guy. What sucks is the way ND handled it that looks bad. I think they can higher just about anyone and this offense should be a top 20 offense or better next year. Does anyone have a realistic list of guys who are left for us to consider? Here is my top choices if I were Freeman.
1. Mike Yurcich would be a home run higher, I think he's a better choice than Ludwig.
2. Bryon Leftwich would be a short term answer. Most likely here for a year or 2.
3. Joe Brady.

 

[ThePiombino]

Who wants to tell him? It's not the decision, it's that they basically went through all the motions of offering and THEN pulled the rug out from under:



Also, Ludwig WAS our top guy...

 

[CTIDANDREW]

Now that I think about it more losing Ludwig sucks but it's not the end of the world. We don't know if he was Freemans top choice? We don't even know who they have interviewed. Last I heard they offered the Kansas State Coach. Ludwig could have easily said no thanks and its possible he was a 1 year or 2 year guy. What sucks is the way ND handled it that looks bad. I think they can higher just about anyone and this offense should be a top 20 offense or better next year. Does anyone have a realistic list of guys who are left for us to consider? Here is my top choices if I were Freeman.
1. Mike Yurcich would be a home run higher, I think he's a better choice than Ludwig.
2. Bryon Leftwich would be a short term answer. Most likely here for a year or 2.
3. Joe Brady.

Have to assume Yurcich has a buyout clause in his contract as well that would be an "obstacle"
Apologies if it has been reported that he doesn't.

I would be shocked if an Ohio guy who went to college in PA left PSU when they have arguably their most loaded roster in decades with a young stud QB.

 

[Irish du Nord]

I like Sampson well enough on The Athletic.

dunno if you rope that in with ISD et al in "paid sites" tho. That's the only one I pay for.

I like the Tims and Sampson on the II pod and I like basically everyone on the ISD pod(s) except for Debbie Downer.

None of them are perfect, but those are all fine to good.

I like the Tims more than Sampson. Sampson sometimes acts like he’s so much more reasonable than these crazy fans. Which I get, cause there’s

Who wants to tell him? It's not the decision, it's that they basically went through all the motions of offering and THEN pulled the rug out from under:



Also, Ludwig WAS our top guy...

Tbf, our top guy does not equal the top guy at his coordinator position as Gray was saying

 

[ThePiombino]

I like the Tims more than Sampson. Sampson sometimes acts like he’s so much more reasonable than these crazy fans. Which I get, cause there’s

Tbf, our top guy does not equal the top guy at his coordinator position as Gray was saying

If he's who we (MF) identified as the guy ND wants/needs then he is the top guy as far as ND is concerned.

 

[IrishLax]

From the people that brought you the “Dick Corbett Head Football Coach” we present to you the:

IrishEnvy.com Offensive Coordinator

Has a worse ring to it than Battle Frog Fiesta Bowl

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Saw the news last night. Listened to Irish Breakdown on my way into work. Irish Illustrated has a pod scheduled for today. Hoping my rage subsides a little and I can become slightly rational.

At this point, my gut emotion is to fully support Freeman without supporting the University's hollow voices. Actions speak louder than words and they're setting Freeman up to fail.

Why are corporations and institutions so fucking clueless as to why it's important to INVEST IN YOUR OWN STAFF AND PRODUCTS?! I see this everywhere. And I'm sick of it. ND as a brand and as a product could and should be untouchable by it's peers, yet they constantly refuse to invest money into themselves in order to actually be the thing they claim to be. Excellence on all fronts? Bullllshit.

 

[MacIrish75]

At least we get more flight tracker posts now…🤷🏼‍♂️

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Saw the news last night. Listened to Irish Breakdown on my way into work. Irish Illustrated has a pod scheduled for today. Hoping my rage subsides a little and I can become slightly rational.

At this point, my gut emotion is to fully support Freeman without supporting the University's hollow voices. Actions speak louder than words and they're setting Freeman up to fail.

Why are corporations and institutions so fucking clueless as to why it's important to INVEST IN YOUR OWN STAFF AND PRODUCTS?! I see this everywhere. And I'm sick of it. ND as a brand and as a product could and should be untouchable by it's peers, yet they constantly refuse to invest money into themselves in order to actually be the thing they claim to be. Excellence on all fronts? Bullllshit.

I heard that. Preach it.

 

[Free Manera]

This might be contrarian but hear me out- maybe this is a good thing.

Not in the short term; it's definitely a shitty, embarrassing, dumpster fire right now.

But maybe this is the straw that breaks the camel's back. Literally everyone outside of the admin/Swarbrick is rallying against this bush league decision. Maybe this can spur change.

It better be because if not, it's kind of the end of ND football as we know it.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

This might be contrarian but hear me out- maybe this is a good thing.

Not in the short term; it's definitely a shitty, embarrassing, dumpster fire right now.

But maybe this is the straw that breaks the camel's back. Literally everyone outside of the admin/Swarbrick is rallying against this bush league decision. Maybe this can spur change.

It better be because if not, it's kind of the end of ND football as we know it.

Only thing the bot and admin understand is money, that is the only thing that would make them rethink their stance if it began to hurt. Even with that, it is doubtful .

 

[Free Manera]

Only thing the bot and admin understand is money, that is the only thing that would make them rethink their stance if it began to hurt. Even with that, it is doubtful .

People like Mendoza need to come out and publicly criticize it. That would be a good start.

 

[arrowryan]

Wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t have an OC by spring ball. Everything about this institution is so damn slow.

 

[WildMan1]

You’d think with the 2nd highest ticket prices in cfb we’d be ballers on the recruiting & coaching trail lol

Fucking hypocritical cheap fucks

 

[IrishLax]

We make significantly less TV revenue than a Purdue and people are surprised that we have trouble financing the staff. There is a reason USC/UCLA jumped to the Big Ten. Gate revenue is borderline irrelevant in the grand scheme of things... media rights, apparel, and donations float the boat.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

We make significantly less TV revenue than a Purdue and people are surprised that we have trouble financing the staff. There is a reason USC/UCLA jumped to the Big Ten. Gate revenue is borderline irrelevant in the grand scheme of things... media rights, apparel, and donations float the boat.

Then rip off the bandaid, the ACC deal is crap anyway. Quasi-independence and cheapness is a sucky combination.

 

[MPClinton22]

The BoT does not appreciate that football is *the* differentiator for ND. They tout academic excellence, but ND football is the cash cow that enables that. Without football, they’re a regional, mid sized private catholic university. They aren’t Stanford, they aren’t Duke, they aren’t Northwestern. They’re more like Xavier, Marquette, Creighton or Dayton. The arrogance is just astounding to neglect the singular thing that is foundational to ND’s identity being different than every other midwestern Catholic school.

 

[Dale]

There is really no issue in my mind with not being willing to pay that amount for Ludwig and possibly Harding.

The process is the issue and unnecessarily embarrassing. If this would have started with they won’t pursue Ludwig because of the buyout, that would have been perfectly reasonable.

I don’t understand this opinion that it’s because we have less money than other schools. Most, if not all other schools wouldn’t pay that buyout.

 

[arrowryan]

We make significantly less TV revenue than a Purdue and people are surprised that we have trouble financing the staff. There is a reason USC/UCLA jumped to the Big Ten. Gate revenue is borderline irrelevant in the grand scheme of things... media rights, apparel, and donations float the boat.

With all due respect, I don’t buy that for a second. Notre Dame is swimming in cash. The university and campus hasn’t stopped growing since I’ve been alive.

 

[Irishdawg]

There is really no issue in my mind with not being willing to pay that amount for Ludwig and possibly Harding.

The process is the issue and unnecessarily embarrassing. If this would have started with they won’t pursue Ludwig because of the buyout, that would have been perfectly reasonable.

I don’t understand this perception that it’s because we have less money than other schools. Most, if not all other schools wouldn’t pay that buyout.

Which is why I agree with your previous posts… that something else has to be up/going on? The administration had to know what the buyout and such would be as part of the vetting process.

 

[Free Manera]

There is really no issue in my mind with not being willing to pay that amount for Ludwig and possibly Harding.

The process is the issue and unnecessarily embarrassing. If this would have started with they won’t pursue Ludwig because of the buyout, that would have been perfectly reasonable.

I don’t understand this opinion that it’s because we have less money than other schools. Most, if not all other schools wouldn’t pay that buyout.

Agree. No one would have batted an eye if after a Zoom interview, they didn't offer Ludwig because of the buyout.

But reporting that Freeman and company were blown away, saying Ludwig is a "genius," making a public appearance at the hockey game, everyone waiting for Ludwig's decision, etc., then backing out because of the buyout, is one of the baby back bitchiest things I've ever seen.

 

[Irishdrunk]

1. This shows how unorganized ND is in terms of chasing a Natty. Not just the administration but how the administration works with the Alumni network. At OSU, Bama, UGA and probably another half dozen programs, the Alumni network would be driving the Administration and financially underwriting these issues. Hell, the Bama Alumni Network paid of Saban's Home Mortgage a decade ago. The Alumni network is not strong financially for the program like it should be.

2. I respect Driskell for losing his shit. He is building his own business - IB Nation - based on the ND Football Program Brand with the belief that ND is truly committed to winning a Natty. This shows they are neither committed nor competently managed enough to win a Natty. I think the last time he got this made was when they took Angeli as QB over Allar - he was right then and is certainly right now. Good for him for blowing an O Ring last night.

3. Brian Kelly is grinding someone right now with a big grin on his face. He is an asshole as a person quite likely but his instincts were right. ND isn't serious and it was more concerning than having a good Chef or the GUG and facilities are not top class. Its the totality and he left.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Agree. No one would have batted an eye if after a Zoom interview, they didn't offer Ludwig because of the buyout.

But reporting that Freeman and company were blown away, saying Ludwig is a "genius," making a public appearance at the hockey game, everyone waiting for Ludwig's decision, etc., then backing out because of the buyout, is one of the baby back bitchiest things I've ever seen.

Agreed. Somebody fucked up.

Either:

1. Marcus gave assurances he shouldn't have?
2. The process was co-ordinated well?
3. Administration pulled back at last second?

I have to think its about the OL Coach buyout. But still that should have been anticipated if Heistand was retiring. Idiots.

 

[irish4ever]

So nearly everyone agrees that this shitshow cost us an OC that we thought would fit well. Now is the question, who are the legitimate potential "QUALIFIED" OC is there that ND can go after? After Klein and Ludwig, I never had anyone else in mind (including Lewis and Leftwich).

 

[NDohio]

Well - logged off all social media about 8:00 last night thinking an exciting announcement would be coming soon...not so much...

 

[Free Manera]

So nearly everyone agrees that this shitshow cost us an OC that we thought would fit well. Now is the question, who are the legitimate potential "QUALIFIED" OC is there that ND can go after? After Klein and Ludwig, I never had anyone else in mind (including Lewis and Leftwich).

It's going to be Parker.

 

[IrishLax]

So nearly everyone agrees that this shitshow cost us an OC that we thought would fit well. Now is the question, who are the legitimate potential "QUALIFIED" OC is there that ND can go after? After Klein and Ludwig, I never had anyone else in mind (including Lewis and Leftwich).

Unless you have some path to snagging Lewis, it is back to the drawing board (and/or you need to reevaluate what you're doing + what you're willing to spend here and try to poach someone from a top tier program). They never expected it to get past Klein and Ludwig.

Show of Clowns.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

They don't want to pay a buyout? Fine. Then they better pony up the money for a big contract for a real good coordinator because perception is reality and the perception is really fucking bad right now.