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irishandy said:
ND messed that one up with Taylor.

I still think ND has a chance to flip Meadows and Hall

I will be shocked if Brown is here after this season.
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If brown is forced out after one year that’s really bad… would mean development and recruiting is bad at wr

If wr play is bad this year, freeman should be gone. Bold statement but there’s no excuse this year to not have really good wr play

I expect wr play to be good or very good and nd to be elite
 
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Hate it but probably pot committed to brown and gotta pray he goes the mike mickens path
 
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IA4irish said:

Ari Wasserman and Max Olson announce departures from The Athletic

amp.awfulannouncing.com amp.awfulannouncing.com

More national writer losses at the athletic. Andy Staples was a big loss for them last year. Their podcasts have really shrunk. Not much reason to subscribe anymore. Pete Sampson articles have become just “meh” in my opinion
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Oof. Wasserman in particular is a big loss. Love him or hate him, the dude knows recruiting and has an edge to his writing that keeps you engaged.

I've been a fan and advocate of The Athletic for a long time but I feel like it has really slipped over the last year or two. Their stable of college football writers has thinned quite a bit, and the ones who are left seem to spend too much time writing about Deion Sanders, a video game and sports betting odds (I realize there's a market for these things, but it's cheap and easy, unlike the smart, deep, looks at the sport and its teams and players and coaches they used to specialize in.) Frankly it's gotten even worse in a lot of other sports.

Pete's stuff is still fine but not what it was. I also wonder how much of that has to do with reduced access from the program. Some of his best work for The Athletic has involved in-depth interviews with players/coaches. Which is harder when you can't talk with them. Last week he wrote a good piece about Loren Landow, without actually talking to Landow (he went to Denver and talked to his acolytes there). There are only so many ways/times you can make that move.
 
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Oof. Wasserman in particular is a big loss. Love him or hate him, the dude knows recruiting and has an edge to his writing that keeps you engaged.

I've been a fan and advocate of The Athletic for a long time but I feel like it has really slipped over the last year or two. Their stable of college football writers has thinned quite a bit, and the ones who are left seem to spend too much time writing about Deion Sanders, a video game and sports betting odds (I realize there's a market for these things, but it's cheap and easy, unlike the smart, deep, looks at the sport and its teams and players and coaches they used to specialize in.) Frankly it's gotten even worse in a lot of other sports.

Pete's stuff is still fine but not what it was. I also wonder how much of that has to do with reduced access from the program. Some of his best work for The Athletic has involved in-depth interviews with players/coaches. Which is harder when you can't talk with them. Last week he wrote a good piece about Loren Landow, without actually talking to Landow (he went to Denver and talked to his acolytes there). There are only so many ways/times you can make that move.
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Isn’t he the guy that thinks if you have the #1 recruiting class then you should be the #1 team? Small brain boy.
 
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arrowryan said:
Isn’t he the guy that thinks if you have the #1 recruiting class then you should be the #1 team? Small brain boy.
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IDK about "be" the #1 team, but yeah "Stars Matter" - the notion that elite recruiting is what creates elite teams - is basically his mantra. Which is kind of reductive (and annoying if your recruiting is less than elite) but also, kind of not wrong...
 
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PutuporShutup said:
If brown is forced out after one year that’s really bad… would mean development and recruiting is bad at wr

If wr play is bad this year, freeman should be gone. Bold statement but there’s no excuse this year to not have really good wr play

I expect wr play to be good or very good and nd to be elite
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Behind closed doors I wonder what Freeman would say about going 0-3 with Meadows, Robinson, and Hines.

I want to be sold on Brown- going 0-3 on the recruiting side is not a good start, post # 5,344 implies that recruits are not impressed with Brown.

I 100% disagree that if WR play is bad this year that Freeman should not be gone, Brown needs the WR group to show production on the field and win off the field in recruiting.

ND can be elite- we have the QB and the options at WR for someone to step up. I still want to see a 1,000 yard receiving WR.
 
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irishandy said:
Behind closed doors I wonder what Freeman would say about going 0-3 with Meadows, Robinson, and Hines.

I want to be sold on Brown- going 0-3 on the recruiting side is not a good start, post # 5,344 implies that recruits are not impressed with Brown.

I 100% disagree that if WR play is bad this year that Freeman should be gone, Brown needs the WR group to show production on the field and win off the field in recruiting.

ND can be elite- we have the QB and the options at WR for someone to step up. I still want to see a 1,000 yard receiving WR.
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So if ND goes 12-0/11-1 and the receiver group isn’t good, MF should be gone?

I’ve been as critical as anyone about the receiver group, but that seems extreme.
 
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arrowryan said:
So if ND goes 12-0/11-1 and the receiver group isn’t good, MF should be gone?

I’ve been as critical as anyone about the receiver group, but that seems extreme.
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The record won't be mutually exclusive this year with the WR play. Given Denbrocks offense and our strong reliance on TEs over the last few years...poor WR play this year will have a strong correlation to a poor record...
 
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arrowryan said:
So if ND goes 12-0/11-1 and the receiver group isn’t good, MF should be gone?

I’ve been as critical as anyone about the receiver group, but that seems extreme.
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Apologies, I fixed my original comment. Freeman should not be gone no matter what the WR group does.

I understand the board being critical about the position coach and the receiver group, but I think we have to give them a chance.
 
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arrowryan said:
So if ND goes 12-0/11-1 and the receiver group isn’t good, MF should be gone?

I’ve been as critical as anyone about the receiver group, but that seems extreme.
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If the WR’s are bad and we end up with that record we either had killer good luck or we did some other items really really good.
 
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irishff1014 said:
If the WR’s are bad and we end up with that record we either had killer good luck or we did some other items really really good.
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I'm too lazy to do it, but it seems that during the Kelly era, all of his undefeated or one loss regular season teams had a few good WR's.
 
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NDQuebec said:
I'm too lazy to do it, but it seems that during the Kelly era, all of his undefeated or one loss regular season teams had a few good WR's.
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2020 sure didn't lol. Neither did '21, I think Kevin Austin had fewer than 900 yards that season.
 
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Irishokie said:
Gilbert Gottfried sounding ass.
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The bumper music/cold open piece for his show took the makes.. me wanna punch a baby up to the throw a baby through the wall level. Nails on a chalkboard grating nightmare. Him and the linebacker had a show together I think but I couldn’t fathom the suck of that.
 
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His twitter account is pure ass Moronic shit


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INLaw said:
The bumper music/cold open piece for his show took the makes.. me wanna punch a baby up to the throw a baby through the wall level. Nails on a chalkboard grating nightmare. Him and the linebacker had a show together I think but I couldn’t fathom the suck of that.
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I'd say we have a pretty good idea where you stand. lol
 
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So what’s going on with IB I don’t listen to it in the summer bc I can’t stand Vince. I know they hired a new guy but is he the director of recruiting or did they give it to Shaun Davis. Is they gave it to Shaun I can’t even bother with them anymore. Started listening to locked on lately and I do enjoy it.
 
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