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Watch his highlight film, he can flat play. OFD likened him to Ben Hansbrough and I think that description works perfectly. We need a fearless playmaker after Connaughton leaves.
 

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Only as a preferred walk on though I believe. Looks as if we were his only other offer from a power conference? If rivals is correct on that, it's a bit disturbing.

Mid majors like Creigton and Butler were next in life to offer.

We had an extra scholarship, this kid is a winner, battles, works his arse off, and is the type that will get better bc of his desire and work ethic. He is a glue guy thatyou need on your team. He is not an ACC starting pg as a freshman or even a soph, but I think with a redshirt year, he'll eventually contribute. And with an extra scholly to give, thisis not a bad guy to give it to.

I'm the first guy to say that I think Brey needs to recruit better, but I'm OK with this late signing...
 

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We are also after PF Jackson Davis to end the class of 2014. That kid is a stud.
 

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Mid majors like Creigton and Butler were next in life to offer.

We had an extra scholarship, this kid is a winner, battles, works his arse off, and is the type that will get better bc of his desire and work ethic. He is a glue guy thatyou need on your team. He is not an ACC starting pg as a freshman or even a soph, but I think with a redshirt year, he'll eventually contribute. And with an extra scholly to give, thisis not a bad guy to give it to.

I'm the first guy to say that I think Brey needs to recruit better, but I'm OK with this late signing...

I've thought that for several years now. Should be easier to find enough studs to fill a bball roster than a FB roster.
 

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Mid majors like Creigton and Butler were next in life to offer.

We had an extra scholarship, this kid is a winner, battles, works his arse off, and is the type that will get better bc of his desire and work ethic. He is a glue guy thatyou need on your team. He is not an ACC starting pg as a freshman or even a soph, but I think with a redshirt year, he'll eventually contribute. And with an extra scholly to give, thisis not a bad guy to give it to.

I'm the first guy to say that I think Brey needs to recruit better, but I'm OK with this late signing...

so he will be the Bruce Heggie of ND MBB?
 

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so he will be the Bruce Heggie of ND MBB?

No, Heggie was completely off EVERYONE'S radar except for William and Mary College.

This kid had played some of the best players in the Northwest and more than held his own and even outplayed a couple. And Creighton and Butler are two schools known to play some really good basketball over the years. He can play, he's just small and not ultra quick, which is a problem on the next level of course. But IMHO he will help the bball program down the road and earn his scholly.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Temple transfer Anthony Lee told ESPN he's trimmed his list to five: Ohio State, Indiana, Louisville, Iowa State and Notre Dame.</p>— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/statuses/448191850101604352">March 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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6'9" 230. Averaged 13.6 and 8.6 this past year. Immediate eligibility. Yes please. This is literally exactly what we need. We have a great team going into next year if we can get an impact big-man transfer.
 

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Damn, he grew an inch and put on 45 pounds since his freshman year. That seems like a lot to me for some reason. Obviously a good thing.
 
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6'9" 230. Averaged 13.6 and 8.6 this past year. Immediate eligibility. Yes please. This is literally exactly what we need. We have a great team going into next year if we can get an impact big-man transfer.

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Yeah, I'm not feeling the 'great' team part. We could potentially be very good if everything falls into place, but we'd need a lot to go right. 3 things especially:

1. Grant comes back hungry and even better than this year (likely).
2. Absolutely no injuries, especially to the frontcourt (when does that happen to ND???).
3. Pat C comes back. Despite what he has been saying, it's no given, especially if he gets drafted as high as some people think. He might just think the money is too good to pass up.

I love the fact that so many young players got great minutes, but we need the above to happen, PLUS everyone getting better this off-season (as fans we always think that's automatic but guys do stay stagnant or even regress).

But yes, we REALLY need this guy to come to ND...
 

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Pat and Brey both expect Pat to be drafted at least in the early second round if not first, sign with that team, play this summer for that organization, then return to ND in the fall. It's been done before, most notably recently by Russell Wilson.
 

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There are some good pieces as long as everyone improves. Atkins has run the team for 4 years basically and leaves a huge whole, despite Jackson's potential. Auguste really needs to find a way to contribute on a nightly basis. Vasturia played some really good basketball but needs to improve strength, Burgette flashed a few times. Adding Lee on the inside would obviously be huge but the team would still be a ways from being great.
 

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Since Brey refuses to sit star players like Atkins, it is always the case that there is a "huge hole" when one of them graduates. It gets worse when one unexpectedly is lost like Grant since Brey needs months to develop a contingency plan.

The exception to this was when Harangody got injured late and we were a better team for it since there was actual surrounding talent that was free to produce rather than stand around watching Gody post up all day.
 

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I should have added that assuming Jackson makes a big step forward, I think we have a pretty stacked back court heading into next year. Grant was putting up 19 and 6 (crazy assists for a SG) and he's had nothing to do but play basketball the last few months. I'm hoping he comes back improved like McAlarney. I think the expectation for him is to be scoring 20+ a game next year to go along with his usual 5-6 assists. Connaughton improved his scoring averaged by 4.9 points this past year and averaged 13.8 and 7.1. I don't think its unrealistic to expect another jump and 15+ points a game from him. If DJ can take a step forward, I'd take those three guards against any in the country. Vasturia, Beachem, Burgett, Auguste all showed flashes and if we could just get solid improvement from all 4 to go along with a guy like Lee who would solidify the 5 position for us, then, yes, I think we'd have a pretty stacked team for next year.
 

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I should have added that assuming Jackson makes a big step forward, I think we have a pretty stacked back court heading into next year. Grant was putting up 19 and 6 (crazy assists for a SG) and he's had nothing to do but play basketball the last few months. I'm hoping he comes back improved like McAlarney. I think the expectation for him is to be scoring 20+ a game next year to go along with his usual 5-6 assists. Connaughton improved his scoring averaged by 4.9 points this past year and averaged 13.8 and 7.1. I don't think its unrealistic to expect another jump and 15+ points a game from him. If DJ can take a step forward, I'd take those three guards against any in the country. Vasturia, Beachem, Burgett, Auguste all showed flashes and if we could just get solid improvement from all 4 to go along with a guy like Lee who would solidify the 5 position for us, then, yes, I think we'd have a pretty stacked team for next year.

All that may come to pass but the front court situation is much more dire than you make it out to be. All of our bigs have fatal flaws that make them a huge liability at one end of the court or the other. Burgett might be the most balanced of the bigs but that's not saying much.
 

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All that may come to pass but the front court situation is much more dire than you make it out to be. All of our bigs have fatal flaws that make them a huge liability at one end of the court or the other. Burgett might be the most balanced of the bigs but that's not saying much.

Oh I know its a massive problem. We have Burgett and Auguste and that's it. And neither one has really shown any sort of consistency. I think we're pretty screwed going into next year with big men. If we get a transfer who can make an instant impact, I think were a top 25 team. If we don't, I think were middle of the road ACC and about a 8-12 seed.
 

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Oh I know its a massive problem. We have Burgett and Auguste and that's it. And neither one has really shown any sort of consistency. I think we're pretty screwed going into next year with big men. If we get a transfer who can make an instant impact, I think were a top 25 team. If we don't, I think were middle of the road ACC and about a 8-12 seed.

I'm having a hard time imagining us making the tournament next year even with a big man transfer. Atkins carried us throughout the year with his point guard play. I'm having a hard time seeing DJ picking up where Atkins left off and being able to run the team. I just don't see it happening. I think we could have a worse season next year.
 

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I'm having a hard time imagining us making the tournament next year even with a big man transfer. Atkins carried us throughout the year with his point guard play. I'm having a hard time seeing DJ picking up where Atkins left off and being able to run the team. I just don't see it happening. I think we could have a worse season next year.

I guess I'm of the opinion that:

Grant>Atkins
no Sherman/Knight=whatever, we can't get any worse there
DJ/Vasturia/Beachem/Burgett/Auguste in 2014-2015>those five in 2013-2014
 

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If Brey has done one thing it is develop non-descript big men into legitimate D1 players.
 

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Also we get Geben, and he's played some U18 championship bball for Lithuania (I think) on an international level. Should be able to contribute at some level immediately.
 
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I'm surprised Farrell got an offer from anyone. He's a nice player but not a major conference player. Butler passed on him as did other schools. He did get a lot better over his senior year, and I could see him panning out. It's just hard to imagine him being a competitive ACC player.
 

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I guess I'm of the opinion that:

Grant>Atkins
no Sherman/Knight=whatever, we can't get any worse there
DJ/Vasturia/Beachem/Burgett/Auguste in 2014-2015>those five in 2013-2014

I agree that Grants a better talent and overall scorer but he is not going to replace the way Atkins bran the team at point. If Grant takes on that role I think it will be.bad for the team and bring down his production. He's a 2 not a 1
 
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