NC State Ref Show Post Game

Rudy89

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got home from my convention and im checking the game out…good lord i see why everyone was so angry in the first half.
 

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I love Freeman's aggression, but he should've kicked the second time. Sometimes you have to take the points to create some separation.

The only complaint I have is the fades to Faison. Throw those to the bigger guys.
 

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Tinkering in a one score game is not acceptable. He should've learned his lesson last year with Northern Illinois. That's disrespectful to the game and how hard it is to win to tinker with things instead do what is the right thing and get your two yards and move the sticks and try the stupid shit you want to "tinker"with on first down

Yeah, this wasn't a one score game... if you hadn't noticed, they dominated and the opposing team scored seven (7) points

Everything was fine. Calm down
 

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I love Freeman's aggression, but he should've kicked the second time. Sometimes you have to take the points to create some separation.

The only complaint I have is the fades to Faison. Throw those to the bigger guys.
Yeah. 4th and inches is one thing, 4th and 3rd after we've already missed another 4th down attempt, take the points.
 

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Yeah, the offense did well overall, but there is room for improvement. This is actually very promising, because the offense is already really good, but it could be truly elite. It's still good enough to make a deep run if things break the right way, but first, USC.
Short yardage needs to have some under center plays. Ridiculous to be playing out of shotgun with 4 & inches. Just stupid and BS 4th down cute lame calls by denbrock.
 

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About 3 rows up from us was an annoying Wolfpack fan trash talking on just about every play. Then magically about half way through the 3rd he shut up and focused on his $12 beers.

In contrast, 2 guys that flew up from NC were a row behind. We had a good chat, but I got the impression they were struggling with the second half. Asked them about their coach. They indicated it was time for new blood, Dave has helped them remain competitive, but he long ago peaked.
 

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I got married yesterday, so I didn’t watch the game.

They seriously picked this flag up? I know it was a desperation throw by Carr, but c’mon lol.



That’s two terrible officiating jobs in a row now.


Congrats
 

Irish#1

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I got married yesterday, so I didn’t watch the game.

They seriously picked this flag up? I know it was a desperation throw by Carr, but c’mon lol.



That’s two terrible officiating jobs in a row now.

Congrats. Just remember to never get married again on a Saturday during FB season.
 

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We have to get the nickel position figured out. I really thought Golden was faster than he is. Looks like a safety trying to play man to man and just fully out of place. Right now until they force nickels to tackle you gotta put a guy in that can play man. Hopefully Smith can play this week.

Was he close at all to playing yesterday or his he going to be out for awhile?
 

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I have said it and i know others have as well, but the rotation that they use with Love and Price doesn’t make sense. The one drive Love broke off an 18 yarder I believe it was and he had a run before that for a few yards. That’s when you bring Price in. They are beat and the 2 previous runs were more physical. Then bring in the speed and burned them.

Price didn’t help himself with the fumble either late in the game.
 

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I have said it and i know others have as well, but the rotation that they use with Love and Price doesn’t make sense. The one drive Love broke off an 18 yarder I believe it was and he had a run before that for a few yards. That’s when you bring Price in. They are beat and the 2 previous runs were more physical. Then bring in the speed and burned them.

Price didn’t help himself with the fumble either late in the game.
Seems to me they’re trying to get Love in a rhythm before bringing in Price. IMO you rotate early to see if one or the other appears to have the hotter hand.
 

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We have to get the nickel position figured out. I really thought Golden was faster than he is. Looks like a safety trying to play man to man and just fully out of place. Right now until they force nickels to tackle you gotta put a guy in that can play man. Hopefully Smith can play this week.

Was he close at all to playing yesterday or his he going to be out for awhile?
Ehhh I don't know, true freshman got beat on one double move, didn't really notice much the rest of the game, usually a good sign. Don't think Smith is athletic as Golden.
 

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I didn’t get to see any of the game (I don’t have Peacock), but looked at the box score and watched some highlights.

One critique I have is the consistent “going for it” on 4th and short. What do some coaches have against points? You’re at home, against an inferior opponent, and you’re still “breaking in” a green QB — take the points and build off the momentum. Failing to convert can cost teams games (see Georgia vs Alabama).

Also, per the highlights, it looks like they get too cute on some of the 4th ground attempts — I hated the Carr rollout on 4th and inches. It’s 4th and inches … don’t overthink it. What happened to the I-formation, having a fullback stick his hand in the turf, and using your beasts of RBs to run behind?

Lastly, building off the previous paragraph, in terms of getting innovative, offensively, I still don’t know why they don’t put Love (or Price) at QB (in shotgun) and have the other back next to them. Imagine for a moment having to defend both of those backs …. Houston Nutt did that to LSU’s championship team when they had McFadden, Felix Jones, and Peyton Hillis and it utterly destroyed us.
 

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Seems to me they’re trying to get Love in a rhythm before bringing in Price. IMO you rotate early to see if one or the other appears to have the hotter hand.
The rotation is set: Love gets the first two series of the game and then Price comes in for the third. After that, it's less structured, but Love has been getting a lot more time than Price regardless of results.

Seider has really shortened the RB rotation and it will probably result in transfers from the room. Luckily he's recruiting at an elite level to cover the potential departures.
 

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We have to get the nickel position figured out. I really thought Golden was faster than he is. Looks like a safety trying to play man to man and just fully out of place. Right now until they force nickels to tackle you gotta put a guy in that can play man. Hopefully Smith can play this week.

Was he close at all to playing yesterday or his he going to be out for awhile?
He seemed pretty fast catching back up after getting burned, on the td throw. He was damn close to actually tipping that ball away.
A true freshman learning on the job. Im not worried, though he probably got away with some grabbing at times.
 

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Didnt get to see the game or any updates as I was in a bass tournament. Good win, now fuck usc
 

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I got married yesterday, so I didn’t watch the game.

They seriously picked this flag up? I know it was a desperation throw by Carr, but c’mon lol.



Congratulations on your wedding!! Wishing you two happy years and the deepest of love forevermore.

That’s two terrible officiating jobs in a row now.
 

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I didn’t get to see any of the game (I don’t have Peacock), but looked at the box score and watched some highlights.

One critique I have is the consistent “going for it” on 4th and short. What do some coaches have against points? You’re at home, against an inferior opponent, and you’re still “breaking in” a green QB — take the points and build off the momentum. Failing to convert can cost teams games (see Georgia vs Alabama).

Also, per the highlights, it looks like they get too cute on some of the 4th ground attempts — I hated the Carr rollout on 4th and inches. It’s 4th and inches … don’t overthink it. What happened to the I-formation, having a fullback stick his hand in the turf, and using your beasts of RBs to run behind?

Lastly, building off the previous paragraph, in terms of getting innovative, offensively, I still don’t know why they don’t put Love (or Price) at QB (in shotgun) and have the other back next to them. Imagine for a moment having to defend both of those backs …. Houston Nutt did that to LSU’s championship team when they had McFadden, Felix Jones, and Peyton Hillis and it utterly destroyed us.
your last paragraph, I’ve been screaming for this since game one. You have a lead blocker if Love keeps, you can hand off or read the end
 

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I didn’t get to see any of the game (I don’t have Peacock), but looked at the box score and watched some highlights.

One critique I have is the consistent “going for it” on 4th and short. What do some coaches have against points? You’re at home, against an inferior opponent, and you’re still “breaking in” a green QB — take the points and build off the momentum. Failing to convert can cost teams games (see Georgia vs Alabama).

Also, per the highlights, it looks like they get too cute on some of the 4th ground attempts — I hated the Carr rollout on 4th and inches. It’s 4th and inches … don’t overthink it. What happened to the I-formation, having a fullback stick his hand in the turf, and using your beasts of RBs to run behind?

Lastly, building off the previous paragraph, in terms of getting innovative, offensively, I still don’t know why they don’t put Love (or Price) at QB (in shotgun) and have the other back next to them. Imagine for a moment having to defend both of those backs …. Houston Nutt did that to LSU’s championship team when they had McFadden, Felix Jones, and Peyton Hillis and it utterly destroyed us.


Game thread was railing on these points as it unfolded, so you aren't wrong at all.
 
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