NBA Thread

[GBdomer]

JIMMY BUTLER!

 

[KPENN]

Love the cheers Adam Silver gets. Lol

 

[GreatGolson]

Welcome home George Hill

 

[IrishLax]

Shelvin Mack? Really? Why? Disappointing last pick.

 

[GreatGolson]

^dont get into this with me....

 

[IrishLax]

^dont get into this with me....

Should not have been taken this high and isn't a need. Hell, I'd take Ben Hansbrough over him but I'm biased. Should've taken a SF like Parsons or Honeycutt.

 

[GreatGolson]

the heat shouldve taken Shelvin, he's a tough player and a very talented scorer who could be a great role player for a team like the heat, idk how he will do on the wizards but i'd love to see him tare it up with John Wall

 

[IrishLax]

the heat shouldve taken Shelvin, he's a tough player and a very talented scorer who could be a great role player for a team like the heat, idk how he will do on the wizards but i'd love to see him tare it up with John Wall

Exactly. There must simply have been no one left in the draft that the Wiz though highly of so they grabbed a tough guy to come off the bench and spell Wall. I just don't see getting more than ~8 minutes or so a game with a franchise player at PG and him not really having the size/pure scoring ability to play the 2 at an NBA level. Just think it's a bad fit.

 

[GreatGolson]

^true, hope he can get traded to a team like Miami or maybe SA or Dallas who can use him better. But who knows, maybe he'll come out and throw down, he came out of nowhere in college, it could happen again.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Should not have been taken this high and isn't a need. Hell, I'd take Ben Hansbrough over him but I'm biased.

Good thing you're not a GM then because that would be a terrible decision.

 

[Ironman8]

Knicks get Josh Harrelson. BOOOOOM lol.

 

[IrishLax]

Good thing you're not a GM then because that would be a terrible decision.

Yeah OK non-biased fan with so much knowledge of the Wizards. Serious question, did you even watch a single Washington game this year? Without cheating, and be honest, can you name me anyone on their team besides John Wall?

Mack is a bad fit because it is our LEAST area of need on the entire team. Now, if you take a guy who can play really well off-ball and shoot the 3 it makes sense because you could put him on the floor with Wall as well as spot duty playing the point while he rests.

Hansbrough shot 48% from the field and 44% from 3. Mack shot 41% from the field and 35% from 3... against worse competition. I would take Hansbrough (or any other PG who can also shoot) because he could work into a rotation. Mack is not a good shooter.

Mack will never work into a rotation. He was taken because he is a tough PG with good size who will be able to come off the bench and give Wall breathers without being a liability on defense. He will never be a starter on this team and that's why I don't like the pick.

Clearly, the GM thought that no one left on the board had a chance of being a starter or even rotation player in an area of need... and they also were clearly drafting for athleticism and defense... so Mack fits that billet to a T. 6'3" with his strength and motor at PG is going to be a great asset. So I don't hate the pick... I just think it was misguided and wish they had drafted at an area of need.

 

[rikkitikki08]

Love the move larry legend made, have george hill run the point and bring collison off the bench. Bird said he wanted the best bench in the league, he is shaping it that way nicely

 

[GreatGolson]

this is a big draft for the pacers, could challenge for the division in 2011-2012

 

[ACamp1900]

I am aware there is a white mormon who is apparently suspect to some because hs is both white and mormon...

and with that you can tell my knowledge and interest in the nba at present...

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Yeah OK non-biased fan with so much knowledge of the Wizards. Serious question, did you even watch a single Washington game this year? Without cheating, and be honest, can you name me anyone on their team besides John Wall?

Mack is a bad fit because it is our LEAST area of need on the entire team. Now, if you take a guy who can play really well off-ball and shoot the 3 it makes sense because you could put him on the floor with Wall as well as spot duty playing the point while he rests.

Hansbrough shot 48% from the field and 44% from 3. Mack shot 41% from the field and 35% from 3... against worse competition. I would take Hansbrough (or any other PG who can also shoot) because he could work into a rotation. Mack is not a good shooter.

Mack will never work into a rotation. He was taken because he is a tough PG with good size who will be able to come off the bench and give Wall breathers without being a liability on defense. He will never be a starter on this team and that's why I don't like the pick.

Clearly, the GM thought that no one left on the board had a chance of being a starter or even rotation player in an area of need... and they also were clearly drafting for athleticism and defense... so Mack fits that billet to a T. 6'3" with his strength and motor at PG is going to be a great asset. So I don't hate the pick... I just think it was misguided and wish they had drafted at an area of need.

LOL. Name someone on their team without cheating? Nick Young played for them but he's a free agent. Blatche, McGee, Jordan Crawford, I remember them trading for Rashard Lewis with Orlando and trading with I think the Nets to get Yi Jianlian. They don't have Caron Butler anymore because they traded him to the Mavericks for I'm pretty sure Howard. So what, 6 or 7 non-John Wall players? Yep, good point.

Ben Hansbrough is not athletic enough to be an NBA shooting guard. On defense he would get absolutely annihilated. He's slow in transition and is a shooter only. He's one-dimensional and built for Europe with a slower pace and more emphasis on fundamentals.

Shelvin Mack is not a bad shooter. 8-11 in the national semifinal. 7 threes against Pittsburgh with 30 points. He's streaky but he can definitely shoot. How many times did you watch Butler play? He did much much much better when he wasn't the number one option. 39% from 3 his sophomore year when Gordon Hayward and Willie Veasley were playing. Mack can shoot. It's not a problem for him. Mack is going to be a combo guard. He can shoot well enough when the defense is focused on Wall and whatever other wings would be out there for Washington. He's the same size as Hansbrough so there is no advantage for him there.

He can also play defense. He has improved big time since his freshman year on defense and is only going to get better. Last summer he worked out with the US national team and he lost weight, got stronger, got quicker, and improved on defense. He can drive to the hoop and has the body type to where he can make contested layups, something Hansbrough wouldn't be able to do in the NBA. Hansbrough is not an NBA player. He'll have a nice career in Turkey or Italy, but Mack is an NBA player who will be a solid #2 point guard who can play some shooting guard as well.

 

[thebutlerdidit]

LOL. Name someone on their team without cheating? Nick Young played for them but he's a free agent. Blatche, McGee, Jordan Crawford, I remember them trading for Rashard Lewis with Orlando and trading with I think the Nets to get Yi Jianlian. They don't have Caron Butler anymore because they traded him to the Mavericks for I'm pretty sure Howard. So what, 6 or 7 non-John Wall players? Yep, good point.

Ben Hansbrough is not athletic enough to be an NBA shooting guard. On defense he would get absolutely annihilated. He's slow in transition and is a shooter only. He's one-dimensional and built for Europe with a slower pace and more emphasis on fundamentals.

Shelvin Mack is not a bad shooter. 8-11 in the national semifinal. 7 threes against Pittsburgh with 30 points. He's streaky but he can definitely shoot. How many times did you watch Butler play? He did much much much better when he wasn't the number one option. 39% from 3 his sophomore year when Gordon Hayward and Willie Veasley were playing. Mack can shoot. It's not a problem for him. Mack is going to be a combo guard. He can shoot well enough when the defense is focused on Wall and whatever other wings would be out there for Washington. He's the same size as Hansbrough so there is no advantage for him there.

He can also play defense. He has improved big time since his freshman year on defense and is only going to get better. Last summer he worked out with the US national team and he lost weight, got stronger, got quicker, and improved on defense. He can drive to the hoop and has the body type to where he can make contested layups, something Hansbrough wouldn't be able to do in the NBA. Hansbrough is not an NBA player. He'll have a nice career in Turkey or Italy, but Mack is an NBA player who will be a solid #2 point guard who can play some shooting guard as well.

^TRUTH. Mack is a gamer, plain and simple. He knows how to win, something the Wizards don't really know how to do. He's a tough, combo guard which is something Washington needed. Not saying they didn't need a spot-up shooter, but Mack was the best value pick at that spot IMO.

Hansborough should've played in the Portsmouth to raise his draft stock.

 

[DANsanity15]

Love the move larry legend made, have george hill run the point and bring collison off the bench. Bird said he wanted the best bench in the league, he is shaping it that way nicely

I live in the Indy area so most of my friends are pacers fans. Myself and about half of their fans all think Granger should be traded. I wish they'd get Paul Millsap and Hayward for him but thats just me..anyone else feel he should be traded?

 

[Ironman8]

Yao Ming has reportedly retired from the NBA. Great talent, but men of that size have always had trouble staying healthy, specifically when it comes to feet and knees. Sad to see.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Y! Sources: Houston's Yao Ming, one of game's global icons, has decided to retire from the NBA. Sources: Rockets' Yao set to retire - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

 

[Ironman8]

I am probably in the a very small minority on here, but I for one am really disappointed in this lockout. The greed of a few ruin the enjoyment of a sport for the masses.

I as a fan am pissed that I may lose the last decent year in Kobe's, Garnett's, Pierce's, and Duncan's and Kidd's legs. I'm pissed I am missing the prime years of some extraordinary talents: Lebron, Durant, Wade, Anthony, Paul, Howard, Carmelo, Amare, Nowitzki and others. As much as I love my football and hockey, I will really miss the NBA.

 

[GBdomer]

I am probably in the a very small minority on here, but I for one am really disappointed in this lockout. The greed of a few ruin the enjoyment of a sport for the masses.

I as a fan am pissed that I may lose the last decent year in Kobe's, Garnett's, Pierce's, and Duncan's and Kidd's legs. I'm pissed I am missing the prime years of some extraordinary talents: Lebron, Durant, Wade, Anthony, Paul, Howard, Carmelo, Amare, Nowitzki and others. As much as I love my football and hockey, I will really miss the NBA.

Couldn't agree more dude.

 

[nd1]

i agree ironman. I will miss the nba as well. I just wish the owners and players could get this solve and get to the court but it's not looking good.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Missing big-time for me too. Even though the college game is more excited for me, the NBA is where my favorite team (outside of ND) resides, so not seeing Kobe and co. is gonna suck, no doubt...

 

[GBdomer]

This was the Bulls year if we could get a 2. David Stern is the worst owner in sports.

 

[Ironman8]

Real ironic that I just posted in this thread, considering I actually just saw and had a couple words with one of the players I mentioned.

I left work early today after getting my stuff done and noticed on twitter that Melo was signing autographs a couple blind from where I work. Get there right in between the first rush and everyone else and get to meet him and get a signed pic. Pretty nice start to the weekend if I say so myself.

Ps Everyone was asking about the lockout so I refrained. Just told him I am looking forward to a full year of him and Amare whenever that happens.

 

[Carlyle Javar Holiday]

Hopefully they only miss 20 games or so. So far they are trying to cram the missed games into the regular season so they can still play all 82 games.

Just hope they resolve it before Christmas, I got my Bulls/Lakers tix already and can't wait to see that game.

 

[nd1]

Real ironic that I just posted in this thread, considering I actually just saw and had a couple words with one of the players I mentioned.

I left work early today after getting my stuff done and noticed on twitter that Melo was signing autographs a couple blind from where I work. Get there right in between the first rush and everyone else and get to meet him and get a signed pic. Pretty nice start to the weekend if I say so myself.

Ps Everyone was asking about the lockout so I refrained. Just told him I am looking forward to a full year of him and Amare whenever that happens.

that is awsome ironman. I bet you were giddy like a d*mn school girl.

 

[Ironman8]

that is awsome ironman. I bet you were giddy like a d*mn school girl.

Giddier. lol

 

[Ironman8]

Really pumped the Knicks finally got a top 5 center (you don't win in the playoffs without a center, period), but probably even more excited about the way we did it. For the first time in forever, our front office actually orchestrated a savvy business mov: Rather than signing Tyson outright and losing some available mid-level exception to sign a guard or two, we acquired him via a sign and trade with the Mavs, allowing us to keep all our exceptions for all three years going forward.

In addition, if for any reason our mini big 3 doesn't work, all of their contracts expire after the 2014 season, so we can just blow it up and start over from scratch with total salary cap flexibility in one year. Not hoping for that by any means, but it is nice to see that our management is acting with practical business sense with an eye for the future as well as present for once.

Go Knicks!

 

[ndyeater]

Heat are already annoying me Lets Go Bulls!!!