MSU Postgame

[stlnd01]

I definitely don’t have all the answers but I think there are 3 tweaks to the run game that could help.

1. Adding the jet motion action that used to be a staple in our run game. It gives the defense something to hesitate on rather than flying downhill plugging the gaps. Where did it go? I would love to see Faison or Graham get a jet sweep every so often to keep the defense honest.
2. Run more pistol. I think the data is there for this one from what I’ve seen.
3. Go under center. Are they saving this for later? Why practice it and admit Carr needs it for the next level and not run it? Watching Love and Price run from under center in the NFL is a thing of beauty. Hate we never got that while they were here.

4: Reunion tour of Deion Colzie and The Wham.

 

[irishnd31]

Awful lot of mattress pissing in this thread/ site. Get a grip gents

 

[bcole2]

That environment was nowhere near "insane". It was pretty tame for a night game.

I would agree. I think it was the nature of the game, especially after only getting a FG after the first play of the game. I also wasn’t in a very vibrant section overall. USC, TAMU, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio State were all pretty raucous. This wasn’t close to those.

 

[ND87]

My only thought is something along the lines of: Denbrock I feel calls the game for how he wants the team to be, instead of calling the game for the team that we are. And he needs to figure out who we are way faster than week 3/4/5.

Isn't that how Kelly operated?

 

[SportsingHard]

4: Reunion tour of Deion Colzie and The Wham.

 

[MacIrish75]

Rudolph and Denbrock need to watch the Colts run scheme with Taylor. Some zone, but lots of gap/man scheme with pulling linemen to lead off the edge.

 

[Dale]

Rudolph and Denbrock need to watch the Colts run scheme with Taylor. Some zone, but lots of gap/man scheme with pulling linemen to lead off the edge.

Our gap runs have been mostly awful until the 4Q of games, the wear down effect has sprung some. They run plenty of em

 

[T-Boone]

Awful lot of mattress pissing in this thread/ site. Get a grip gents

That is mixed with a little something else over Carr's deep balls.

 

[MacIrish75]

Our gap runs have been mostly awful until the 4Q of games, the wear down effect has sprung some. They run plenty of em

Gap runs with Williams have been abysmal, but what hasn’t really. For some reason they haven’t called as many (especially 1H) for James.

 

[Notre Dame Joe]

I'm hearing that Sparty had a tell and knew if it would be a run or a pass!?

 

[RudyVerse]

Hard to rewatch. IDK what his one trait is.

 

[KPENN]

 

[LifelongFan]

Hard to rewatch. IDK what his one trait is.

Colts Trent Richardson. Would not surprise me if he gets zero time at all by the end of the year.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Awful lot of mattress pissing in this thread/ site. Get a grip gents

Very similar to the Wisconsin game.

But if they aren't up by 50 at half, it's catastrophic.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Hard to rewatch. IDK what his one trait is.

The OL hasn't always done it's job, but its been decent enough for RBs to get chunk plays. There HAS TO be a RB on the roster who has better vision than AW at this point.

When I track explosives in the run game, the lack thereof doesn't mean it wasn't there for the taking...

 

[slick7410]

Hard to rewatch. IDK what his one trait is.

I yelled about this one looking across the field from the other end zone from row 53.

 

[DomeFieldAdvantage]

I'm hearing that Sparty had a tell and knew if it would be a run or a pass!?

Do you mean their defense knew what our offense was doing or our defense knew what their offense was doing?

 

[GowerND11]

Do you mean their defense knew what our offense was doing or our defense knew what their offense was doing?

They knew what our offense was doing.

 

[bcole2]

I yelled about this one looking across the field from the other end zone from row 53.

What section were you in? I was in row 54, section 17 doing the exact same thing. So frustrating to watch.

 

[IAIrish]

As I sit here like a Monday morning armchair qb, the offense/Carr seems to have a lot of tells. How the TE's motion, checks Carr makes the position the rb's, feet stance and hands when rb's are in pistol. If we're noticing, all the dc's on the schedule are plotting ways to capitalize on it.

To that point, it looked as though Rossi was having his D use false checks, knowing he'd get Carr to check into a run.

Someone made the point earlier, but Denbrock needs to remind Carr that he's the best player on the field. Just because the box numbers indicate a run check be made doesn't mean he still shouldn't pass.

I'd speculate much the same as many, but feels like Denbrock is really repping runs rather than let CJ throw it around the yard. You'd have to think he'll come out with a 11/10 personnel focused looks and give Greathouse/ Graham some more run.

 

[RudyVerse]

As I sit here like a Monday morning armchair qb, the offense/Carr seems to have a lot of tells. How the TE's motion, checks Carr makes the position the rb's, feet stance and hands when rb's are in pistol. If we're noticing, all the dc's on the schedule are plotting ways to capitalize on it.

To that point, it looked as though Rossi was having his D use false checks, knowing he'd get Carr to check into a run.

Someone made the point earlier, but Denbrock needs to remind Carr that he's the best player on the field. Just because the box numbers indicate a run check be made doesn't mean he still shouldn't pass.

I'd speculate much the same as many, but feels like Denbrock is really repping runs rather than let CJ throw it around the yard. You'd have to think he'll come out with a 11/10 personnel focused looks and give Greathouse/ Graham some more run.

Every time we motion TE or WR into the box right before we snap it it's a run. 100% of the time.

Then there's non-existent slot WR position.

Then there's wasting 2 spots with TE/12 personal to guys you'll never throw to.

I'm glad MF is exactly who he is but this is where having no offensive background hurts when Denbrock has lost his bag.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

They knew what our offense was doing.

It is pretty simple.... I was calling plays to my kid with a extremely high degree of accuracy.

 

[DomeFieldAdvantage]

They knew what our offense was doing.

That's what I thought, but the wording was a bit ambiguous.

It makes sense though. I was wondering if we had a tell during the game. It was a problem with Carr last year and now Dante Moore this year. I was thinking about it during the game because it seemed like the LBs were getting downhill so quickly against the run.

Does the rumor say who has the tell? Because I wonder if its Aneyas. I think it was an ISD pod that was talking about how the blocking was better for James than Aneyas. I think they chalked it up to the line maybe having a better understanding of where James would be.

However, Aneyas being the one with a tell would explain why the running game seems to be uniquely bad when he is in the game and somewhat better for James, even though we thought and have seen Aneyas be better running the ball than he is currently doing.

 

[RDU Irish]

Frustrating win. Offense is it's own worst enemy. Defense is the truth but we all knew Sparty's passing game was poo. Erase one hero 50 yard pass and its almost comical pass defense domination. Never really threatened IMO.

Our run game scares nobody. Looks like that has been rehashed here extensively by smarter people than me so I'll take this opportunity to rant on NBC.

What a worthless f-ing production from top to bottom. Is this our broadcast or not? FFS they glaze the other team endlessly and you can hear the hope in their voice for Sparty. They know the visiting team better and can't wait to share while they will say "number 5 made a play there" for ND. I don't know what that halftime show was but Simms and Perry should walk off if they are going to cede any airtime to that batch of theater kid looking clowns. Holy hell it should not be possible to be that noticeably bad coming off of an hour plus of Noah Eagle and Todd Blackledge. Overall beta bitch cuck chair crew from top to bottom which makes me forget how terrible Doug Flutie and Mrs. Doubtfire were. Hey let's show MSU's coach beating ND as a player and a coach at NW! How cute and fun is that! What a neato little tidbit! Hey fanbase just snubbed from the playoffs and contending for title - remember those embarrassing losses to the B1Got doormat! Maybe two humans on the planet are watching that game to hear about Pat f-ing Fitzgerald you bunch of cucks.

 

[GreenGemsOmally]

Another thought I had is I wonder if Carr is just tinkering too much. It's amazing that we've got a QB who can make those calls and checks at the line, but there were moments where I was just like BRO SNAP THE BALL GET IN A RHYTHM STOP FUSSING. Hell, a great throw over the middle / potential TD was called back because Carr was too slow to snapping the ball because of the claps and checks.

 

[PANDFAN]

LMAO, Denbrock lost his bag....jfc

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Another thought I had is I wonder if Carr is just tinkering too much. It's amazing that we've got a QB who can make those calls and checks at the line, but there were moments where I was just like BRO SNAP THE BALL GET IN A RHYTHM STOP FUSSING. Hell, a great throw over the middle / potential TD was called back because Carr was too slow to snapping the ball because of the claps and checks.

That throw was wide open touchdown, because he checked into that call lol
Yes, it was 1 second late. But Carr is the reason it was open.

 

[IrishLax]

Hard to rewatch. IDK what his one trait is.

Idk how Aneyas was so efficient as a freshman and also in limited action last year if he suddenly can't read his blocks and falls down at the line of scrimmage every time a linebacker breathes on him. Is there any explanation for this regression?

 

[RudyVerse]

Idk how Aneyas was so efficient as a freshman and also in limited action last year if he suddenly can't read his blocks and falls down at the line of scrimmage every time a linebacker breathes on him. Is there any explanation for this regression?

I think he's always had poor vision but he's always playing when the game's over and back ups are in.

There's a TD he scored I believe last year that I always remember where yes, he scored, but he read the WR block so poorly it was comical. Like never before seen bad vision. I wish I could remember the play (I'll look) but the WR has the DB completely sealed to the outside and Aneyas has a walk in. But he tries to go outside the WR/DB and nearly gets tackled.

Among having no physical traits to lean on, having poor vision is the killer.

Edit: 36 second mark.