Mo Claiborne

[irishpat183]

2012 NFL draft -- Morris Claiborne of Dallas Cowboys blew off Wonderlic test, he says - ESPN Dallas


So all you clowns that were defending him for some "learning disablity" can shove it.

He's a moron.


HA! Vidication!

 

[Praytorian]

Lets break this down real quick.

"I mean, I looked on the test and wasn't nothing on the test that came with football, so I pretty much blew the test off," Claiborne said.
Uh huh, isn't that what most people would say after they flunked, trying to sound big. Loving me some double negatives.

LSU defensive coordinator John Chavis made a point to publicly defend Claiborne's football intelligence after the Wonderlic score was reported.
He lurns football reel gud. Heck coach said hez got the chest fur it. Sides wut u think we r runnin? A skool?

Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said Claiborne's low Wonderlic score was "not an issue at all."
and
"We talk about the test scores, but we also talk about, 'What is his football IQ?' " coach Jason Garrett said.
We are not hiring rocket scientists here.

Who was it like 2 years ago the cowboys drafted from OKS, the WR? He spoke very well too, if I remember correctly.
I think it goes to show you that you don't have to be smart to play football, just futball smrt.

 

[NDinFL]

Dez Bryant

 

[Praytorian]

Thanks, thats the 1.

 

[irishog77]

I took a simulated Wonderlic last night at a Titans event. It was 25 questions and 6 minutes long. The one at the combine is 50 questions and 12 minutes. All the questions are short and easy-- meaning it's really about how fast you can read and process (you know, kind of like REAL LIFE FOOTBALL).

12 freaking minutes, Mo???!!! You couldn't invest effort and/or focus at the biggest event of your professional life....FOR 12 MINUTES??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[tussin]

No need to rip on the guy because he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Some people are born with natural intelligence, others with amazing athletic abilities. Both are God given and should be equally respected.

 

[gkIrish]

I took a simulated Wonderlic last night at a Titans event. It was 25 questions and 6 minutes long. The one at the combine is 50 questions and 12 minutes. All the questions are short and easy-- meaning it's really about how fast you can read and process (you know, kind of like REAL LIFE FOOTBALL).

12 freaking minutes, Mo???!!! You couldn't invest effort and/or focus at the biggest event of your professional life....FOR 12 MINUTES??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some people never make it to 12 minutes

 

[Praytorian]

No need to rip on the guy because he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Some people are born with natural intelligence, others with amazing athletic abilities. Both are God given and should be equally respected.

^^ Cowboys fan^^
lol J/K I have no idea if he is or not.

 

[peoriairish]

Mo's draft position was higher than his Wonderlic score...

 

[irishpat183]

My point was that this wasn't a case of him just being the victim of some learning disablity.......He's just a lazy a$$hole that only thinks he needs to do what he sees as important enough.

Wonder if he'll have the same attitude on plays that aren't on his side of field??

Again, this is the kind of stuff that I don't wanna hear outta my 1st round pick.

 

[irishpat183]

No need to rip on the guy because he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Some people are born with natural intelligence, others with amazing athletic abilities. Both are God given and should be equally respected.

Yes, there is.

He's going to make millions of dollars playing football...

And the problem isn't "natural intelligence"...it's laziness.

 

[tussin]

Yes, there is.

He's going to make millions of dollars playing football...

And the problem isn't "natural intelligence"...it's laziness.

Completely disagree. We don't rip on the corporate executives who are mostly out of shape, nonathletic, and generally lazy when it comes to personal fitness. We don't have corp execs running the 40 and doing vertical jumps before an interview. Why? Because being in shape isn't part of their job. Hell, half of this forum is likely out of shape.

The point is Mo Claiborne (and every other skill position pick) dedicated their entire life, every day to getting into world class shape. I'm not worried that he isn't taking the effing wonderlic seriously. The Wonderlic literally means nothing to him as a football player and in his professional career. I also think its completely outrageous and unfair that these scores get leaked to the public so people on the internet can rip these guys apart.

Also, as a side note, no need for you guys to rip on his interview quotes either. Objectively, our own Michael Floyd was a pretty terrible interview after he was drafted. Love him though.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Lets break this down real quick.

LSU defensive coordinator John Chavis made a point to publicly defend Claiborne's football intelligence after the Wonderlic score was reported.

He lurns football reel gud. Heck coach said hez got the chest fur it. Sides wut u think we r runnin? A skool?

This made me laugh. Reps for that.

 

[GEORGIA DOMER]

someone tell TEE he does not have to take this test!!! comeback

 

[ulukinatme]

"I mean, I looked on the test and wasn't nothing on the test that came with football, so I pretty much blew the test off"

Thats all I needed to hear. Best of luck if he gets a career ending injury.

 

[GoldenDomer87]

Completely disagree. We don't rip on the corporate executives who are mostly out of shape, nonathletic, and generally lazy when it comes to personal fitness. We don't have corp execs running the 40 and doing vertical jumps before an interview. Why? Because being in shape isn't part of their job. Hell, half of this forum is likely out of shape.

The point is Mo Claiborne (and every other skill position pick) dedicated their entire life, every day to getting into world class shape. I'm not worried that he isn't taking the effing wonderlic seriously. The Wonderlic literally means nothing to him as a football player and in his professional career. I also think its completely outrageous and unfair that these scores get leaked to the public so people on the internet can rip these guys apart.

Also, as a side note, no need for you guys to rip on his interview quotes either. Objectively, our own Michael Floyd was a pretty terrible interview after he was drafted. Love him though.

I understand what you're trying to do, but it fails. The NCAA tells us these kids are student athletes who come to get an education FIRST, then play sports. Corporate executives aren't advertised as business athletes.

 

[tussin]

I understand what you're trying to do, but it fails. The NCAA tells us these kids are student athletes who come to get an education FIRST, then play sports. Corporate executives aren't advertised as business athletes.

What? Claiborne is no longer associated with the NCAA; the NCAA has nothing to do with it. As an independent professional, he decided the Wonderlic wasn't a relevant indicator of his future success. And he was right, he doesn't have to take the test seriously because he was a former "student-athlete" as dictated by the NCAA.

Maybe give tests like the Wonderlic while the kids are actually still in school to test their intellectual growth. But in a professional setting like the NFL, the test has no relevance to most positions.

Also, I think the NCAA's refusal to accept big-time college sports for what they really are could be it's own debate topic.

 

[irishtrain]

Like Jerra says it his football IQ-hell he's been playing pro ball for 4 years by now and he's a winna. Typical SEC player. College football is no more-yep-they're pros.

 

[Folsteam_Ahead]

i fail to see the point in mocking someone based on their intelligence, especially when his performance on the test affects you in a total of zero ways. whether he took it seriously or not doesn't matter. neither does his score. it's just fish in a barrel because the test is the only way we can measure ourselves up to a stud athlete.

if the script were flipped, would you take kindly to him coming on here and mocking you for not making millions upon millions of dollars playing sports. he only has to perform well on the field.

 

[Grahambo]

We care because?

 

[NDinL.A.]

2012 NFL draft -- Morris Claiborne of Dallas Cowboys blew off Wonderlic test, he says - ESPN Dallas


So all you clowns that were defending him for some "learning disablity" can shove it.

He's a moron.


HA! Vidication!

Damn dude, you come off like an a-hole the way you speak to fellow Irish fans. No one is a 'clown' for defending him. All these 'clowns' are Irish fans, who simply share a difference of opinion. Do better next time.

 

[GoldenDomer87]

What? Claiborne is no longer associated with the NCAA; the NCAA has nothing to do with it. As an independent professional, he decided the Wonderlic wasn't a relevant indicator of his future success. And he was right, he doesn't have to take the test seriously because he was a former "student-athlete" as dictated by the NCAA.

Maybe give tests like the Wonderlic while the kids are actually still in school to test their intellectual growth. But in a professional setting like the NFL, the test has no relevance to most positions.

Also, I think the NCAA's refusal to accept big-time college sports for what they really are could be it's own debate topic.

I think you're confused about what I'm saying. I don't care what he scored or if he tried or not, I just thought your point was flawed. But, how is he no longer associated with the NCAA though? He doesn't play anymore, but when they drafted him, didn't they say CB from LSU? He will be associated to LSU (NCAA) for the rest of his life. Just because you stop doing something doesn't mean you lose its association.

 

[tussin]

I think you're confused about what I'm saying. I don't care what he scored or if he tried or not, I just thought your point was flawed. But, how is he no longer associated with the NCAA though? He doesn't play anymore, but when they drafted him, didn't they say CB from LSU? He will be associated to LSU (NCAA) for the rest of his life. Just because you stop doing something doesn't mean you lose its association.

It's because he isn't enrolled in LSU anymore, thus he currently has no association to the NCAA. I played high school sports in PA when I was younger but I don't claim to have an association to the PIAA.

Your point was that the mission statement of the NCAA has some sort of impact on why he should or shouldn't have taken the Wonderlic seriously. That opinion is flawed... not mine.

 

[irishpat183]

Damn dude, you come off like an a-hole the way you speak to fellow Irish fans. No one is a 'clown' for defending him. All these 'clowns' are Irish fans, who simply share a difference of opinion. Do better next time.

I typed that with a smile on my face....I wasn't being serious.

 

[ClausentoTate]

I think the problem people have isn't that he blew it off, but rather that he couldn't do well on a test that's one of the easiest tests you could possibly take in any profession. This isn't the SAT or even a pop quiz on anything relevant... It's almost infuriatingly simple. If the test was any indication of his intellect, the majority of this board probably was smarter in 6-7th grade than this guy is now and he almost or does have a degree from a major college.

I'm not saying ND players are rocket scientists, either. In my sophomore year stats class, the professor asked the football players in the front row if they knew how combinations/permutations worked. They said no. He gave an example, asking "If the football team has 100 players, how many combinations of 11 players can there be on the field?" and one of them (honest to god) said "100?"... The answer nearly took up the entire chalkboard. We're talking about a few pretty big notches below that on things that happen in everyday life and include no math/science/lingual skills beyond about elementary-school level.

The odds are also staggeringly low that he blew it off and just put in random answers. It's hovering around 1% (50 questions, 5 answers per, 4 correct) unless he just answered the first few answers and stopped, but why would he do that?

If the test doesn't matter, why is it taken at all? It opens these guys up for unwarranted ridicule and makes owners (I'm looking at you, Jerry) look like they don't value the student-athlete approach to college athletics. I'm kind of embarrassed to be a Cowboys fan. Drafting these guys so high up makes it easy for guys to slip through the cracks that can't read, can't write and can be taken advantage of by the league, their friends or crooks that start ponzi schemes. It should be about the players and it's not.

It's just sad on all sides.