MIT Shooting

[irishpat183]

If these 2 are actually Chechyn radical islamists... I think they forgot who the heck the real enemy is... Do they not know their history with Russia or something... just doesnt make sense. Thats why i keep thinking that maybe they were influenced by some other radical movement.

Exactly!! It doesn't make sense.

The fact that they targeted American Civilians is strange to say the least

 

[IrishJayhawk]

It seems that most organizations that carry out such attacks immediately take credit for them. That's why my totally uninformed guess is that they are more of the lone wolf category.

But I'm pretty sure that we don't know anything right now.

 

[Rhode Irish]

It seems that most organizations that carry out such attacks immediately take credit for them. That's why my totally uninformed guess is that they are more of the lone wolf category.

But I'm pretty sure that we don't know anything right now.

They also usually don't have the soldiers survive the attacks. They don't want people talking.

 

[ACamp1900]

I wouldn't be suprised one bit if these two were just young and met the wrong people/watched the wrong videos online and did the rest themselves...

 

[nlroma1o]

It seems that most organizations that carry out such attacks immediately take credit for them. That's why my totally uninformed guess is that they are more of the lone wolf category.

But I'm pretty sure that we don't know anything right now.

The last major attack here where the terroist party took credit, the leader ended up hiding in a shyte hole of compound, took a bullet between the eyes, and ended up fish food in the persian gulf somewhere.

Maybe thats why the terrorist cells arent taking credit for this.

 

[Ndaccountant]

SIAP, NBC news reporting older brother traveled outside the country in the last six months.

 

[nlroma1o]

SIAP, NBC news reporting older brother traveled outside the country in the last six months.

Now we're cookin with peanut oil...

 

[Rhode Irish]

Everything We Know About Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

This does not seem like a kid that came here focused on killing as a nine year old and spent the next ten years plotting a massacre.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

I'm leaning towards his brother was an abusive loner who brainwashed his younger brother into being a killer.

 

[nlroma1o]

So are they cops doing a controlled explosion because their house is rigged with booby traps or something?

 

[Ndaccountant]

Everything We Know About Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

This does not seem like a kid that came here focused on killing as a nine year old and spent the next ten years plotting a massacre.

Unfortunately my hunch is that the bomber worth interviewing to determine motive is already dead......

 

[IrishJayhawk]

According to the Aunt (interview on NPR), the brother was married to a devout Christian woman. They had a daughter who, I think I gleaned, was being raised Christian.

Toronto aunt of Boston bombing suspects says nephews 'innocent' - Toronto - CBC News

 

[irishfan]

But do you believe that's the case? I understand putting possibilities out there, but really? I sincerely doubt a sociopathy was the motivator here.

Agree. If they were sociopaths hell bent on committing any sort of terror, they would have just stayed in Russia and not came here.

EDIT: missed the thing about them being here since 2003.

And the thing about keeping politics out of it lol

 

[AvesEvo]

SIAP, NBC news reporting older brother traveled outside the country in the last six months.

To Russia.

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[Irishnuke]

According to the Aunt (interview on NPR), the brother was married to a devout Christian woman. They had a daughter who, I think I gleaned, was being raised Christian.

Then either she wasn't a devout Christian or he wasn't a devout Muslim.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Then either she wasn't a devout Christian or he wasn't a devout Muslim.

Maybe she didn't use the word "devout," but she did call her Christian. She described him of being very accepting of her faith.

Now seeing another article that says she may have recently converted.

1 Boston bombing suspect dead; massive manhunt for 2nd, the "white hat" suspect - CBS News

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Can we agree now that if, and when, the proper motive comes out (religiously connected, not religiously connected, etc), that we won't have any "I told you so..."

I, for one, think it's illogical to make the connection of Muslim --> bomb --> Islamic radical who was religiously motivated, but I would rather not have to deal with I told you so's later.

 

[AvesEvo]

After the car was hijacked the hostage was let go unharmed. I think that is telling that these two brothers weren't simply out to kill Americans.

 

[Irishnuke]

They're interviewing an aunt on CNN. She's crazy. Says the kids are being set up. I imagine if it were my family members I'd be hysterical too. Don't know how she can think this is a setup though.

 

[Irishnuke]

After the car was hijacked the hostage was let go unharmed. I think that is telling that these two brothers weren't simply out to kill Americans.

You serious?

 

[FLDomer]

After the car was hijacked the hostage was let go unharmed. I think that is telling that these two brothers weren't simply out to kill Americans.

No, I think the two huge ****ing bombs are pretty telling though...jmo

 

[irishpat183]

After the car was hijacked the hostage was let go unharmed. I think that is telling that these two brothers weren't simply out to kill Americans.

Just stop...seriously.

WTF do you call planting two bombs in crowds full if innocent people?

 

[irishpat183]

A source that's in the FBI counter-terrorism group that these guys likely received training from an outside group from the info that their gathering.

And the older brother had turned big time Muslim in the last few years, praying 5 times a day and everything.

They just confiscated a computer from the sisters house

 

[AvesEvo]

Just stop...seriously.

WTF do you call planting two bombs in crowds full if innocent people?

Oh I think they did that, but I'm of the opinion that they aren't radical Muslims simply out to kill Americans. I think there was something else going on. If they had wanted to kill Americans because they are Americans, why not kill the driver? This would have meant there wasn't someone that could report them.

 

[goldandblue]

Just stop...seriously.

WTF do you call planting two bombs in crowds full if innocent people?

Agreed. Wake the F up people...

 

[RuntheBall]

At this point we don't know a motive. Anything on that front is speculation for now.

For now lets just hope no one else dies, and they can apprehend the remaining suspect(s) without harm to anyone.

 

[Rhode Irish]

I think Aves point was that the bombings were political. If they were out solely to kill as many people as they could, more would be dead. That isn't really disputable, right? Obviously these are sick, terrible people and nobody is arguing differently. Just trying to understand what they thought they were doing.

 

[goldandblue]

Oh I think they did that, but I'm of the opinion that they aren't radical Muslims simply out to kill Americans. I think there was something else going on. If they had wanted to kill Americans because they are Americans, why not kill the driver? This would have meant there wasn't someone that could report them.

Maybe they were tired of killing people...

 

[AvesEvo]

I think Aves point was that the bombings were political. If they were out solely to kill as many people as they could, more would be dead. That isn't really disputable, right? Obviously these are sick, terrible people and nobody is arguing differently. Just trying to understand what they thought they were doing.

Yes.

 

[irishpat183]

I think Aves point was that the bombings were political. If they were out solely to kill as many people as they could, more would be dead. That isn't really disputable, right? Obviously these are sick, terrible people and nobody is arguing differently. Just trying to understand what they thought they were doing.

They wanted to kill as many Americans as possible. Radical Islamists hate us. And if their bombs had worked the way it was set up, it would've killed more.

And who knows why they let the driver go? But then the younger one walks up to a cop in his car and puts rounds in his head....so there goes that theory