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Respectfully I don't think you've heard everything he said. And I also don't think people who aren't part of said marginalized community gets to determine if he out others was speaking ill of said community
Didn’t you just say we have freedom of speech? We can do what we want. Stop being a hypocrite.

Dont talk about marginalized community but I can talk about your murdered community. Tell me the LGTBTQRS community is entitled without telling me. Yeesh.

We… can’t talk about… your community… that killed my community. This is entitlement and bafoonery.
 
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Didn’t you just say we have freedom of speech? We can do what we want. Stop being a hypocrite.

Dont talk about marginalized community but I can talk about your murdered community. Tell me the LGTBTQRS community is entitled without telling me. Yeesh.

We… can’t talk about… your community… that killed my community. This is entitlement and bafoonery.
Bro, shut up. Colorado, an American, some of us know them. We get it, you hate them because they say things you don’t like. But stop being a little bitch.
 

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I'm going to respectfully disagree with how you seem to view Charlie's treatment of the LGBTQ community. He didn't demonize nor talk down to them. He certainly never called for harm to them or taking away their rights. He simply disagreed with their views on several matters, and he did so civilly and respectfully.
Oh look. Bishop being completely wrong again.


He accused Target and the LGBTQ Community of attempting to groom children.

He called trans people "abominations to God"

He said trans people are making it easier for foreign countries to take us over.

He supported the execution of homosexuals under "God's Perfect Law"
 

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Bro, shut up. Colorado, an American, some of us know them. We get it, you hate them because they say things you don’t like. But stop being a little bitch.
I’m not excusing murder for speech. I’m not being the bitch that over and over and over wants to tell everyone how much they hated the speech of a dead man that got killed for his own speech. You guys look really dumb.
 

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Respectfully I don't think you've heard everything he said. And I also don't think people who aren't part of said marginalized community gets to determine if he out others was speaking ill of said community
By that logic, you don't get to take someone else's words out of context and tell the rest of what they really meant. Again, someone disagreeing with you, or finding your views or actions wrong is not assaulting you or demonizing you.
 

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By that logic, you don't get to take someone else's words out of context and tell the rest of what they really meant. Again, someone disagreeing with you, or finding your views or actions wrong is not assaulting you or demonizing you.
In his mind it’s why people get justifiably shot.
 

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By that logic, you don't get to take someone else's words out of context and tell the rest of what they really meant. Again, someone disagreeing with you, or finding your views or actions wrong is not assaulting you or demonizing you.
Again I don't think a lot of people here listened to a lot of what he said.

And I never said assault but there is definitely a lot of rhetoric that is demonizing in nature
 

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Didn’t you just say we have freedom of speech? We can do what we want.
Speech and actions aren't the same thing.
We… can’t talk about
She never said you can't talk about people. She said that your/bishop's community doesn't get to be the sole arbiter of what Kirk said being offensive or not to the LGBTQ community.
 
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In context of adults grooming kids in schools and other kid places.

He read the Bible

Political executions… that’s a start.

He read a passage in the Old Testament (old law) explaining it’s a sin.
So you agree with the horrendous shit he said.

Congrats.

You can try to "explain" it away with your bigoted bullshit, but you're just proving the point.
 

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Holy hell. I thought I already made this clear. I never once have tried to justify this. I'll say it again for the second time today, I vehemently condemn the actions. It was absolutely disgusting and no person doing what Charlie Kirk was doing should ever have to worry about being assassinated. I was only trying to give insight into why a specific group might consider the shit he said hateful.

Once again the jokes on me for trying to have a conversation.
 

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Once again the jokes on me for trying to have a conversation.
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No one (here) said the shooting was "justified".

Explaining why terrible things happen isn't "justifying" that they happen(ed).

You're about as sharp as a bowling ball.
When the explanation is “he said mean things” and not once mentioning the shooters motive screams justification.
 

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He died because of how he spoke about minority groups and he used his faith as shield to protect him from it. Calling groups of people pedophiles, groomers, errors and abominations
Let's be honest. The left and right can't stop calling each other pedophiles. It's an American tradition at this point.

And he died because some asshole couldn't tolerate different views.
 

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Many claimed the only reason Jimmy Kimmel was taken off the air by ABC is because Trump was going to take ABC off the air if they let Kimmel keep his show. Well, ABC let him keep his show. If mainstream American journalists and citizens are to be trusted, I guess Trump will be shutting down ABC any day now.
 

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Many claimed the only reason Jimmy Kimmel was taken off the air by ABC is because Trump was going to take ABC off the air if they let Kimmel keep his show. Well, ABC let him keep his show. If mainstream American journalists and citizens are to be trusted, I guess Trump will be shutting down ABC any day now.
Who is many? Never heard of her.
 

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Yes, everything is Nazis. The storm Miller talks about has nothing to do with Goebbel's "Storm." It's a reference to an unknown author, an inspirational quote. I guess Tom Brady is a Nazi too:


 

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I still say there are a lot of parallels and similar intent to incite their "party" to prepare for "war" and "vengeance"

Grok pretty much agrees https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=1970720781911884112
"The resemblances are substantiated by direct textual parallels, but they could stem from shared authoritarian rhetorical tropes rather than deliberate copying. Goebbels' speech was a staple of Nazi propaganda; Miller's aligns with modern far-right messaging amid political violence."
 

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I still say there are a lot of parallels and similar intent to incite their "party" to prepare for "war" and "vengeance"

Grok pretty much agrees https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=1970720781911884112
"The resemblances are substantiated by direct textual parallels, but they could stem from shared authoritarian rhetorical tropes rather than deliberate copying. Goebbels' speech was a staple of Nazi propaganda; Miller's aligns with modern far-right messaging amid political violence."

Grok is hardly an authority on anything. Just a month or two ago trolls exposed that the AI can be manipulated to get the answer you want based on posting patterns.
 
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