Marcus Freeman Revisited

[Jiggafini19Deux]

"He's too stoic. He's not fired up enough on the sidelines!!"

(Pivot)

"Shuler is just a college player. Freeman went angry black man on him!!"

 

[stlnd01]

"He's too stoic. He's not fired up enough on the sidelines!!"

(Pivot)

"Shuler is just a college player. Freeman went angry black man on him!!"

Do they also show the part a minute or two later where Freeman went and talked with Shuler one-on-one, tapped him on the helmet and sent him back out to the field.

Freeman handled that just fine. Shuler - who has been demonstrative all season - won’t make that mistake again, I suspect.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Do they also show the part a minute or two later where Freeman went and talked with Shuler one-on-one, tapped him on the helmet and sent him back out to the field.

Freeman handled that just fine. Shuler - who has been demonstrative all season - won’t make that mistake again, I suspect.

If you look in the replies of the tweet, the creator of the tweet acknowledges that.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

If you look in the replies of the tweet, the creator of the tweet acknowledges that.

I also wonder what the ref whispered to MF after the penalty was called…….my first thought was that maybe the Miami bench was talking smack to Adon and that triggered his reaction. That may have tempered MF’s response when talking to Adon through his hands, etc.

 

[Hautian Domer]

Do they also show the part a minute or two later where Freeman went and talked with Shuler one-on-one, tapped him on the helmet and sent him back out to the field.

Freeman handled that just fine. Shuler - who has been demonstrative all season - won’t make that mistake again, I suspect.

That was the part that pissed me off the most. I'm sure many would be fine with the sending him back out there, however, I wasn't. Not really a right or wrong choice as every coach handles things differently, but that's just a personal preference.

 

[oddz313]

That post got a thumbs up. One, but that's certainly enough.

very shameful, frankly I am not happy with the program after 94-95 ish but racist banter is no go, he would be in another world if he said these things in person

 

[calvegas04]

"He's too stoic. He's not fired up enough on the sidelines!!"

(Pivot)

"Shuler is just a college player. Freeman went angry black man on him!!"

Looks like a casual convo compared to Kelly getting angry

 

[fightingirish26]

That post got a thumbs up. One, but that's certainly enough.

From an IE staff member no less

 

[irishff1014]

The freeman we need was the freeman talking about Mickey transferring. You could hear the love and passion for that young. That’s how he needs to be with the program.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

That was the part that pissed me off the most. I'm sure many would be fine with the sending him back out there, however, I wasn't. Not really a right or wrong choice as every coach handles things differently, but that's just a personal preference.

Banishing him to the bench for the rest of the day is an old school vibe. I get it.

Shuler made a mistake. Considering all the ones this board has pointed out Freeman ever having made, seems incredibly hypocritical as well as counter productive to send Shuler to the showers for the rest of the day.

 

[EvilleIrish]

"He's too stoic. He's not fired up enough on the sidelines!!"

(Pivot)

"Shuler is just a college player. Freeman went angry black man on him!!"

But notice Shuler walking away with zero eye contact....

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

"He's too stoic. He's not fired up enough on the sidelines!!"

(Pivot)

"Shuler is just a college player. Freeman went angry black man on him!!"

To the latter, anyone who has any problem whatsoever with the way Freeman handled that didn't play football, does not know ball, and should keep their traps shut, in all honesty.

He handled that fine, and better than a lot of coaches would have. Football coaches yell. They have expectations, which they constantly preach. When a player comes up short of them, particularly for a terrible lapse in judgement like this, they're going to hear about it. It's not a meeting room or a cubicle with HR present. It's football. Fires me up to see him get on a player like that, in the moment, when he was being a bonehead.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I really have no problem with any of it. Freeman yelling at him, pulling him aside and playing him again.

 

[Irish#1]

Huh? No way you were born before 1959, maybe you just didnt take it.

I was. I took the SAT.

 

[irishff1014]

I really have no problem with any of it. Freeman yelling at him, pulling him aside and playing him again.

That’s the old school coaching. He might even have to run a few extra laps today.

 

[forkbeard3777]

"He's too stoic. He's not fired up enough on the sidelines!!"

(Pivot)

"Shuler is just a college player. Freeman went angry black man on him!!"

Good for Freeman. I love when coaches show passion.

I miss these days. All we get now is a disingenuous "banging of fist on table."

 

[oddz313]

From an IE staff member no less

I will let this go but as a catholic church member this is not good, we are better than this I hope

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I really have no problem with any of it. Freeman yelling at him, pulling him aside and playing him again.

Bingo.

 

[Irish#1]

To the latter, anyone who has any problem whatsoever with the way Freeman handled that didn't play football, does not know ball, and should keep their traps shut, in all honesty.

He handled that fine, and better than a lot of coaches would have. Football coaches yell. They have expectations, which they constantly preach. When a player comes up short of them, particularly for a terrible lapse in judgement like this, they're going to hear about it. It's not a meeting room or a cubicle with HR present. It's football. Fires me up to see him get on a player like that, in the moment, when he was being a bonehead.

He handled that just like Mr. Lou Holtz would and it was warranted. Maybe as much for Freeman as it was Shuler if you get my drift.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

I was. I took the SAT.

One room school house though, right?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

When I coached I only got intense when something positive happened. Typically in that situation, I was usually the good cop as DB coach. The HC and or DC would go absolutely crazy, then I'd put an arm around the kid and basically say "you're one big play from being his favorite again."

Never went Old Yeller on a kid because of one mistake. I was coached like that to a degree and basically hated it. Would rather kids enjoy the game while learning those life lessons people often speak of. It surely isn't all about winning and losing entirely, of course.

 

[oddz313]

One room school house though, right?

wayne community college district followed by wayne state and ND EE

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Good for Freeman. I love when coaches show passion.

There is a fine line between showing passion and "the highest paid employee in the state is acting like a complete asshat throwing a tantrum on national television." That line is often easy to cross in the heat of the moment.

Take Muschamp for example. This guy had some very high profile bites at the apple, including two SEC head coaching gigs. He's now 53 and a defensive analyst at UGA. He was known for screaming like a lunatic on the sidelines. WTF happened to this guy's career?

I'm actually all for coaches berating officials and each other. If you're screaming at a 19 year old and you're making $5M a year with a huge buyout you'll receive for being mediocre, maybe check yourself a bit.

 

[AKRowdy]

There is a fine line between showing passion and "the highest paid employee in the state is acting like a complete asshat throwing a tantrum on national television." That line is often easy to cross in the heat of the moment.

Take Muschamp for example. This guy had some very high profile bites at the apple, including two SEC head coaching gigs. He's now 53 and a defensive analyst at UGA. He was known for screaming like a lunatic on the sidelines. WTF happened to this guy's career?

I'm actually all for coaches berating officials and each other. If you're screaming at a 19 year old and you're making $5M a year with a huge buyout you'll receive for being mediocre, maybe check yourself a bit.

Could also use Saban as an example. Coach would be screaming at players even when they were up by 40+ points. He demanded excellence. There are different ways to coach people, some respond better to yelling while others respond better to pulling aside and talking to them. It goes both ways.

 

[Ndaccountant]

There is a fine line between showing passion and "the highest paid employee in the state is acting like a complete asshat throwing a tantrum on national television." That line is often easy to cross in the heat of the moment.

Take Muschamp for example. This guy had some very high profile bites at the apple, including two SEC head coaching gigs. He's now 53 and a defensive analyst at UGA. He was known for screaming like a lunatic on the sidelines. WTF happened to this guy's career?

I'm actually all for coaches berating officials and each other. If you're screaming at a 19 year old and you're making $5M a year with a huge buyout you'll receive for being mediocre, maybe check yourself a bit.

Will is still making 800k plus being said analyst. After the likely 20M+ he has earned over the last 15 years. My guess is that at people like Will gravitate to what they love most once they feel enough financial security. Why go thru all the other crap you don't like for more money that you don't need?

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Lol. Mass isn't why we were losing to Tulsa. Holtz didn't lose to Tulsa.

Holtz lost to Air Force. He wasn’t immune.

IIRC, he said the basic blueprint to maintaining success was “You beat your rivals 50%+ of the time (USC, scUM, etc.), you beat the mini-rivals 75%+ of the time (Michigan State, etc.) and you beat service academies and schedule fillers 100% of the time.”


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[Irish#1]

One room school house though, right?

I can't tell you how many times I forgot the fuel oil for my lantern. With no electricity it was tough.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Could also use Saban as an example. Coach would be screaming at players even when they were up by 40+ points. He demanded excellence. There are different ways to coach people, some respond better to yelling while others respond better to pulling aside and talking to them. It goes both ways.

I tend not to cite Saban as examples for much of anything. He's very literally the greatest college football coach of all time, most certainly of my lifetime and the modern era of college football this century. It's hard to really comp anyone to him at this point.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Will is still making 800k plus being said analyst. After the likely 20M+ he has earned over the last 15 years. My guess is that at people like Will gravitate to what they love most once they feel enough financial security. Why go thru all the other crap you don't like for more money that you don't need?

The question was WTF happened to his career?

The trajectory began while he was at Texas and was slated as the HC in waiting before the age of 40. Instead, he flipped that to getting the Florida job. Crashed out of that and was back at Auburn for a second stint as DC for one season, then lands the South Carolina job.

I'm sure he's living his best life now counting every dollar he earned going 3-5 in the SEC. I'm wondering if maybe the guy lasts a bit longer and wins a few more games by calming down a bit. That's all. I actually agree with you that at some point, you have enough money and you may as well enjoy life. Bob Stoops knew it. Walked away. He was slightly older than Muschamp is now when he did. Stoops was also a bit more calm than Muschamp was.

Certain guys have their moments. Then certain guys have lots of moments. Muschamp, to my recollection, was nuts.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

One room school house though, right?

My gymnasium was the street. They put cones out to stop traffic.