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I thought the stats made it self evident, but I will spell it out. If PPG are nearly flat, yet points per drive is down, what do you think would allow that to happen? It's either a) more drives, b) non-offensive scores.

Does that answer it for you?

Sigh...okay, I'll break it down by game just to answer this once and for all. We'll go through 10 games for last season and this season for consistency. I'm using the play-by-play breakdown from ESPN's site to tabulate:

2020 Offensive Drives
Duke - 13 drives
South Florida - 10 drives
Florida State - 12 drives
Louisville - 7 drives (Wow, super low count, 232 rushing yards and an extra 6 minutes ToP. Both teams had scoring drives that went over 7 minutes eating up a whole quarter together)
Pitt - 12 drives
GT - 10 drives
Clemson - 13 drives
BC - 12 drives
North Carolina - 12 drives
Syracuse - 15 drives
Avg drives a game: 11.6

2021 Offensive Drives
Florida State - 15 drives
Toledo - 14 drives
Purdue - 13 drives
Wisconsin - 15 drives
Cincinnati - 12 drives
VT - 13 drives
USC - 9 drives
North Carolina - 11 drives
Navy - 10 drives
Virginia - 11 drives
Avg drives a game: 12.3

So...we're seeing not even 1 extra drive per game here. Clearly .7 more drives is not enough of a change to suggest the defense is getting us a bunch of extra possessions. I think what the data is showing is we're seeing is a lot of offensive struggles in the beginning of the year that led to drives stalling, so point b.) is certainly viable. We can see after the Bye when the offense switched to tempo and we stabilized the OL a bit that we were able to utilize the running game a bit more. That likely led to longer drives and more time getting eaten up.

Bottom line, we're not seeing a substantial change in extra drives per game, so the claim the defense is generating a bunch of extra opportunities is unsubstantiated. We're not getting that many 3 and outs overall, and we're only up 3 turnovers from this point last year.
 
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Pretty good numbers against a lot of awful offenses. Still managed to give up 550+ yards and 34 to North Carolina (A team we manhandled last year when they were better offensively), 30 points to VT who has only scored more than that on Duke and Syracuse all year, nearly 30 to Toledo, 38 to FSU. I hope we've turned a corner, but we likely won't find out till bowl time because I doubt Stanford or GT gives us much trouble.

Actually the D gave up 22 to VT and Toledo. The offense threw pick 6s in each game.
 

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Sigh...okay, I'll break it down by game just to answer this once and for all. We'll go through 10 games for last season and this season for consistency. I'm using the play-by-play breakdown from ESPN's site to tabulate:

2020 Offensive Drives
Duke - 13 drives
South Florida - 10 drives
Florida State - 12 drives
Louisville - 7 drives (Wow, super low count, 232 rushing yards and an extra 6 minutes ToP. Both teams had scoring drives that went over 7 minutes eating up a whole quarter together)
Pitt - 12 drives
GT - 10 drives
Clemson - 13 drives
BC - 12 drives
North Carolina - 12 drives
Syracuse - 15 drives
Avg drives a game: 11.6

2021 Offensive Drives
Florida State - 15 drives
Toledo - 14 drives
Purdue - 13 drives
Wisconsin - 15 drives
Cincinnati - 12 drives
VT - 13 drives
USC - 9 drives
North Carolina - 11 drives
Navy - 10 drives
Virginia - 11 drives
Avg drives a game: 12.3

So...we're seeing not even 1 extra drive per game here. Clearly .7 more drives is not enough of a change to suggest the defense is getting us a bunch of extra possessions. I think what the data is showing is we're seeing is a lot of offensive struggles in the beginning of the year that led to drives stalling, so point b.) is certainly viable. We can see after the Bye when the offense switched to tempo and we stabilized the OL a bit that we were able to utilize the running game a bit more. That likely led to longer drives and more time getting eaten up.

Bottom line, we're not seeing a substantial change in extra drives per game, so the claim the defense is generating a bunch of extra opportunities is unsubstantiated. We're not getting that many 3 and outs overall, and we're only up 3 turnovers from this point last year.

So, our FEI and SP+ rankings are better than last year, the offense has gotten more drives, and we've created more turnovers than last year. Red zone D is is better. We've also had more sacks this year as well. Defensive recruiting is also ahead of the previous years. Freeman and the D haven't been perfect but I'm very pleased with his performance.
 

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So, our FEI and SP+ rankings are better than last year, the offense has gotten more drives, and we've created more turnovers than last year. Red zone D is is better. We've also had more sacks this year as well. Defensive recruiting is also ahead of the previous years. Freeman and the D haven't been perfect but I'm very pleased with his performance.

I mean...the numbers are marginally better in the turnover department and not worth mentioning when it comes to the number of drives we're getting per game. The recruiting has nothing to do with the argument. It's not like we've faced a Clemson like offense this year like we did last year. The defense has looked good against inept offenses the last two weeks, but I don't think they've passed the eye test on the whole season.
 

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I mean...the numbers are marginally better in the turnover department and not worth mentioning when it comes to the number of drives we're getting per game. The recruiting has nothing to do with the argument. It's not like we've faced a Clemson like offense this year like we did last year. The defense has looked good against inept offenses the last two weeks, but I don't think they've passed the eye test on the whole season.

That's the problem here. Freeman has been an improvement by every meaningful metric--SP+, FEI, disruption, recruiting, etc. But your "eyeball test" says otherwise. WTF are we supposed to do with that?

Everyone is bemoaning the irrationality of the Committee's eyeball test bullshit in the CFB Playoff thread, but here we're supposed to disregard all the hard evidence in Freeman's favor because "3-man front... dropping Foskey into coverage... didn't play Clemson this year.... robble robble robble."
 

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Curious as to why all the stats in which 1.0 pt difference, which is actually very tangible, are marginalized but a point per game difference of 20.5 vs 19.7 is apparently the difference along with eye test that points to Freeman might not have much longer to improve
 

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Sigh...okay, I'll break it down by game just to answer this once and for all. We'll go through 10 games for last season and this season for consistency. I'm using the play-by-play breakdown from ESPN's site to tabulate:

2020 Offensive Drives
Duke - 13 drives
South Florida - 10 drives
Florida State - 12 drives
Louisville - 7 drives (Wow, super low count, 232 rushing yards and an extra 6 minutes ToP. Both teams had scoring drives that went over 7 minutes eating up a whole quarter together)
Pitt - 12 drives
GT - 10 drives
Clemson - 13 drives
BC - 12 drives
North Carolina - 12 drives
Syracuse - 15 drives
Avg drives a game: 11.6

2021 Offensive Drives
Florida State - 15 drives
Toledo - 14 drives
Purdue - 13 drives
Wisconsin - 15 drives
Cincinnati - 12 drives
VT - 13 drives
USC - 9 drives
North Carolina - 11 drives
Navy - 10 drives
Virginia - 11 drives
Avg drives a game: 12.3

So...we're seeing not even 1 extra drive per game here. Clearly .7 more drives is not enough of a change to suggest the defense is getting us a bunch of extra possessions. I think what the data is showing is we're seeing is a lot of offensive struggles in the beginning of the year that led to drives stalling, so point b.) is certainly viable. We can see after the Bye when the offense switched to tempo and we stabilized the OL a bit that we were able to utilize the running game a bit more. That likely led to longer drives and more time getting eaten up.

Bottom line, we're not seeing a substantial change in extra drives per game, so the claim the defense is generating a bunch of extra opportunities is unsubstantiated. We're not getting that many 3 and outs overall, and we're only up 3 turnovers from this point last year.

You can actually use the statistics NDAccountant provided earlier to better compare the contribution of ND's defense to the offense than by using number of drives.

First Down Rate = number of drives in which an opponent earns at least one first down
Busted Drive Rate = number of drives in which the opponent earns zero or negative yards

Turnover Rate = number of drives that end in a turnover for the opponent

The 2020 defense allowed first downs on 66.4% of drives, allowed zero or negative yards on 11.5% of drives, and created turnovers on 13.9% of drives.

The 2021 defense has allowed first down on 60.5% of drives, allowed zero or negative yards on 16.8% of drives, and created turnovers on 15.1% of drives.

So across the board the 2021 defense has been better at stopping drives faster to get the ball back to the offense, taking away yards from teams on offense to help win the field position battle, and creating turnovers that both get the offense more possessions and often set them up in very favorable position.
 

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Sigh...okay, I'll break it down by game just to answer this once and for all. We'll go through 10 games for last season and this season for consistency. I'm using the play-by-play breakdown from ESPN's site to tabulate:

2020 Offensive Drives
Duke - 13 drives
South Florida - 10 drives
Florida State - 12 drives
Louisville - 7 drives (Wow, super low count, 232 rushing yards and an extra 6 minutes ToP. Both teams had scoring drives that went over 7 minutes eating up a whole quarter together)
Pitt - 12 drives
GT - 10 drives
Clemson - 13 drives
BC - 12 drives
North Carolina - 12 drives
Syracuse - 15 drives
Avg drives a game: 11.6

2021 Offensive Drives
Florida State - 15 drives
Toledo - 14 drives
Purdue - 13 drives
Wisconsin - 15 drives
Cincinnati - 12 drives
VT - 13 drives
USC - 9 drives
North Carolina - 11 drives
Navy - 10 drives
Virginia - 11 drives
Avg drives a game: 12.3

So...we're seeing not even 1 extra drive per game here. Clearly .7 more drives is not enough of a change to suggest the defense is getting us a bunch of extra possessions. I think what the data is showing is we're seeing is a lot of offensive struggles in the beginning of the year that led to drives stalling, so point b.) is certainly viable. We can see after the Bye when the offense switched to tempo and we stabilized the OL a bit that we were able to utilize the running game a bit more. That likely led to longer drives and more time getting eaten up.

Bottom line, we're not seeing a substantial change in extra drives per game, so the claim the defense is generating a bunch of extra opportunities is unsubstantiated. We're not getting that many 3 and outs overall, and we're only up 3 turnovers from this point last year.

Let's do some math here.

ND has scored 323 points thus far. 21 points have come from non-offensive TD's. That leaves us with 302 offensive points. So, 30.2 offensive points per game.

Per your math above, 0.7 extra drives per game. Also stated in previous point's, ND is scoring 2.55 net offensive points per drive. So, per game, that results in 1.8 points per game. So that results in a 6% increase in offense scoring (1.8 / (30.2 - 1.8)). Now, people might say 6%, big deal. But two things to consider...1) that is an improvement from a defense that was already top notch. 2) ND's offense is not as strong as last year on a per drive basis. Once the offense does improve, the benefit of this only increases.

Now, for those like me who wondered, Freeman's defense's net points allowed per drive is 1.60 and overall touchdown rate (TD's allowed / drives) is .168. 2020 ended at 1.73 and .197. 2019 was 1.34 and .145. 2018 was 1.4 and .164, 2017 was 1.61 and .193.

So to summarize, 2021 performance thus far ranks in the middle in terms of net points allowed per drive (3 of 5) since Elko/Lea, overall touchdown rate is 2nd out of the 5 years. Meanwhile, defensive first down rate, busted drive rate and turnover rate are all better across the board (clean sweep) versus 2020, 2018 and 2017. 2019's defense was .005 better in FDR, .004 better in BDR, .008 in TO rate. It's possible that by year end those could turn in favor of 2021 as well. The other years really aren't that close.

So, we are not really "falling backwards" on points per drive allowed or TD rate; clearly moving forward on improved FDR, BDR and TOR. All of this with an injury ravaged defense and a LB core that is incredibly weak compared to past 4-5 years. I can sure as hell guarantee you that if you asked a college HC is he would take a 6% increase in scoring without noticeably giving up more points on a per drive basis, he would sign up immediately. I would call that a success no matter what our "eyes" tell us.
 

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Let's do some math here.

ND has scored 323 points thus far. 21 points have come from non-offensive TD's. That leaves us with 302 offensive points. So, 30.2 offensive points per game.

Per your math above, 0.7 extra drives per game. Also stated in previous point's, ND is scoring 2.55 net offensive points per drive. So, per game, that results in 1.8 points per game. So that results in a 6% increase in offense scoring (1.8 / (30.2 - 1.8)). Now, people might say 6%, big deal. But two things to consider...1) that is an improvement from a defense that was already top notch. 2) ND's offense is not as strong as last year on a per drive basis. Once the offense does improve, the benefit of this only increases.

Now, for those like me who wondered, Freeman's defense's net points allowed per drive is 1.60 and overall touchdown rate (TD's allowed / drives) is .168. 2020 ended at 1.73 and .197. 2019 was 1.34 and .145. 2018 was 1.4 and .164, 2017 was 1.61 and .193.

So to summarize, 2021 performance thus far ranks in the middle in terms of net points allowed per drive (3 of 5) since Elko/Lea, overall touchdown rate is 2nd out of the 5 years. Meanwhile, defensive first down rate, busted drive rate and turnover rate are all better across the board (clean sweep) versus 2020, 2018 and 2017. 2019's defense was .005 better in FDR, .004 better in BDR, .008 in TO rate. It's possible that by year end those could turn in favor of 2021 as well. The other years really aren't that close.

So, we are not really "falling backwards" on points per drive allowed or TD rate; clearly moving forward on improved FDR, BDR and TOR. All of this with an injury ravaged defense and a LB core that is incredibly weak compared to past 4-5 years. I can sure as hell guarantee you that if you asked a college HC is he would take a 6% increase in scoring without noticeably giving up more points on a per drive basis, he would sign up immediately. I would call that a success no matter what our "eyes" tell us.

Yeah, the numbers look a lot better after the Navy and Virginia games. We played a team in the Midshipmen that ranked 263rd in the country in points scored per game, and the Cavaliers were obviously lost without their starting QB. Before those two games we were giving up an average of 24.5 points per game, and now it's dropped down about 6 points due to those inept offenses. It's hard to say Freeman was the cause of that improvement, you almost have to throw those games out as they're categorically out of place. We were giving up 19 1/2 last year and that was with playing Clemson twice and an Alabama. We haven't faced any offenses even remotely as good this year.

This whole thing is kind of moot though, and the goal posts keep moving. I'll give Freeman the benefit of the doubt if the defense has truly turned the corner and finishes the year out strong. I still have a feeling we're going to struggle against a decent offense in a big bowl. This whole discussion began because you tried to make a point that "Tommy's success is coming, in part, because of all the extra drives Freeman has been able to provide." I've proven that this statement is patently false as we're effectively getting the same number of drives regardless in the change in scheme. He may be contributing other factors like field position that are helping the offense out, but if we're seeing basically the same number of possessions per game he's certainly not providing a bunch of "extra drives."
 

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Marcus Freeman was hired not to merely replicate success of Elko and Lea.

He was hired to retool.

The bend but don't break defenses were wonderful for a 12-0 regular season, but against the offenses you see in playoffs, those teams are capable of bleeding you to death.

Just look at the slow bleeds Clemson put on us in Charlotte and Bama in the playoff.

those teams are SO good that they can grind for 75 yards in 12 plays and not make a turnover or penalty or costly mistake.

You win no championships for "We really made their offense work!!"

Freeman, again, was hired to retool, not to out Elko Elko or out Lea Lea.

The defense is more aggressive, high risk and is designed to disrupt two or three drives in a playoff game giving ND a chance to outscore an opponent. That is how these big games go.

Kelly knew this and has articulated the design difference.

The second retooling is the high risk venture into the 3-3-5.

So there is a plan, but it is just aborning. The verdict is premature now, but can be rendered after year two or year three.
Speaking of year three, that is the year when our regular season opponents include Clemson USC (which may have been Lazarus'd by then) and Ohio State.

That is the Final Exam. 2021 is just a pop quiz.
 

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That's the problem here. Freeman has been an improvement by every meaningful metric--SP+, FEI, disruption, recruiting, etc. But your "eyeball test" says otherwise. WTF are we supposed to do with that?

Everyone is bemoaning the irrationality of the Committee's eyeball test bullshit in the CFB Playoff thread, but here we're supposed to disregard all the hard evidence in Freeman's favor because "3-man front... dropping Foskey into coverage... didn't play Clemson this year.... robble robble robble."

Dale said:
Curious as to why all the stats in which 1.0 pt difference, which is actually very tangible, are marginalized but a point per game difference of 20.5 vs 19.7 is apparently the difference along with eye test that points to Freeman might not have much longer to improve

It's kind of hard to hang your hat on the defense when two weeks ago they were giving up an extra TD a game compared to last year, and we certainly haven't faced any offenses like Alabama or Clemson in 2021. I mentioned it above, but how much of the improved numbers are a result of Navy's struggles and Virginia being unable to field a ready backup? How much can be attributed to improvements under Freeman? One team didn't even get 200 yards of offense, and the other fielded a QB with a 28.6 QBR. The only game that was such an outlier like that in 2020 was the Louisville game where both teams struggled greatly offensively leading to an incredibly low 7 possession game for us and two 7 minute drives for each team that ate up an entire quarter.

Credit Freeman for executing against a couple turds, but Navy has squeaked out 2 wins all year and is the bottom of the barrel in points scored per game. They haven't been this bad in decades. Meanwhile Virginia trotted out a backup quarterback that had the same performance rating as Nate Montana in the 2010 Michigan game. Forgive me if I'm not impressed yet.
 

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It's kind of hard to hang your hat on the defense when two weeks ago they were giving up an extra TD a game compared to last year, and we certainly haven't faced any offenses like Alabama or Clemson in 2021. I mentioned it above, but how much of the improved numbers are a result of Navy's struggles and Virginia being unable to field a ready backup? How much can be attributed to improvements under Freeman? One team didn't even get 200 yards of offense, and the other fielded a QB with a 28.6 QBR. The only game that was such an outlier like that in 2020 was the Louisville game where both teams struggled greatly offensively leading to an incredibly low 7 possession game for us and two 7 minute drives for each team that ate up an entire quarter.

Credit Freeman for executing against a couple turds, but Navy has squeaked out 2 wins all year and is the bottom of the barrel in points scored per game. They haven't been this bad in decades. Meanwhile Virginia trotted out a backup quarterback that had the same performance rating as Nate Montana in the 2010 Michigan game. Forgive me if I'm not impressed yet.

Navy this year ranks 92nd in overall offensive efficiency in FEI. Toledo is #99, those are the only 2 that currently rank #75 or worse that we have played.

Last year ND faced Alabama and others, like you mentioned. But ND faced #125 ranked Syracuse, #114 ranked Duke, #108 South Florida, #99 Pittsburgh, #95 Florida State and #92 GT.
 

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Yeah, the numbers look a lot better after the Navy and Virginia games. We played a team in the Midshipmen that ranked 263rd in the country in points scored per game, and the Cavaliers were obviously lost without their starting QB. Before those two games we were giving up an average of 24.5 points per game, and now it's dropped down about 6 points due to those inept offenses. It's hard to say Freeman was the cause of that improvement, you almost have to throw those games out as they're categorically out of place. We were giving up 19 1/2 last year and that was with playing Clemson twice and an Alabama. We haven't faced any offenses even remotely as good this year.

This whole thing is kind of moot though, and the goal posts keep moving. I'll give Freeman the benefit of the doubt if the defense has truly turned the corner and finishes the year out strong. I still have a feeling we're going to struggle against a decent offense in a big bowl. This whole discussion began because you tried to make a point that "Tommy's success is coming, in part, because of all the extra drives Freeman has been able to provide." I've proven that this statement is patently false as we're effectively getting the same number of drives regardless in the change in scheme. He may be contributing other factors like field position that are helping the offense out, but if we're seeing basically the same number of possessions per game he's certainly not providing a bunch of "extra drives."

So 6% improvement in scoring based on performance to date of points per drive scored isn't adding to success?
 

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in a non-lea vs freeman viewpoint on the defense this year vs last.

Let's say we make the playoffs again this year and you get the choice to have this years defense or last years defense. I think I choose last years if for nothing else the roster and the health it had vs current roster and the health it has.

last years roster coached by Freeman would be interesting thought as well.

which brings me to if were talking about small margins of improvement/difference between the two defenses statistically, and you would agree that last years roster was better, then isnt Freeman doing the better job? Same if not better statistically with an inferior talent base?

Just a thought.
 

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It's kind of hard to hang your hat on the defense when two weeks ago they were giving up an extra TD a game compared to last year, and we certainly haven't faced any offenses like Alabama or Clemson in 2021. I mentioned it above, but how much of the improved numbers are a result of Navy's struggles and Virginia being unable to field a ready backup? How much can be attributed to improvements under Freeman? One team didn't even get 200 yards of offense, and the other fielded a QB with a 28.6 QBR. The only game that was such an outlier like that in 2020 was the Louisville game where both teams struggled greatly offensively leading to an incredibly low 7 possession game for us and two 7 minute drives for each team that ate up an entire quarter.

Credit Freeman for executing against a couple turds, but Navy has squeaked out 2 wins all year and is the bottom of the barrel in points scored per game. They haven't been this bad in decades. Meanwhile Virginia trotted out a backup quarterback that had the same performance rating as Nate Montana in the 2010 Michigan game. Forgive me if I'm not impressed yet.

and there it is. The folks jumped on Freeman after USC/UNC which we KNEW were going to score and had the better offenses we were facing this year because that timing was convenient and now citing those same exact #s is inconvenient. Citing problems offensively w/ Navy and Virginia is completely irrelevant in a comparison to last year given the 2020 schedule. Apparently even given all of that literally not giving up a TD doesn’t impress Ulukinatme
 

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and there it is. The folks jumped on Freeman after USC/UNC which we KNEW were going to score and had the better offenses we were facing this year because that timing was convenient and now citing those same exact #s is inconvenient. Citing problems offensively w/ Navy and Virginia is completely irrelevant in a comparison to last year given the 2020 schedule. Apparently even given all of that literally not giving up a TD doesn’t impress Ulukinatme

Well he doesn’t like Metroid Dread either so yeah,… no making him happy
 

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It's amazing that the temp check on Marcus Freeman among this fan base is everything from being a Power Five Head Coach by December to "meh".

I think it's par for the course in the end.
 

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and there it is. The folks jumped on Freeman after USC/UNC which we KNEW were going to score and had the better offenses we were facing this year because that timing was convenient and now citing those same exact #s is inconvenient. Citing problems offensively w/ Navy and Virginia is completely irrelevant in a comparison to last year given the 2020 schedule. Apparently even given all of that literally not giving up a TD doesn’t impress Ulukinatme


You gotta sort of admire someone who digs in and only looks for shovels.
 

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So 6% improvement in scoring based on performance to date of points per drive scored isn't adding to success?

Nah. I don't see why I should give you the 6% when you won't admit you were wrong about Freeman providing us a bunch of extra drives. It's not like those possible 1.8 extra PPG would have flipped the outcome of any games this year anyway.
 
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Nah. I don't see why I should give you the 6% when you won't admit you were wrong about Freeman providing us a bunch of extra drives. It's not like those possible 1.8 extra PPG would have flipped the outcome of any games this year anyway.

FSU? Toledo? Virginia Tech?
 

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Take away 1.8 points, we still win those games. Keep in mind though that the premise is Freeman is generating a bunch of extra possessions for the offense when in fact we're seeing closer to half an extra possession per game. It's not really noteworthy and doesn't take into consideration how much we were passing at the start of the season which ate up less clock.

Honestly the biggest outlier ends up being Louisville as it was a cluster fuck last year where we got half as many drives as we typically get in a game. Without that game we end up with the same number of possessions this year as we had last year.
 

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Take away 1.8 points, we still win those games. Keep in mind though that the premise is Freeman is generating a bunch of extra possessions for the offense when in fact we're seeing closer to half an extra possession per game. It's not really noteworthy and doesn't take into consideration how much we were passing at the start of the season which ate up less clock.

Honestly the biggest outlier ends up being Louisville as it was a cluster fuck last year where we got half as many drives as we typically get in a game. Without that game we end up with the same number of possessions this year as we had last year.


We’ve also gotten more 3 and outs (both overall and by percentage) this year than last.
 

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Since Hamilton took over as his assistant it has been a lock down.
 
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