Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

[INLaw]

UA day late and dollar short. So fucking on brand

 

[pumpdog20]

UA day late and dollar short. So fucking on brand

The collection is fucking trash anyways. They didn't release anything he wears.

 

[forkbeard3777]

The collection is fucking trash anyways. They didn't release anything he wears.

I thought the same

 

[NDMatt91]

UA day late and dollar short. So fucking on brand

It’s totally fine. What really matters is that Jack helped out the company that his son worked for.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Freeman throwing assistant coaches under the bus sends a clear signal to not only the players but the assistant coaches both current and prospective, so I'm glad he's not doing it publicly in these pressers. Behind closed doors, people gotta get chewed out. That's different, though. If I'm an assistant coach out there with an eye on Notre Dame and I see Marcus Freeman push a defensive coach over the cliff for having ten players on the field or call out play calling, then I know exactly what I'd be getting into if I decide to go work for that guy. Protect the players and protect your assistants. Absorb the blowback and carry the shit because you're the head coach.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Freeman throwing assistant coaches under the bus sends a clear signal to not only the players but the assistant coaches both current and prospective, so I'm glad he's not doing it publicly in these pressers. Behind closed doors, people gotta get chewed out. That's different, though. If I'm an assistant coach out there with an eye on Notre Dame and I see Marcus Freeman push a defensive coach over the cliff for having ten players on the field or call out play calling, then I know exactly what I'd be getting into if I decide to go work for that guy. Protect the players and protect your assistants. Absorb the blowback and carry the shit because you're the head coach.

agree 100% but there needed to be improvements from coaching and execution from OSU to Duke with our clear abomination of a finish vs OSU

It didn't happen

Offense was terrible vs duke, defense didn't adjust and started getting worked the second half vs duke

After the duke game the offense should have worked to make significant improvements and the defense needed to figure out how to play better the second half and counter adjustments. Short yardage and 3rd downs were a big issue that needed worked on.

Offense was even worse all game vs Louisville and the Defense was absolutely pathetic in the second half. yes they were put in some bad spots later on but still. Here's the crazy stat of the game. After Louisville fumbled on their first possession of the second half, they scored on their next 6 posessions. Frichan louisville scored on 6 straight possessions, are you kidding me. Their first 3 scoring drives of the second half were 50 yards or more on each one, pathetic. Then freeman and the offense went full moron and gave short fields for louisville to just run it 3 times and kick a fg.

The point of all this. Whatever freeman is or isn't doing is NOT working. Coaching results and money talk. These assistant coaches are confident people, they aren't going to be like "oh crap freeman fired parker mid season, i don't want to go there". What they'll realize is freeman realized he made an awful hire, parker did terrible with very good talent, and freeman represents notre dame and the entire product on the field and had to make a move. You don't have to publicly humiliate parker, but you should demote him or let him go professionally. The same thing happened with BVG 1.5 years late. ND got an insanely big upgrade with elko and elko brought clark with him. Right now Freeman and Jack and the new AD should be talking with representation of people they want to interview. It's not parker, everyone knows this but maybe freeman. Let parker make the choice to be at ND and coach TEs, or give him $500k and let him pack his bags. If you let parker go right now, representation would be calling jack like crazy for an opportunity to interview for the ND OC job.

 

[Irish#1]

Freeman throwing assistant coaches under the bus sends a clear signal to not only the players but the assistant coaches both current and prospective, so I'm glad he's not doing it publicly in these pressers. Behind closed doors, people gotta get chewed out. That's different, though. If I'm an assistant coach out there with an eye on Notre Dame and I see Marcus Freeman push a defensive coach over the cliff for having ten players on the field or call out play calling, then I know exactly what I'd be getting into if I decide to go work for that guy. Protect the players and protect your assistants. Absorb the blowback and carry the shit because you're the head coach.

This. Also fans bitching and moaning because MF didn't answer PC questions to their liking. lol

 

[PutuporShutup]

This. Also fans bitching and moaning because MF didn't answer PC questions to their liking. lol

Reminds me of 2016 level coaching. People defending kelly for not blaming BVG, then finally jack forced kelly to fire BVG and improvements begun. Same thing here.

People aren't pissed that freeman didn't answer questions the way most want, we all knew he wouldn't. It's an opportunity to complain again about what WE all know. Parker was a terrible hire, is doing a terrible job, and he should be demoted immediately allowing for a national search to begin.

 

[Terry Jillery]

Freeman throwing assistant coaches under the bus sends a clear signal to not only the players but the assistant coaches both current and prospective, so I'm glad he's not doing it publicly in these pressers. Behind closed doors, people gotta get chewed out. That's different, though. If I'm an assistant coach out there with an eye on Notre Dame and I see Marcus Freeman push a defensive coach over the cliff for having ten players on the field or call out play calling, then I know exactly what I'd be getting into if I decide to go work for that guy. Protect the players and protect your assistants. Absorb the blowback and carry the shit because you're the head coach.

Agree. I do think he has to balance this with perception as reality, however. He and others may not think the perception of the fan base matters, but it certainly does. It’s the stadium boos, game day signs, angry donors and alum, rippings on social media by fans, less merchandise sales of the “freeman line”, lower priced tickets for USC, marshmallows thrown at the players (I witnessed that from the stands years ago), etc etc. that gets into recruits ears, hits pocket books, pressures the admin, and ultimately gets coaches canned. I don’t know for certain where the fans stand, but I’d guess it’s about 90% that want Parker out. Things are already ugly, a big loss to USC and to many fans, the sky is falling.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Agree. I do think he has to balance this with perception as reality, however. He and others may not think the perception of the fan base matters, but it certainly does. It’s the stadium boos, game day signs, angry donors and alum, rippings on social media by fans, less merchandise sales of the “freeman line”, lower priced tickets for USC, marshmallows thrown at the players (I witnessed that from the stands years ago), etc etc. that gets into recruits ears, hits pocket books, pressures the admin, and ultimately gets coaches canned.

I think there's a lag for those effects. If fans lose their enthusiasm for the program's direction it won't be apparent until they start trying to sell the 2024 tickets. Speaking of which, the 2024 home slate is:

Northern Illinois
Miami - Ohio
Louisville
Stanford
Florida State
Virginia

If things continue there are potentially going to be zero sellouts next season. I'm not sure if an 8(ish) win 2023 team which turns into a 2024 team having multiple losses by the FSU game will sell it out.

OTOH, that's a REALLY manageable schedule next year if Notre Dame can get its shit in order and win that Texas A&M opener.

 

[Lberry]

Reminds me of 2016 level coaching. People defending kelly for not blaming BVG, then finally jack forced kelly to fire BVG and improvements begun. Same thing here.

People aren't pissed that freeman didn't answer questions the way most want, we all knew he wouldn't. It's an opportunity to complain again about what WE all know. Parker was a terrible hire, is doing a terrible job, and he should be demoted immediately allowing for a national search to begin.

Being 1st in line for a long, national search is an elite move. Timing is more important than ppl realize.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Being 1st in line for a long, national search is an elite move. Timing is more important than ppl realize.

Yep, it's why we got hartman. Freeman made a great move to say, hey, i'm letting the college world know, we're looking for a portal QB right after season ended. He didn't wait until after the bowl game like most teams did. You know that would put you at risk of losing someone quickly, and we did lose pyne right away. Great move by freeman there, need to do it again!

Thinking about it more. He frichan told the ND team right when the season ended we don't have a QB on our roster we're confident we can win with. Think about how big of a blast that is to buchner and pyne. So all those saying he shouldn't publicly talk negatively about parker, he absolutely can state we are going after a new OC. He did it with the QB position. Waiting is the mistake.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Louisville at home in 2024? Oh my, I can't wait for the litany of "revenge" posts that are coming.

When the money stops rolling in, I think that's when people start to panic and people get fired. The revenue streams are going to have to be really disrupted for this administration to make any changes.

 

[NDdomer2]

i feel like in the nfl if they are having to tell people your job is safe mid season then your job is likely not safe at all.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

If Freeman wants to make a change at OC, he should have options available to him. It's still Notre Dame.

Still about half of the season left to play. See what happens. Remain in contact with recruits and let them know they're needed. Hopefully they have admins in the football office keeping tabs on guys for the portal and such.

 

[PutuporShutup]

If Freeman wants to make a change at OC, he should have options available to him. It's still Notre Dame.

Still about half of the season left to play. See what happens. Remain in contact with recruits and let them know they're needed. Hopefully they have admins in the football office keeping tabs on guys for the portal and such.

Yeah, if they show improvement, great, but if i'm a QB or WR recruit i'm wanting to know what the offensive plan is for when i'm coming or why i should come. I expected this year our passing game to take off, nope.

 

[stlnd01]

Being 1st in line for a long, national search is an elite move. Timing is more important than ppl realize.

Timing is also how we got stuck with Parker. We were at the back of the line in last year’s OC cycle.

 

[Pete]

If Freeman wants to make a change at OC, he should have options available to him. It's still Notre Dame.

Still about half of the season left to play. See what happens. Remain in contact with recruits and let them know they're needed. Hopefully they have admins in the football office keeping tabs on guys for the portal and such.

Unless that replacement has a 400g buyout, that’s to much.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Unless that replacement has a 400g buyout, that’s to much.

So if they did a Sean Lewis type hire, Jason Candle's buyout with Toledo is $750K if ND wanted to hire him as OC. So the answer there is probably no.

Tim Lester was an OC at Syracuse and was an HC at WMU with a winning record. He's an analyst for the Packers right now. So that probably works better.

Tee Martin, Mike Shula or someone like that from the NFL probably costs you nothing also.

They need to get through the season and reassess. I personally think an OC hire like Al Golden would be great for Freeman, and it's surely part of why Freeman chose Ludwig initially. There are five more games left to let Parker and Hartman play out. See where you end up, get a bowl, secure your recruiting class in December and go from there.

Right now they need to figure out how to put up points on SC because their defense is certainly susceptible.

 

[Luckylucci]

Some hardcore FreemanEra copium up in here.

He's got the best gig in sports. Always, someone else's fault.

 

[ThePiombino]

Timing is also how we got stuck with Parker. We were at the back of the line in last year’s OC cycle.

That was 100% on Jack and the admin. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise. Ludwig was coming until ND stuck a stick in its own wheels...

 

[NDWarrior]

But is there a action MFMF can take now before a potential OC change later this year like bringing in someone who could advise but also who is not currently employed (why I think we mentioned Scott Frost despite what many think of him); then if it still falls apart, we still make the OC fire and hire after the season ends. It would be a shame to continue as is and potentially see the season tank.

 

[Luckylucci]

I think he has to get Gino involved in the passing game. Make him passing game coordinator or whatever fun stuff they do with titles.

 

[ThePiombino]

But is there a action MFMF can take now before a potential OC change later this year like bringing in someone who could advise but also who is not currently employed (why I think we mentioned Scott Frost despite what many think of him); then if it still falls apart, we still make the OC fire and hire after the season ends. It would be a shame to continue as is and potentially see the season tank.

I blame the admin for not landing Ludwig, but it's Freeman's fault for not having a better support system in place on offense. If he didn't hire an experienced OC, then he 100% should have hired an experienced analyst. How many total years of OC experience exists on the staff right now? Two or three including the QB coach? Brutal.

 

[Giddyup]

But is there a action MFMF can take now before a potential OC change later this year like bringing in someone who could advise but also who is not currently employed (why I think we mentioned Scott Frost despite what many think of him); then if it still falls apart, we still make the OC fire and hire after the season ends. It would be a shame to continue as is and potentially see the season tank.

Yeah Freeman can use his infinite offensive knowledge and fix the offense. For all his success, Kelly was/is a hell of a coach and could usually coach up the coaches mid stream.

 

[Lberry]

I blame the admin for not having Ludwig, but it's Freeman's fault for not having a better support system in place on offense. If he didn't hire an experienced OC, then he 100% should have hired an experienced analyst. How many total years of OC experience exists on the staff right now? Two or three including the QB coach? Brutal.

I mean, MF probably thought (after Ludwig was gone) that keeping the playbook the players already knew coupled with a new QB-only coach was best for 2023. Hindsight is always 2020 but I see why he did it if he believed in Porker.

If we hired an experienced OC, it's a playbook change and MF probably saw that as a risk too. Just playing (Freeman) advocate lol.

 

[Giddyup]

One of the legitimate perks of having an experienced and tested HC.

 

[ThePiombino]

I mean, MF probably thought (after Ludwig was gone) that keeping the playbook the players already knew coupled with a new QB-only coach was best for 2023. Hindsight is always 2020 but I see why he did it if he believed in Porker.

If we hired an experienced OC, it's a playbook change and MF probably saw that as a risk too. Just playing (Freeman) advocate lol.

And again, that's fine. I understand the reasoning there, even though I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. However, if you're going to elevate someone with little to no experience at such a critical position, why was there no additional support staff brought in? Someone for him to bounce ideas off of or someone to self-scout, since this staff seemingly is incapable of doing so.

 

[notredomer23]

I do wonder where this team would be if Freeman hired the offensive coordinator version of Al Golden. I think it’s what he needed more than anything last year. That’s not to rehash old debates about Tommy, that situation is what it is.

And by that I don’t mean Ludwig, but a former HC with extensive OC experience. Not sure who that person is, but gotta be one out there

 

[ThePiombino]

I do wonder where this team would be if Freeman hired the offensive coordinator version of Al Golden. I think it’s what he needed more than anything last year. That’s not to rehash old debates about Tommy, that situation is what it is.

He tried. The admin tripped over itself in the process. So here we are. As to where we'd be? 6-1 at worst, but likely 7-0 and on the fast track to a CFP appearance.