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[Jason Pham]

I have faith in Phammer ...


(it doesn't matter that he's from the Weis era)

I'm coming along.

 

[TerryTate]

Banners look good my man

 

[Pachuco]

Thanks for doing this. Looking good so far.

PS. Where's Manti?

 

[Pachuco]

There we go!

 

[BeauBenken]

I was just about to say that it looked like the banners had been renewed. Good job Pham man.

Still see some old ones, but the new ones look great.

 

[NDdomer2]

Liking the new banners. Nice job Pham.

 

[GreatGolson]

thread win

 

[Damion704]

Lets get a pic of those new helmets up there.. thanks

 

[RallySonsOfND]

Banners look good!

 

[UmphreakDomer]

loving the new eye candy. girlfriend just got a new victoria's secret catalog.
banners are cool too.

 

[KPENN]

Nice job it looks great

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Thank you Phammer and the supporting cast of millions that updated the Banners. They look great. Go Irish.

 

[greyhammer90]

Although I have already said it on another post, I will say that these are just really fantastic. Just one of the things that makes me happy to post here and (hopefully) contribute. Bravo mods and site designers.

 

[NDdomer2]

The Knute one looking like a mafia boss is sick.

 

[BGIF]

What do I think of the New Banners?

What do I think of the New Banners?

Borrowing a quote Greyhammer90 from the OWS thread

 

[BGIF]

The Knute one looking like a mafia boss is sick.

Capone got the idea from Rockne. He always wanted to be as big as The Rock.





(instead he ended up living on The Rock.)

 

[military_irish]

Capone got the idea from Rockne. He always wanted to be as big as The Rock.





(instead he ended up living on The Rock.)

....and died.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Bad ***.

 

[greyhammer90]

Borrowing a quote Greyhammer90 from the OWS thread

First time I've been quoted for the sake of it. Honored sir.

 

[Rocket89]

New look is great guys!!

 

[BobD]

The new banners look great!

one small comment....the one with TDJ on the right is maybe just a little too blurry?

 

[Old Man Mike]

I may not have seen the relevant banner yet, but the oldtime one that I have seen is not Knute Rockne looking like Al Capone. The one I've seen is of my Dad's old roommate Moose Krause, with Frank Leahy barely visible at the left. If this is not the banner others have referred to, I apologize for my error.


p.s. The only certain great player that I recognize in the picture is #8 Frank Tripucka our Quarterback. Standing just in front and partially blocking him is a powerful looking beast, who I think was our All-American center Jerry Groom. Unfortunately, neither the two legendary monsters of the team, Leon Hart and Jungle Jim Martin, are in the photo to my eye. The other tall guy standing behind Leahy is, rather, Bill Wightkin, a great two-way end who played for the Bears, I believe. [He's only viewable when you have the whole picture intact]

 

[BGIF]

I may not have seen the relevant banner yet, but the oldtime one that I have seen is not Knute Rockne looking like Al Capone. The one I've seen is of my Dad's old roommate Moose Krause, with Frank Leahy barely visible at the left. If this is not the banner others have referred to, I apologize for my error.


p.s. The only certain great player that I recognize in the picture is #8 Frank Tripucka our Quarterback. Standing just in front and partially blocking him is a powerful looking beast, who I think was our All-American center Jerry Groom. Unfortunately, neither the two legendary monsters of the team, Leon Hart and Jungle Jim Martin, are in the photo to my eye. The other tall guy standing behind Leahy is, rather, Bill Wightkin, a great two-way end who played for the Bears, I believe. [He's only viewable when you have the whole picture intact]

Mike, I agree on Leahy, Tripucka, and the mouth line looks like Moose's. I thinking the big guy in the middle was The Big Guy Leon Hart, #82. Is Wightkin standing to Leahy left or right? Wightkin wore #83 and I can't see a # 83. I can only see a tall, thin faced guy to Leahy's left who looks to be wearing #29. The 9 is clear, I guessing at the 2.

There's a short guy #34 between Tripucka and Moose. I found a #46 Paul Limont on the '46 roster but he's listed at 6-2. Tripucka was 6-2 and this #34 looks a lot shorter. I didn't find a #29 or #64 on the '46 roster, (the '45 roster I looked at only had about a half dozen jersey numbers). The '47 roster has a #64 Gaspar Urban but he looks to be about 25 years old (or older) in the team photo. He has a badly receding hairline which doesn't jive with the #64 (full hairline) in the banner photo. The '48 roster has a #29 Jim Dailer, 5-9, 185 but the #29 without a helmet in the banner looks to be as tall as Tripucka with a helmet. The '48 roster also has a #34 Tom Saggau, 6-0, 177 but no #64 on the roster.

#64 has the face, hair cut, and hair line of Paul Burns in the '49 team photo but he played '49-'51 while Tripucka was '45 -'48 so they shouldn't be in the same team photo.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Yep. All of this is mysterious to me without a better source of information. All I'm REALLY ready to believe though [conditionally] is that this is a 1948 photo containing Leahy

and Krause

. This picture to me is precisely Moose Krause [plus he's BIG --- Krause was a tall 6'5"+, as big or bigger than Hart, an absolute monster for that early 1930s age]. This is the way the Notre Dame site labeled the picture.

The reason that I say Groom is standing in front of Tripucka [positioned sideways to the camera] is that he is another true monster [6'3", 236] given the time p[eriod, and he looks like Groom in the face. Hart was huge but a cleaner cut looking person. I picked Wightkin for the guy behind Leahy [to our left in a helmet], because that guy is tall [c.6'3 or 6'4"] and we didn't have that many on the roster. One of the few others was 6'4" tackle Gus Cifelli [#80] who I believe is on our far right. #28, Frank Spaniel, FB, also looks right and #29, Jim Dailer, G, could be true. But throwing the whole exercise into fuzz-land is #34, Tom Saggau, HB [allegedly] who is listed as WAY taller than that guy pictured. If that number is wrong, then who can count on anything??

Again I don't see Hart in there. He should loom over everyone just as Krause does. Also, it would have been nice to see Sitko or Fischer and of course Martin in there. Old Glory Days.....​

 

[BGIF]

No doubt about it. It is a 1949 team photo enttitled, "Frank Leahy and Moose Krause on the Sidelines". I found the uncropped one you mentioned and it further identifies it as,

Football team on the sidelines during a game, including Assistant Coach Fred Miller, Head Coach Frank Leahy, and Athletic Director Edward Moose Krause, 1948.

Fred Miller wasn't listed on the coaching staff of the '48 roster of players and coaches but I found elsewhere he was a volunteer coach for Leahy from '48 - '53. Can't have volunteer coaches anymore.

I can also blow the photo up to 400% so the shape of numbers are a little easier to see.

Now I can see a player behind Leahy's right who is the size of Bill Wightkin, 6-3, and the first digit on his jersey could be an 8 in #83 but I think it's a the first digit is a 3 as in #38, Jim Martin. The 2 in Jim Dailer's #29 is more apparent at higher resolution. To the left of Fred Miller, is #28 Frank Spaniel.

There is no #64 listed on the '48 roster but still has the hairline and features of Paul Burns in the '49 team photo.

The guy you believe is Grooms, #60, has a 6 for the first digit on his jersey but I can see a open loop on the bottom of the second digit like a 3 or 5. I can't find a #65 on the roster and #63 Budyniekiewicz is too short at 6-0.

The guy to the right of Tripucka only has a 7 visible. I believe from the '47 team photo is Bill Fischer, he had a broad nose and was 6-2 230.

#34 is clearly visible on a jersey and #34 on the '48 roster was Tom Saggau listed at 6-0.

To the left of Moose is a #11 but I can't find him on the roster.

There's a big guy to #11's left that appear be #30 or #80. I'd guess 80 as that would make him 6-4, 244 Gus Cifelli.

It's an curious photo as there appear to be 3 different focal points. Miller, the guy you think is Grooms, Tripucka, Cifelli, and most of the unidentifeid players are all looking to their right, Leahy, 28, 29, and 34 all look intently in the opposite direction to their left, while Moose alone glares straight ahead at the photographer like he's thinking, "Get off the damn field, there's a play running!"

Nobody looks happy, considering how '48 went I'd surmise it was shot at the end of the 14-14 tie with Southern Cal that ruined a perfect season an what would have been a 34 game unbeaten, untied streak.

ND had 6 turnovers in that game and Tripucka got hurt. Williams replaced him. After a SC TD to take a 14-7 lead, Gay returned a KO 87 yds. A penalty took it to the 1 where Sitko scored with 35 seconds left for the tie. ND recovered an onside kick but didn't score to stay unbeaten but lose the perfect winning streak.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I'll buy it. Too bad all the youngsters on the board can't relate to any of this. Given the relative size of players in the 40s, the presence on our team of Hart, Martin, Groom, Fischer, Cifelli, Wightkin et al [and even the world's largest assistant coach] had to intimidate most teams just getting off the bus. Plus a 6'2" quarterback. When Hart went into the pros he was the second heaviest player there. The fact that he also could catch and run made him nearly a different species.

As to the chaotic "looking directions" of the photo: who knows? It reminds me more of a situation where a team is standing around waiting for something. Maybe the opponent hadn't taken the field yet. Stands are full and seated in orderly fashion.

 

[MNIrish14]

YES!!!! You can kind of see me in one of the banners (the one with the players walking through the student section). Big day for me

 

[dublinirish]

irishenvy Banner graphics

irishenvy Banner graphics

I love these but any chance we could get some new ones included with Irish Chocolate, KVR, Tuitt, Werewolf and of course Run CMC?

 

[NDBoiler]

Great suggestion, I've thought the same thing myself for a while!

J Pham - Can you hook this up, my friend?

 

[NDBoiler]

I love these but any chance we could get some new ones included with Irish Chocolate, KVR, Tuitt, Werewolf and of course Run CMC?

FYI, I sent in a suggestion formally.