Well, with our schedule next year, I can't see us being much better since we're losing our biggest threat on the offensive side of the ball, coupled with our loss at CB and our lack of a clear cut #1 QB. The kid can say what he wants, but I said at the beginning of the year, in order to keep and maintain the momentum Kelly wanted going into 2012, 8-5 or even 9-4 wasn't going to cut it this year. Is ND better off now, or are there just other problems? It was player development, and now it seems to be turnovers, the lack of a QB, or whatever the flavor of the month excuse is. The bottom line is I'm sick of making excuses and dealing with the lack of objectivity here on the board. First half of the FSU game we have people talking about how our defense is BCS caliber. Yea, okay, because they had four true freshmen linemen who were struggling to adapt. ND is going to be the death of me. I'm going into next season with 8-5 as my expectation.