Indianapolis Colts Football

[Irish#1]

After watching the game yesterday, I think Reich may have lost this team. Probably 4-6 weeks ago when he refused to replace AV. Players don't like to bust their butts only to lose because the kicker is missing easy FG's.

The effort was poor and Brissett just got worse. Announcer noted Brissett holds onto the ball longer than any other starting QB. That's a sign of indecisiveness.

 

[Irish YJ]

After watching the game yesterday, I think Reich may have lost this team. Probably 4-6 weeks ago when he refused to replace AV. Players don't like to bust their butts only to lose because the kicker is missing easy FG's.

The effort was poor and Brissett just got worse. Announcer noted Brissett holds onto the ball longer than any other starting QB. That's a sign of indecisiveness.

Well they signed the new kicker to an extension, as well as Pascal and Cox.

Give me Love or Herbert in the draft. My best case would be Kinlaw in the 1st, Love at the top of the 2nd. Hoping AC doesn't require. I think he's just positioning himself for a lucrative extension.

 

[Irish2155]

Watched the first half then flipped it over to the IU game. Neither were worth watching apparently.

Hate to say it but the best action forward is probably to deal Brisett for picks and plan on going with Chad Kelly in 2020. Hopefully they're bad enough to select Lawrence in the draft.

 

[Legacy]

Chris Ballard on Andrew Luck: 'There was no misleading'

 

[Irishnuke]

Chris Ballard on Andrew Luck: 'There was no misleading'

I don't have any ill will against Luck. He was in a bad place physically and mentally. I just really wish he had made this decision before the draft, or at least let management know he was considering it. Maybe he wasn't thinking about it at the time, but man it left the Colts in a shitty position.

 

[Legacy]

Seeing talk of Phillip Rivers would fit with the Colts, who have $88 million in cap space.

 

[BeauBenken]

Seeing talk of Phillip Rivers would fit with the Colts, who have $88 million in cap space.

Honestly would be his last shot at a playoff run probably.


Only a one or two year patch for the Colts if they think Jacoby cannot do it.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I thought he had fallen off a bit last year?

 

[BeauBenken]

I thought he had fallen off a bit last year?

It certainly was not a pretty year. But they went through stretches of the season where they either gave up big sack numbers or rushed for like 30 yards.

 

[NDdomer2]

I thought he had fallen off a bit last year?

more like a lot

 

[Legacy]

An ESPN writer has floated the idea of the Chiefs trading Chris Jones to the Colts for a second round pick. It would take at least a first. Would anyone insist on a second which may be used for a DT out of college for a perennial All-Pro?

 

[Irish#1]

If the Colts bring in Rivers, the writing is on the wall for JB. And if they do, I assume they will draft a QB to learn under Rivers for a couple of years. I can see Rivers having a couple of solid seasons behind a great O line.

Jones would be a good addition on the D line, but I can't see Ballard using a 1st round pick. He might a 2nd and another future pick. Colts have so much cap room, they will be under the minimum for the new CFB and will have to spend some money.

 

[Legacy]

I couldn't see the Chiefs trade Jones for anything less than a first rounder and perhaps switching third rounders.

Too pricey? A few other teams may well be interested, including the Minnesota, 'Boys, Buffalo, Jacksonville and Browns, etc. This is not a great draft for Interior Defensive Linemen. Otherwise, Chiefs could franchise him and work out a long-term contract for the 26 yr old.

If the Chiefs can, they'll work out the numbers so he can stay with them due to mutual interest. I can't see him playing for a non-contender and that could instantly fill a vital need for someone with plenty of cap room.

 

[Irish YJ]

If the Colts bring in Rivers, the writing is on the wall for JB. And if they do, I assume they will draft a QB to learn under Rivers for a couple of years. I can see Rivers having a couple of solid seasons behind a great O line.

Jones would be a good addition on the D line, but I can't see Ballard using a 1st round pick. He might a 2nd and another future pick. Colts have so much cap room, they will be under the minimum for the new CFB and will have to spend some money.

At DT, hoping they draft Kinlaw at 13, then trade back into the first (34+44=16ish) for Love. I'd prefer love at 34, but don't think he'll last.

 

[Luckylucci]

If the Colts bring in Rivers, the writing is on the wall for JB. And if they do, I assume they will draft a QB to learn under Rivers for a couple of years. I can see Rivers having a couple of solid seasons behind a great O line.

Jones would be a good addition on the D line, but I can't see Ballard using a 1st round pick. He might a 2nd and another future pick. Colts have so much cap room, they will be under the minimum for the new CFB and will have to spend some money.

I think Rivers is a bad fit for Indy. Very turnover prone lately and lacks patience with the ground game. The Chargers lost quite a few one score games the last two years and I don't think it's a coincidence that Rivers had 33 INT's over that span. He threw 23 TD's and 20 INT's this last season. 6 games with multiple INT's. He also had 8 fumbles last year, lost 3 of them. Let him go to Tampa and chuck it all over the field for 3500 yds and 30 Td's with Arians while they win 7 or 8 games.

 

[ACamp1900]

Rivers is a HoFer and deserved a bit better in the postseason years back but, his arm is shot... I'd honestly stick with JB at this point.

 

[Irish YJ]

I think Rivers is a bad fit for Indy. Very turnover prone lately and lacks patience with the ground game. The Chargers lost quite a few one score games the last two years and I don't think it's a coincidence that Rivers had 33 INT's over that span. He threw 23 TD's and 20 INT's this last season. 6 games with multiple INT's. He also had 8 fumbles last year, lost 3 of them. Let him go to Tampa and chuck it all over the field for 3500 yds and 30 Td's with Arians while they win 7 or 8 games.

He also had a shit OL, had a hold out RB. Except for his two top WRs, a revolving door.
I'd only want him if he was a bridge to a rook we draft.

 

[Luckylucci]

He also had a shit OL, had a hold out RB. Except for his two top WRs, a revolving door.
I'd only want him if he was a bridge to a rook we draft.

I don't see that being a valuable excuse.

I do think there is some correlation between pressure/sacks and INT's but this isn't one of those situations where the numbers prove that. He was sacked 34 times last year which puts him at 16th most sacked. There were 13 starting QB's who were sacked more and threw less picks. In some cases, they were sacked a lot more and didn't have nearly the turnover issues he did, not close.

They avg. 4 yds/carry on the season. Not a great number by any stretch but Mack avg. 4.4, for example. Also, Ekeler was one of the more productive RB's in the league prior to Gordon coming back, so not sure that holds much value either. I love Rivers but he was not good.

I certainly understand Indy trying to find a short term answer but there are better options than the self imploding Rivers, IMO.

 

[Irish YJ]

I don't see that being a valuable excuse.

I do think there is some correlation between pressure/sacks and INT's but this isn't one of those situations where the numbers prove that. He was sacked 34 times last year which puts him at 16th most sacked. There were 13 starting QB's who were sacked more and threw less picks. In some cases, they were sacked a lot more and didn't have nearly the turnover issues he did, not close.

They avg. 4 yds/carry on the season. Not a great number by any stretch but Mack avg. 4.4, for example. Also, Ekeler was one of the more productive RB's in the league prior to Gordon coming back, so not sure that holds much value either. I love Rivers but he was not good.

I certainly understand Indy trying to find a short term answer but there are better options than the self imploding Rivers, IMO.

His two Ts combined for giving up the 2nd most pressures in the league. The OL was ranked 29th.

They didn't have a RB with a hundred yard game until week 10, and only twice the entire year. The OL couldn't run block either.

I don't think Rivers is ringer or anything, but his supporting cast sucked last year. His OL has progressively gotten worse the last 5 years and hit rock bottom last year. I think he was simply trying to win. I saw a stat that showed the majority of INTs came in the 4Q when down.

 

[Luckylucci]

His two Ts combined for giving up the 2nd most pressures in the league. The OL was ranked 29th.

They didn't have a RB with a hundred yard game until week 10, and only twice the entire year. The OL couldn't run block either.

I don't think Rivers is ringer or anything, but his supporting cast sucked last year. His OL has progressively gotten worse the last 5 years and hit rock bottom last year. I think he was simply trying to win. I saw a stat that showed the majority of INTs came in the 4Q when down.

Where did you see those figures? It would seem odd to have that many pressures given up by tackles and them not turn into sacks as Rivers isn't a good athlete.

They also didn't try to run the ball much either or abandoned it rather quickly. They finished 28th in carries/game.

I watched a lot of Charger games as I was heavily invested for fantasy and Rivers was awful but he we can agree to disagree, its your Colts funeral. Just hate to see such good young talent wasted.

 

[Irish YJ]

Where did you see those figures? It would seem odd to have that many pressures given up by tackles and them not turn into sacks as Rivers isn't a good athlete.

They also didn't try to run the ball much either or abandoned it rather quickly. They finished 28th in carries/game.

I watched a lot of Charger games as I was heavily invested for fantasy and Rivers was awful but he we can agree to disagree, its your Colts funeral. Just hate to see such good young talent wasted.

Believe me, I'm not big on Rivers. I think he'd be a decent bridge/mentor if we end up drafting a rook. I don't really see anyone else better to fill that type of role. He'd be better than Hoyer or JB.


I did a google and found this. PFF on their OL. It actually hits most of my points. I'll look for the tweets too.

29. LOS ANGELES CHARGERS
The Chargers’ offensive line has been their roster's biggest weakness for several seasons now. To put it in perspective, the last time they had a team pass-blocking grade ranked above 26th was 2014. With Russell Okung out for much of the season, the tackle position manned by Trent Scott and Sam Tevi was an issue, consistently putting Philip Rivers under pressure. Tevi and Scott combined to allow 88 pressures this season. That was the second most of any tackle duo in the NFL, behind Nate Solder and Mike Remmers in New York.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-following-2019-regular-season

 

[Irish#1]

If the Colts bring Rivers in, I can’t believe it would be for more than a year or two max. Not sure how coachable he is at his age, but I think having Reich a former QB and a solid O line would help reduce the ints.

 

[Irish YJ]

If the Colts bring Rivers in, I can’t believe it would be for more than a year or two max. Not sure how coachable he is at his age, but I think having Reich a former QB and a solid O line would help reduce the ints.

Rivers says he only wants to play 2 more year max...
I don't think he really needs coaching. Just an OL and decent scheme/coach to call plays.

 

[Irish2155]

If the Colts bring Rivers in, I can’t believe it would be for more than a year or two max. Not sure how coachable he is at his age, but I think having Reich a former QB and a solid O line would help reduce the ints.

If I remember correctly there is some history there. I think Reich was either his OC or QB coach once upon a time in SD.

Not saying he's any good for the Colts or anything. As, YJ pointed out, the only value I see is mentoring a rook (assuming they take a QB) a year, maybe two, before handing over the reigns.

 

[Legacy]

Ballard at the season ending press conference:

“It always starts up front. I thought we were solid up front. I thought we had a couple of guys that had some really good years. I think the interior, we’ve got to be able to get some more interior pressure.

“The 3-technique, the 3-technique drives this thing. It does. Every time I’ve been a part of this (defensive scheme), the 3-technique drives this.”

Derrick Brown will be long gone. Javon Kinlaw is the favored pick. The rest would be a reach at thirteen.

 

[brick4956]

Anyone hear a rumor about Tom Brady being spotted getting off Irsay's Private jet for a meeting in Indy

 

[brick4956]

Saw a few mentions on twitter and reddit about it would be pretty wild if true

 

[Sea Turtle]

Anyone hear a rumor about Tom Brady being spotted getting off Irsay's Private jet for a meeting in Indy

I believe it was debunked as a hoax.

Phillip Rivers is the one that seems to have legs asca stop gap for the qb they draft.

 

[Irish#1]

Rumor is Brady is a little upset with Kraft and possibly Belichick with the initial offer, but I have a hard time believing he ends his career in another unifo. Brady has seen Belichick dump guys like a hot potato all the time, so if Belichick has any say in the deal, Brady shouldn't be too surprised if he's dumped as well.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Indianapolis Colts Football

Rumor is Brady is a little upset with Kraft and possibly Belichick with the initial offer, but I have a hard time believing he ends his career in another unifo. Brady has seen Belichick dump guys like a hot potato all the time, so if Belichick has any say in the deal, Brady shouldn't be too surprised if he's dumped as well.

The fact remains Brady and Belichicks legacies are handcuffed together. IMO, one or both has ALOT to lose with a split, and isnt worth it for either party.

People wont care that Brady is 70 years old and may not have anything left in the tank , if he bombs somewhere else, thats the story.

People wont care that the Pats roster isnt what it was a few years ago, and if if BB bombs post-Brady, thats the story.

They need each other, until the curtain drops


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