If fleeing oppression is their true driver, why didn't the Nicaraguans, El Salvadorians, or Hondurans, just stay in MX, or take a shorter trip even to Belize or Costa Rica? Instead, they come thousands of miles to the US. I'm not saying that every asylum seeker is full of shit, but the Left uses the whole asylum angle for political purposes. And the great majority of illegal immigrants are coached what to say. People can escape oppression a lot easier and not travel so far.... if that was their true purpose.
This is what I get for actually pointing out what's in the Bible. Well, poke the message board hornet nest and get typing....
Belize and Costa Rica aren't America to some people. It's all about an idea, as you know. As I understand it, Costa Rica is having a refugee "crisis" of their own as well? We tout ourselves as the greatest country in the world, then get mad when people want to come here legally or otherwise. I don't know why people would risk coming all the way here. I don't know why my grandparents came here when they could have gone elsewhere. If I had to guess, I'd say the idea of America, but I don't know what is in the minds of others. I can guess.
I'm friends with a Brazilian family, who came 20 ish years ago to the US illegally. I've known them since 2001. They've been guest at my house, and i spent last Thanksgiving as their guest. Awesome Brigadeiro. Wonderful folks. They had a son currently going to college here, and an upstanding young man. Both parents ended up marrying a US citizen so they could attain legal status. Pure sham marriages. The husband is a tax payer for the most part and has his own GC business, the wife runs her own "business" and does not pay taxes for the most part.
They actually did pretty well in Brazil, but came here for more opportunity. I've learned a lot from them about the illegal network, and how they are supported. They are coached very well about what to say to immigration officials. The means at which they entered illegally (visa overstay), stayed illegally, got IDs, got sham marriages, etc. was pretty well structured. Guess what they were coached to say in the early days of their stay... you got it, asylum....
Anyway, I love them dearly and I'm glad they are here. The funniest thing... they all love Trump, and the kid is actually a key campaigner for a far right GOP candidate here in GA....
Who is coaching them? These are the people we would WANT, though, right? They are working, law abiding, filling their end of the social contract. The kid is wasting his time getting over-educated, but he's following their path to working and holding up his end of the social bargain. They're not behaving like criminals, regardless of their coaching.
Number one, if they are here illegally, they broke the law. Number 2, the BS photo that the left was tweeting across social media was from the Obama administration. The left wants nothing short of THEIR WAY on the immigration issue. They could have had a DACA deal done. They would rather have the issue to run on at mid terms. What you are talking about, if it does happen, would not have happened at all if states would have enforced existing laws on the books in the first place.
I don't know what photo you're talking about. I didn't mention a photo. I'm speaking about people who are presenting themselves to our officials legally and are not sneaking in. They're being put in empty Walmart stores and US Senators are not being allowed to see what's inside. Let's say regardless of who is in The White House, I don't really trust that kind of behavior at all. That exactly transparency, and we all love the T word until it gets used against the party of our choice.
I'm in full agreement with you about the illegals but it is a separate issue to the people who are not sneaking into the country and are not breaking any rules, regardless of what they're coached to say. I'm not in agreement with you at all about the DACA deal.
There wasn't a thread for migrants or asylum seekers. I may have misplaced my scripture passages with that said. Sorry.
Thanks, I will.
I was surprised you brought it up. I don't think my intent was to tell you what to do with your time and money. I just tossed a couple of Bible passages onto a message board. To hell with me if I tell you what you should be doing.
The media is doing it's best to sensationalize immigration. The left plays up the kids, the right plays up the criminals.
Don't be so hard on the media. I saw the story the other night on the news about a dog race on the last day of school at an elementary school not even in the state I live in. Oh, and Roseanne did something.
So here's an honest question. Would you exchange amnesty for any illegal (without a criminal record, and willing to pay taxes), for strict border security and law enforcement going forward?
Illegals who are willing to pay taxes should have to get on a road to citizenship.
I'll spare you the story of a tenant I had in one of my properties who became a citizen.
It's a long, expensive process, but the pride she felt when it was over is something I don't know that I could explain. Whatever this path to citizenship may look like, I don't know, that's up to Congress. With this Congress, I have no hope they can figure it out. They're busy worried about what their donors want. Maybe next year.
I don't want a fucking wall. Use the billions of dollars in resources that are already there as effectively as possible. I'm sure they can find ways they can be smarter and more efficient with what they have.
It is what it is, as the saying goes. I don't know what we have to gain as a nation for treating people this way who are coming here, regardless of whatever they're being coached to say, and presenting themselves to our border officials. Some data shows it isn't an effective deterrent. Again, I don't know. I don't think anyone supports the criminals or gang members either, but it makes for great commercial ads. Yeah, we have a problem when we throw them out and they get right back in again. This is why we elect our reps in the House. They should be solving this and other issues. They seem to care about who writes them checks, however. Sad.
