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I am getting ready to grill up some burgers for my parents and I was wondering what kind of spices or seasoning you grillmasters out there like to use on your burgers. I love grilling and am trying a bunch of different things so any suggestions are welcome.
 

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Garlic salt, onion salt, pepper, touch of hot pepper. I also put a few drops of A1, or A1 marinade on the burger and spread it evenly after each flip (not on the initial sear). Best result is mixing the ground beef with all the above (use onions instead of onion salt)
 

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One pound ground beef, one egg, salt, pepper, ground coriander, garlic powder, diced onions, a squirt or two or three of Worcestershire.
 

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Hamburger 90%/10 % (Buffalo/Bison is best if available)
Mix in:
1 egg
Salt
Pepper
Garlic powder
Just a little bit of bread crumbs
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A1 Steak sauce (brushed on while they're
cooking)
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Cheese (White American melted to bubbling during last few minutes)
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Grill some thick sliced onions.
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Firm (more orange than red) tomato slices.
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Crispy lettuce
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Vlassic sandwich sliced pickles
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Thousand Island (if you want sauce)
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Don't put chopped onions, chopped garlic or anything that shrinks while it cooks inside the meat.
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Sweet potato fries with sea salt
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Happiness for all.
 
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or try my burger above but replace the A1 with Teriyaki Sauce and the grilled onion with grilled pineapple slices.

or

replace the White American cheese with Bleu Cheese.

or

replace the White American with Montery Jack and add in some grilled green chiles.
 

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I would not consider myself a grill master but I love lawry's season salt
 

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I would not consider myself a grill master but I love lawry's season salt

Oh you reminded me! I forgot to mention TOASTED BUNS.

Lightly butter ( I use "I can't believe its not butter") your buns then sprinkle with Lawry's Seasoned Salt then toast on grill.

.....Lawry's is great on roasted corn on the cob too.
 

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Didn't see this in time but I made some Juicy Lucys haha.

For those not in the know, you stuff the burger with cheese. It was delicious. I sprinkled garlic salt, salt and pepper, and a few drops of and A1 on every burger. Grilled at about 350 for 16-18 minutes and they came out great. Flipped em every 3 minutes pretty much. Idk if that is a good method to use but they came out good haha.

edit after seeing Bobs post: and Yes i used toasted buns haha
 

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Lawry's is the ****ing bomb on beef. That **** is great. I use it on my steaks sometimes. ****ing delicious.

Yes. Yes it is.

.....Lawry's is great on roasted corn on the cob too.

I grill my corn on the grill with my burgers. A little butter and lawry's and that corn on the cob will blow your mind!
 

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The two most important factors in grilling a delicious burger are: (1) buying the right meat; and (2) cooking it correctly. Only once you've covered those two bases should other things come into consideration.

80/20 ground beef from Costco is the best value I've found (in general, Costco offers high quality meat for a very reasonable price). Some advocate 90/10 beef, which is healthier, but definitely offers less flavor; they usually make up for this with other ingredients, which is fine, but the easiest way to produce a juicy flavorful burger is to start with 80/20.

As for cooking it properly, it's a simple process of searing over high direct heat and then moving the burgers to a "cold" part of the grill and letting them cook to readiness indirectly. This is easily achieved on most gas grills with a large-enough cooking surface/ number of burners to maintain temperature without all the burners on; but on small or charcoal grills, indirect cooking may not be an option.

The last key to properly cooking a burger is a good meat thermometer. I use a Thermapen; expensive, but well worth it. The consistent quality of all my grilled meat has increased ten fold since I bought it.

I like to taste the beef itself, so I don't do a lot of seasoning; salt, pepper, maybe a little garlic powder, but that's about it. 80/20 beef with a good sear pulled off the grill at 135 F is all I need. Now, if you have a sh!tty grill, or don't have a meat thermometer/ can't prevent over-cooking the meat, then a fancier recipe may work better. Some of the suggestions above are great for imbuing taste to an otherwise overcooked piece of meat.
 

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The two most important factors in grilling a delicious burger are: (1) buying the right meat; and (2) cooking it correctly. Only once you've covered those two bases should other things come into consideration.

80/20 ground beef from Costco is the best value I've found (in general, Costco offers high quality meat for a very reasonable price). Some advocate 90/10 beef, which is healthier, but definitely offers less flavor; they usually make up for this with other ingredients, which is fine, but the easiest way to produce a juicy flavorful burger is to start with 80/20.

As for cooking it properly, it's a simple process of searing over high direct heat and then moving the burgers to a "cold" part of the grill and letting them cook to readiness indirectly. This is easily achieved on most gas grills with a large-enough cooking surface/ number of burners to maintain temperature without all the burners on; but on small or charcoal grills, indirect cooking may not be an option.

The last key to properly cooking a burger is a good meat thermometer. I use a Thermapen; expensive, but well worth it. The consistent quality of all my grilled meat has increased ten fold since I bought it.

I like to taste the beef itself, so I don't do a lot of seasoning; salt, pepper, maybe a little garlic powder, but that's about it. 80/20 beef with a good sear pulled off the grill at 135 F is all I need. Now, if you have a sh!tty grill, or don't have a meat thermometer/ can't prevent over-cooking the meat, then a fancier recipe may work better. Some of the suggestions above are great for imbuing taste to an otherwise overcooked piece of meat.

You've got one up on Martha Stewart there. :rofl:
 

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Whiskey, do you sear both sides then indirect cook or just the bottom until you are ready to flip? How long do you allow for the sear until you indirect cook?
 

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Whiskey, do you sear both sides then indirect cook or just the bottom until you are ready to flip? How long do you allow for the sear until you indirect cook?

Good Questions. What temp do you set the grill at as well?
 

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Whiskey, do you sear both sides then indirect cook or just the bottom until you are ready to flip? How long do you allow for the sear until you indirect cook?

I sear on both sides. Usually only takes ~2 minutes per side on a good gas grill at max heat; can take even less time on a grill with a sear burner. There's no need to flip when it's over indirect heat.

How long to cook on indirect depends on the size of the burger and the desired "doneness". Ideally, you'll be using a meat thermometer to determine when to pull it off, but if you don't have one, a good rule of thumb is 3x however long it took to sear. 4 minutes to sear (2 on each side) and 12 minutes on indirect is generally pretty good for a 1/3 lb. patty.

Good Questions. What temp do you set the grill at as well?

425-450 for indirect. I've got a sear burner, so I usually cook with the top open at first to ensure everything gets a good sear, then move them all to indirect, close the lid, crank all burners (except those under the burgers) to get it up to temperature, and then back off the gas to maintain ~450.
 

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I sear on both sides. Usually only takes ~2 minutes per side on a good gas grill at max heat; can take even less time on a grill with a sear burner. There's no need to flip when it's over indirect heat.

How long to cook on indirect depends on the size of the burger and the desired "doneness". Ideally, you'll be using a meat thermometer to determine when to pull it off, but if you don't have one, a good rule of thumb is 3x however long it took to sear. 4 minutes to sear (2 on each side) and 12 minutes on indirect is generally pretty good for a 1/3 lb. patty.



425-450 for indirect. I've got a sear burner, so I usually cook with the top open at first to ensure everything gets a good sear, then move them all to indirect, close the lid, crank all burners (except those under the burgers) to get it up to temperature, and then back off the gas to maintain ~450.

Perfecto!

infrared sear burners are the best thing to ever happen to BBQ's.
 
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Since we're on grills, if you haven't seen them, check out Lynx grills. AWESOME!


If you decide you need one, give me a shout : )
 

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I sear on both sides. Usually only takes ~2 minutes per side on a good gas grill at max heat; can take even less time on a grill with a sear burner. There's no need to flip when it's over indirect heat.

How long to cook on indirect depends on the size of the burger and the desired "doneness". Ideally, you'll be using a meat thermometer to determine when to pull it off, but if you don't have one, a good rule of thumb is 3x however long it took to sear. 4 minutes to sear (2 on each side) and 12 minutes on indirect is generally pretty good for a 1/3 lb. patty.



425-450 for indirect. I've got a sear burner, so I usually cook with the top open at first to ensure everything gets a good sear, then move them all to indirect, close the lid, crank all burners (except those under the burgers) to get it up to temperature, and then back off the gas to maintain ~450.

Whiskey you are the man. Im cooking burgers tomorrow!
 

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While on the topic, just had me some smoked pulled pork from my Kamado Joe. Smoked at 250 for 14 hours. It was fantastic.

I love my smoker and recommend it to anyone who loves BBQ.
 

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Well, to each their own, of course, but here is how I do it:

1. First of all, it is sacrilege to me to grill over gas. I am a charcoal man all the way.

2. I use only Weber kettles. 221/2 inch at home, 2 Smokey Joes when I am traveling (they fit in the motor home storage compartments better).

3. Start the charcoal. Let it get good and hot. The way to tell when it is ready is to pile it up in the middle and start it on fire with your preferred starter medium (propane, lighter fluid, paper chimney starters, whatever.) It will flame up really high, and then will die down to no flames. Don't start cooking--let it sit for a good 20 minutes. You will notice that after awhile the flames start to come back. That is when you are ready to spread the coals, put on your grill, wire brush it good, and start cooking. The biggest mistake I've seen people make when cooking on charcoal is to not let the fire get hot enough. Too impatient, I guess, but that is quality beer drinking time.

4. I use only 80/20. Nice, juicy, burgers. 90/10 is just too damned dry.

5. Hand pat nice big burgers. They are going to shrink when you cook them.

6. I don't add anything as far as ingredients. Good beef should not be adulterated, IMHO.

7. When the fire is hot and the grill is ready, throw on the burgers. I can get about 15 - 16 at a time on the 221/2" Weber.

8. Now, it is going to flame like hell. Don't worry about it. While this is happening, shake a generous amount of Lawry's and restaurant style black pepper on the top side. Sometimes I have to wear my Weber grill glove to do this, so I don't burn the hair off my arms.

9. Flip the burgers over. May want to leave the glove on. Season the other side as above.

10. Flip 'em again. Put the lid on the Weber. All air ports, both bottom and top should be wide open. The smoke is going to start rolling out of the top ports. But, all flames inside will immediately go out.

11. Let cook for exactly 4 minutes. Take the lid off. Flip 'em one more time. The flames might come back, but this is a quick process. Put the lid back on. Drink a beer.

12. Cook for 3 minutes. If you want cheese, take the lid off, put the cheese on, and cook for 1 more minute. This will finish the burgers and melt the cheese perfectly. If you don't want cheese, just cook for 4 minutes straight through instead of 3. Drink another beerwhile they are cooking.

13. Take the lid off. Take 'em off. Put 'em on a platter (probably need 2 for a full grill.) Enjoy some of the tastiest, juiciest burgers you have ever had. If you need another batch, leave the lid off until the fire gets good and hot again and repeat the process.
 
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my favorite burger:
70/30 or if i must 80/20 ground beef--any less fat, not as much flavor and not worth it in my opinion. rough patty. do not want to handle the meat too much. a little dent in center of patty keeping the meat from doming up.

sea salt and pepper on a ultra hot grill. seasoned side down first. 4 min. season again, sea salt and pepper. flip. 4min. last minute place 1 or 2 slices of american cheese cover with pot top to evenly melt.

take burgers off grill and rest for about 5 minutes.

toast buns or not, i like a extremely lightly toasted bun. but i always use potato buns. they are the softest.

mix mayo--not miricle whip--and ketchup.
slice of vine tomato. slice of iceberg. red or yellow onion (i dont use onion)

great beer and homemade shoestring fries.

perfection.
 
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my favorite burger:
70/30 or if i must 80/20 ground beef--any less fat, not as much flavor and not worth it in my opinion. rough patty. do not want to handle the meat too much. a little dent in center of patty keeping the meat from doming up.

sea salt and pepper on a ultra hot grill. seasoned side down first. 4 min. season again, sea salt and pepper. flip. 4min. last minute place 1 or 2 slices of american cheese cover with pot top to evenly melt.

take burgers off grill and rest for about 5 minutes.

The worst are "ultra lean" hockey pucks. They may as well be labeled Burger Chips.
 

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Some other miscellaneous grilling tips:
  • Rub down the grill with safflower or canola oil before firing it up to prevent sticking. Nothing's worse than watching a good sear get ruined by a sticky grill.
  • I'm sure none of the posters in this thread would ever do this, but resist the urge to press down on the burgers with your flipper; you'll just squeeze all the juice out. Similarly, try not to perforate the burgers unnecessarily. I only probe with the meat thermometer from the top, once everything has been moved to indirect (no more flipping), in order to minimize juice loss.
  • After you're done, crank the gas up to max heat and leave it for 10-15 minutes. This will incinerate anything remaining on the grill, making for very easy clean up with a wire brush.
  • After it's clean, take half of a large white onion and rub it on the grill. This will kill any remaining bacteria that managed to survive the burn off.
  • Clean your grill thoroughly, including the burners and the charred crap at the bottom, with reasonable frequency. Those remnants of past grilled food "smoke" everything you cook thereafter. The charred remains of something pungent, like salmon, can throw off the taste of a fine steak later on if the bottom isn't cleaned out.
 
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If a 90/10 burger is ttoo dry, you've overcooked it. (most common mistake of the backyard chef)

80/20 is fine (and most common) if your health isn't an issue and your accustomed to shrinkage.

Buffalo taste way better than cow.

Elk and Deer can be too lean but with a thinner patty and some seasoned butter you can make some tasty burgers

If you love good pizza get a pizza stone for your BBQ.......f#ckin amazing pizza!
 
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