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Today was suppose to be a green out but it really didnt look much different than any other day. I was watching the georgia vs lsu game and couldnt believe how much red was in that stadium. I realize that having a different color shirt every year causes a lot of different color shirts in the crowd but we should be able to do much better than that. Hell paint the benches or something. As much as i hate to say it maybe a fancy scoreboard and stadium renovations will make people more excited. The cubs have stuck with their old stadium and scoreboard for years and those fans are never happy. Maybe if the fans gets more excited the players will get more excited?
 

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Today was suppose to be a green out but it really didnt look much different than any other day. I was watching the georgia vs lsu game and couldnt believe how much red was in that stadium. I realize that having a different color shirt every year causes a lot of different color shirts in the crowd but we should be able to do much better than that. Hell paint the benches or something. As much as i hate to say it maybe a fancy scoreboard and stadium renovations will make people more excited. The cubs have stuck with their old stadium and scoreboard for years and those fans are never happy. Maybe if the fans gets more excited the players will get more excited?

I was actually rather impressed with the amount of green I saw in the stadium today. That being said, I was also rather impressed with the amount of red in the stadium today.

It wasn't a great sea of green by any means, but the casual fans ended up in more green than I thought they would
 

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Check out the pOSU game. That is how a fan base should look in their stadium, espescially when the head coach tells everyone to wear the same color.
 

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Yep still way to many blue hairs there staring at the pretty yellow mums while sitting on their hands
 

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Yep still way to many blue hairs there staring at the pretty yellow mums while sitting on their hands

1) Leave the mums out of this, they're beautiful.

2) I agree, but if by blue hairs you mean old people, I think you're both right and wrong. They are part of the problem, but they are just a few of the many. SOOOO many people either just don't want to be loud/invested in the first place, and then a lot more wave the white flag at the first sign of trouble. I don't know what it is with our fanbase, but it's one of my least favorite parts about it.
 

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I think the problem is how difficult for the average fan to get tickets, then when you can find them the price they are. Keeps the casual obnoxious fan out of the stadium. The fan that cheers for their team even when they are down by 40. The fan that going to the game is the highlight of their year. The fan that will fight his own fanbase just because he's drunk. Those are the fans that bring a stadium to life.
 

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I think the problem is how difficult for the average fan to get tickets, then when you can find them the price they are. Keeps the casual obnoxious fan out of the stadium. The fan that cheers for their team even when they are down by 40. The fan that going to the game is the highlight of their year. The fan that will fight his own fanbase just because he's drunk. Those are the fans that bring a stadium to life.

There are positives and negatives to fans like this lol

I would rather have all fans that just cared a heck of a lot and were loud and annoying even when they were down by 40 just because they were there to help the team and that was their only avenue of doing so.

A guy can dream...
 

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There are positives and negatives to fans like this lol

I would rather have all fans that just cared a heck of a lot and were loud and annoying even when they were down by 40 just because they were there to help the team and that was their only avenue of doing so.

A guy can dream...

I agree. Lol. I went a bit overboard with the description. And I think the venue (the stadium and campus and such) are just as much the reason as any other.
 

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I think the problem is how difficult for the average fan to get tickets, then when you can find them the price they are. Keeps the casual obnoxious fan out of the stadium. The fan that cheers for their team even when they are down by 40. The fan that going to the game is the highlight of their year. The fan that will fight his own fanbase just because he's drunk. Those are the fans that bring a stadium to life.

This is what i dont understand. Notre Dame has a lot of money, they want the place to be jumping but the average fan cant get in. We could easily sell out a big house sized stadium. Put the old alums in boxes and put screaming fans in the front rows. Even the hockey tickets have i think tripled in prices from 5 years ago. I have a family member who has had "glass seats" for hockey for a long time. He went from Glass seats, to upper bottom section to not buying them anymore because of the price increase.
 

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And not having a jumbo tron and minimum music being played doesn't help either. I understand the tradition and don't disagree with them. Just things I think would change the crowd involvement.
 

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And not having a jumbo tron and minimum music being played doesn't help either. I understand the tradition and don't disagree with them. Just things I think would change the crowd involvement.

Why is it that every college team plays the same few songs?
 

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Today was suppose to be a green out but it really didnt look much different than any other day. I was watching the georgia vs lsu game and couldnt believe how much red was in that stadium. I realize that having a different color shirt every year causes a lot of different color shirts in the crowd but we should be able to do much better than that. ...


It was green. You have to keep in mind red in a much more noticeable color than green. It's no accident that RED is used for Stop Signs and Stop Lights and Green is used for Go.

Same with UGA and LSU. Think about the traffic signal RED, YELLOW, GREEN. Fire Engine Red. Arrest Me Red. Gingers. Red stands out.


The Shirt is also a problem and the Shirt Committee doesn't want to hear "GO GREEN!" when they just sanctions a blue shirt (or any color other than green).


Also keep in mind schools like Nebraska, Arkansas, Texas, Bama, Tennessee, and a raft of others have promoted a color scheme for DECADES. I had realatives 40 years ago that were Arkansas season ticket holders. People where something of Arkansas's red be at hat, scarf, etc. But when they play Texas they want people in red from head to toe.

A YEAR BEFORE THE GAME the fanbase gets a notice to put it on their calendar. When tickets go on sale the order form lets you know when the RED date is. When you get your ticketes, you get a reminder. At every home game they make an announcement as a reminder. The alumni clubs remind people at local functions. AND they put banners up to remind people.

Over time it gets ingrained.


Now when did ND decide the OU game was to be green? Tuesday for the P.C.? A week ago?

Did you get a notice with your ticket order?

In a UND mailing?

Through the ND Clubs?

NO. NO. NO.

Putting it on the website a few days before the game isn't "getting the word out".

About 10 or 12 years ago on another board a mod who was a student wanted to do a BLUE OUT. I told him ND's blue is too dark. He suggested GOLD. I pointed out it would look like a sea of urine. Besides how many guys had gold clothes? I suggested GREEN. This was in the early summer. He posted it on the board where a couple hundred people read it most of whom weren't going to the game. Somebody on The Shirt Committee complained it would hurt sales.

He was a marketing major and I suggested he take this on like a marketing project. As a student it was something he could put on his resume. I sent him a list of ND Clubs around the world. I suggested he contact each dorm, as well as St Mary's and Holy Cross to others student leaders involved. And to contact the AD's office, the HC, and SID.

He did.

That was '02 when Willingham started out 8-0 and fans were wearing green to games on their own. Actually as a by product for the green out. Somebody whispered in Willingham's ear, "we should jump on board with this". And Willingham announced that the players would wear green in the next home game not to motivate the players but for the players to acknowledge the spirit the student body and the fans had been showing wearing green that season.

I was at the FSU game that year in Tallahassee. 5,000 ND fans marched in, in unison chanting, "HERE COME THE IRISH!" It was awesome!

The next game was BC. Before the game Coughlin told his players ND was afraid of BC and wore green because they needed the motivation. He was successful in using color as a motivational tool where Willingham was simply trying to recognize the fans. ND lost and the AD's office wanted to hear nothing about a GreenOut again.


Bottom line is you have to get UND on board OR get a grass roots movement organized. But it's got to be 6 months to a year ahead to plan not 6 days.

Kudo's to the fans who turned green with pride. Jeers to the "but our colors are blue and gold" crowd. They are but not the colors that Rockne's, Leahy's, Parshegian's, Devine's, and Holtz's teams wore winning national championships. The colors Faust teams wore are actually the school's colors. Sorry Jeerers, Madonna Blue isn't KickAss. (Neither was Willingham's green)
 

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Teams that can do color-outs don't have 3 different main colors. A green out will never work.

With NDNation guys like you, no color would work. It would require you to cooperate with other people something that goes against your self image.
 

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They were supposed to give out 40,000 green Pom poms, but we only saw those in the student section. That whole thing seemed pretty poorly planned. If those were event distributed throughout the stadium it would have looked a lot better.
 

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IMO I was very surprised how well the green out worked in person. The problem is the color is green. Mix that with red and the red really sticks out. Green on tv will never stick out.
 

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Was at the game and was very impressed with how green the stadium was. Probably about 15,000 Oklahoma fans there all wore red, but ND fans definitely did a good job with this one. Too bad the first two minutes sucked the life out of many.
 

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If you want to do a color out at Notre Dame stadium it has to be in warm weather and you have to give t-shirts to every person in attendance. Otherwise it just won't work.
 
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If you want to do a color out at Notre Dame stadium it has to be in warm weather and you have to give t-shirts to every person in attendance. Otherwise it just won't work.

You don't have to give free t-shirts. You have to decide before the season when the green out will be and put it on the ticket.
 

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You don't have to give free t-shirts. You have to decide before the season when the green out will be and put it on the ticket.

You brought it up yourself. We have 3 different main colors. No matter how hard we try there are going to be a few thousand fans that don't get with the movement. They can definitely get a corporate sponsor to cover most of the cost.
 

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I wear the same decade-old green t-shirt to every Notre Dame game I attend, but I am baffled as to why anyone thinks it really matters that everyone in a stadium is wearing the same color. Sure it looks cool when everyone at Ohio State or Nebraska is wearing red. But what difference does it make?

Noise is different. Noise matters because it can affect the outcome of the game. But color-coordination? Not so much. And pom-poms are just annoying. You ever try to yell with your hands cupped around your mouth while holding a pom-pom? It's a mess.
 

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It may not have looked green on TV, but from inside the stadium it was actually very green. I was impressed. It was probably just harder to tell how green it was because of the hoards of Oklahoma fans in there.
 

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In all honesty, I thought there was a pretty good turn out of green in the stadium. It was noticeable outside in the Joyce lot aswell. Way more green this week than last. I personally, am part of the group that like the blue more than green, but i have no problem wearing green when called upon and asked to wear green. They need to just inform the fan base ahead of time. Like someone mentioned earlier, put it on the ticket, do somehting more than try and inform the fan base the week of the game.
 

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In 08 the White Sox did a black out for their night game (for the division) vs the Twins and it looked awesome!
If black looked great then our dark blue would be fine.

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irisheyes

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In 08 the White Sox did a black out for their night game (for the division) vs the Twins and it looked awesome!
If black looked great then our dark blue would be fine.

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Aren't the seats black at the cell though?

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Need to release it before the season and put it on every schedule and promo it. I was actually impressed with the turn out bc the last time they tried for something like that it, it was less than stellar.

Red just stands out more bc its bright as hell haha. There werent anymore Okla fans there yesterday than ND fans in Norman last year. Its two teams with proud fanbases that travel well.

osu stadium looked good last night bc both teams are Red. they did a scarlet out last yr for....Nebraska. Penn Sts white out is impressive but those things are released preseason of an every game thing.
 
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