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They have big plans for him in seattle, and with the new OC, he should be getting the ball in his hands alot... And as for grimes... i liked him but cmon lol.. him and dj hord were big disappointments to me.. they were supposed to be so good, and then hord fell of the face of the planet, and grimes had a mediocre career...
 

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They have big plans for him in seattle, and with the new OC, he should be getting the ball in his hands alot... And as for grimes... i liked him but cmon lol.. him and dj hord were big disappointments to me.. they were supposed to be so good, and then hord fell of the face of the planet, and grimes had a mediocre career...

Doesn't the new OC run the west coast offense since that moron childress hand picked him to be his oc and he was the QB coach in GB correct me if im wrong?
 

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They have big plans for him in seattle, and with the new OC, he should be getting the ball in his hands alot... And as for grimes... i liked him but cmon lol.. him and dj hord were big disappointments to me.. they were supposed to be so good, and then hord fell of the face of the planet, and grimes had a mediocre career...

I'm a little foggy on this since I was pretty young when grimes was playing but wasn't he a beast his junior year, and then senior year he was not as good
 

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I'll use a late round fantasy pick on him IF/when there is football this year.

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I'm a little foggy on this since I was pretty young when grimes was playing but wasn't he a beast his junior year, and then senior year he was not as good

Second half of that statement is correct, had his most yards his jr. year but never went for more than 3 receiving TD's and Catches went down almost every yr from his frosh. I remember the expectations we had for him and D.J. Hord
 

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If 27 catches for 224 yards and 2 TDs(in 10 games) is "a beast", then yes............Grimes was a beast his junior year!
 

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Everything.

Grimes made 2 memorable catches...one didn't count.

Just before Shark stopped UCLA's collective heart, grimes made a diving grab on the sideline...HUGE play.

Grimes made one of the best catches I've seen in college football against Stanford...called a TD on the field, over-ruled by the most incompetent replay booth EVER! Alas, it didn't count.


I liked David, he was clutch, but he was never a feature receiver...did ok as a second option. Having a tough time seeing the comparison to Tate, who, at times WAS the offense.

As for Poodle...I have always taken anything the guy said w/ a grain of salt. He is a cheerleader who could recruit players and coordinators. He is not long for the NFL, and Golden will have a 10 plus year career. He's simply too dynamic not to find a niche.
 

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Were not really comparing Grimes to Golden are we ??..... I may have missed some sarcasm in the initial statement about grimes, if so my bad.... But if not , Golden was EASILY better . Kid was a freak !
 

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I thought the joke was fairly obvious.

I was wondering after you put it, thats why I put "better at" originally. To see if you added something to it like "better at going to school for four years" or something with a catch. Then everyone else went with it so I just sat back to see your rebuttal. Good one though.
 

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Golden making friends in NASCAR. LMAO!

Seattle Seahawks' Golden Tate takes Twitter shots at Jimmie Johnson - ESPN

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LOUDON, N.H. -- Jimmie Johnson has a pair of titles he's especially proud to have linked to his name: NASCAR champion. AP Male Athlete of the Year.

Yes, that's right. The five-time champion driver is an athlete, too.

Johnson was swept into a brief Twitter feud this week because of his inclusion as a nominee for male athlete of the year at the ESPY Awards. Seattle Seahawks receiver Golden Tate posted on his account, @ShowtimeTate, "Jimmy johnson up for best athlete???? Um nooo .. Driving a car does not show athleticism."

He continued to tweak Johnson, angering NASCAR fans. Tate later posted, "12th man get these rednecks off me."

Johnson mostly laughed off the barbs Friday at New Hampshire Motor Speedway and invited Tate to the track to learn more about NASCAR.

"I think it's easy to make a comment when you don't know," Johnson said. "In a lot of situations, people haven't been to a race or been close enough to our sport to understand what takes place here."

Johnson often mentions his 2009 AP award, because he's proud and because it ran down some stereotypes that drivers shouldn't be considered athletes. He received a handwritten letter from the grandson of NASCAR founder Bill France that told him how important it was that drivers were considered athletes.

"It's something we have fought for a long time," Johnson said.

Tate believed men in firesuits aren't qualified to be called athletes like men in shoulder pads.

Some of his posts:

"I've driven a car on unknown roads at night at 90mph no big deal. No sign of athletism."

"Guarantee he couldn't in million year play any SPORT."

"give me 6 months of training and I bet I could compete."

NASCAR defenders quickly typed in defense of their champion and their slams got Tate's attention.

"Apologies for my offensive comment to NASCAR fans. I actually read up on it and NO I couldn't race a car 150 mph," he tweeted.

Johnson found humor in the posts, joking that, "I was impersonating an athlete at the ESPYS."

Drivers have always defended their spot as true athletes. Detractors claim it's not that hard to sit and turn left for a few hours. But when other athletes get a taste of NASCAR, they're often hooked -- and give credit that a driver is no less a real athlete than a baseball or football player.

"There is just an education process that has to take place across a lot of mediums," Johnson said. "Through sports, I'm excited to see top athletes come in and see what we do and also go for rides in cars and be around. And when they do, they are our best advocates. They are out there telling the story."
 

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I'm totally with Tate on this. Yes, driving a stock car puts significant physical pressure on the driver, but that's in no way comparable to what a football player must do and endure on the field.

Might as well call fighter pilots and astronauts athletes as well.
 

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I can see Tate's point...and IMO I agree.

I get into this discussion with a workmate all the time, not only does he say they are athletes he says they are the BEST athletes in the world, which to me is laughable. I argue Hockey Players are the BEST athletes in the world.
 

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I would agree with Tate. My father and most of my uncle's have been in racing for years. Not big time racing or anything just local tracks and things like that. My father also has alot of friends who still race alot and I wouldnt say their athletes. My father is not athletic in any shape or form and neither are his friends...not saying that all drivers are not. If you were to even ask my father if race car drivers are atheletes he would laugh and say no. I wouldnt necessarily classify racing as a sport. However,I will say that race car drivers have alot more balls than any football player, baseball player etc considering they jump into a car going over 100 mph through tight turns and risk being killed every weekend.
 
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Hell a lot of professional baseball pitchers would barely qualify as athletes. Have you seen some of these big boys? lol

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In my opinion, you may qualify as an athlete as a driver, but it sure as heck doesn't mean you're one of the better athletes in the world because of how well you drive.

True athleticism at it's finest I think you usually find in Track & Field, Football, and Basketball.
 

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I would agree with Tate. My father and most of my uncle's have been in racing for years. Not big time racing or anything just local tracks and things like that. My father also has alot of friends who still race alot and I wouldnt say their athletes. My father is not athletic in any shape or form and neither are his friends...not saying that all drivers are not. If you were to even ask my father if race car drivers are atheletes he would laugh and say no. I wouldnt necessarily classify racing as a sport. However,I will say that race car drivers have alot more balls than any football player, baseball player etc considering they jump into a car going over 100 mph through tight turns and risk being killed every weekend.

While I'm not completely sure NASCAR drivers are athletes, this is probably the worst arguement I have ever seen. That's like saying; oh, NBA players aren't athletes because I play in a rec league and I'm not an athlete. Come on man :)
 

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Have to disagree. I think they are athletes who compete in a sport. It is just a matter of the degree of athleticism of the athlete. It may not take the physical exertion of a football player or a rugby player, but the level of endurance and concentration can take its toll on a man. They are athletes. Just not to the same degree as many others, that's all.
 

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ill just say this, if my son has 4.4 40 time, a 40 inch vertical, and is benching 300, im not gunna sign him up for stock car racing.....
 

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I'm SURE most athletes in major sports would agree, but Golden has to learn to keep his mouth shut about things that would anger a lot of people. Not all publicity is good publicity.
 

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ill just say this, if my son has 4.4 40 time, a 40 inch vertical, and is benching 300, im not gunna sign him up for stock car racing.....

Why restrict your son's options? Sure racing can be dangerous, but severe injuries on the track are few and far between. And the career life span for racing is something around 25 years, while in the NFL is it around 5. Dont see a lot of concerns about traumatic brain injuries in retired drivers in their 50's, and that is just now coming to light for retired football players. And the money? Top Nascar drivers last year:
Dale Jr: $30 mil
Jeff Gordon: $27 mil
Jimmy Johnson: $23 mil
Tony Stewart: $19 mil
Carl Edwards: $14 mil

I dont care what physical skills my son may have. It he wants football, awesome. If he wants baseball, basketball, driving, I'll support his dream.
 

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I'm SURE most athletes in major sports would agree, but Golden has to learn to keep his mouth shut about things that would anger a lot of people. Not all publicity is good publicity.

I agree, there is no ROI (return on investment) for doing this...and he needs to realize he still represents ND. There is not need for this at all...other then getting ppl pissed.
 
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