Georgia Tech Post Game Thread

[Sherm Sticky]

nobody?

If you are referring to the showtime show it isn't in till tomorrow.


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[Irish#1]

IrishYJ and posse hitting on the GT cheerleaders.

 

[Irish YJ]

Hey man, they were hitting on me lol. What you don't see are the tears shed by the one on the far left after I told her I had a girlfriend.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Who said he sucked in the preseason?

According to some practice reports Malik had rough days with accuracy and Kizer looked better during some sessions.


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I think he may be referring to the Spring. Kizer was 3rd behind EG and MZ. He got very few reps and looked absolutely horrible during the BG Game. Granted, he was dealing with some personal issues as well, I believe. But I don't think a single person had faith in him based on his Spring performance.

Fast forward, post-EG-era, and Kizer starts taking #2 reps. It was reported in various practices that he actually looked pretty accurate and that he definitely had improved since Spring. MZ had his off days in practice but in no way was Kizer expected to beat him out.

Now that Malik is hurt, it's Kizer's team. I hope everyone rallies behind him, but at least tampers their expectations (I know I am) since just five short months ago, he was barely getting reps as a #3 QB. Hopefully he can use UMass as a game to gain even more confidence and iron out some finer details in his game. Props to Coach Sanford for getting these guys ready. Can't be stated enough.

 

[connor_in]

showtime link?

As Sherm said, its not until tonight. Also, it will probably be posted in the show's thread here: http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/notre-dame-football/273989-season-notre-dame-football.html

 

[Booslum31]

Two things that might have been pointed out already:

1. I love when the O-Line goes into Rugby-mode ten yards down the field...10 guys pushing the pile.

2. Who was getting lit up by BGV as he was coming off the field? Made Kelly look like an angel when he's mad.

 

[dublinirish]

Two things that might have been pointed out already:

1. I love when the O-Line goes into Rugby-mode ten yards down the field...10 guys pushing the pile.

Guys on ESPN/whatever always call this play a "Scrum" when if they had half a brain they would know its more akin to a Rolling Maul. Makes me cringe everytime they say that

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Two things that might have been pointed out already:

1. I love when the O-Line goes into Rugby-mode ten yards down the field...10 guys pushing the pile.

2. Who was getting lit up by BGV as he was coming off the field? Made Kelly look like an angel when he's mad.

At the time I thought it was Martini, but I could be wrong.

 

[Booslum31]

Guys on ESPN/whatever always call this play a "Scrum" when if they had half a brain they would know its more akin to a Rolling Maul. Makes me cringe everytime they say that

I always got my rucks and mauls confused. As an outside center I tried to avoid both.

 

[Irish#1]

Two things that might have been pointed out already:

1. I love when the O-Line goes into Rugby-mode ten yards down the field...10 guys pushing the pile.

2. Who was getting lit up by BGV as he was coming off the field? Made Kelly look like an angel when he's mad.

I love it as well. I've also noticed that the O-line is usually already down the field and ready to go for the next play. The RB's have to love that.

 

[dublinirish]

I love it as well. I've also noticed that the O-line is usually already down the field and ready to go for the next play. The RB's have to love that.

guys on II podcast laughed about this, CJ's upright running style kinda encourages these kind of plays and they are psychologically worth more than the yardage they provide as the crowd and team love to see them

 

[irishtrain]

Self imposed ban for being STUPID-now lets hope I was dead wrong about Death Valley. Even my Georgia friends were on my case about being negative.

 

[koonja]

IDK where to put this, it's just odd.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gotta get this natty and I'm out.</p>— Jay Hayes (@JayHayesNY) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayHayesNY/status/646532867682643968">September 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[IrishMoore1]

IDK where to put this, it's just odd.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gotta get this natty and I'm out.</p>— Jay Hayes (@JayHayesNY) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayHayesNY/status/646532867682643968">September 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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He must be referring to drinking a natty light and then leaving party.

 

[NDPhilly]

He must be referring to drinking a natty light and then leaving party.

lol

 

[ndfb3]

How Notre Dame's defense shut down Georgia Tech's option offense - CBSSports.com

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Replay just started on channel universal hd

 

[stlnd01]

How Notre Dame's defense shut down Georgia Tech's option offense - CBSSports.com

Can we somehow erase that from the Internet? We need Ga. Tech to win 9 or 10 games, at least.

 

[Irish YJ]

Can we somehow erase that from the Internet? We need Ga. Tech to win 9 or 10 games, at least.

can we please let them concentrate on Duke right now....

 

[GBdomer]

Game is on universal if anyone wants to watch it. I wish we would get Chris Brown the ball in space more because damn he is so explosive. Jaylon Smith I might never see another LB like him at ND, just a perfect talent. Rucssell still drives me nuts, this defense needs to force a damn pick! Can't believe we haven't gotten one yet, O line is miles ahead of where it was at this time last year. Please, please for the love of God let CJ Sanders return kicks. We know what we are getting with Amir returning kicks for the last couple years and it's not him. Doesn't have the vision to do it at a Championship level. Look at the teams that play for the playoffs they all play excellent special teams. Yoon will calm down but everytime he goes to kick it's like watching Rees throw a pass. Why doesn't Tori Hunter get on the field more often? Still think someone other than Day needs to develop a pass rush. Have to get pressure with the front 4, I have no idea where Trumbetti and Okwara have been, I know this wasn't a game for them but moving forward it's something needs to happen

Also Deshone Kizer stares down his first look and never goes to his second read. He needs to start going through his progressions if we want to beat Clemson and play Championship football.

That's all from my rant. Also Greer Martini is a heck of a football player wouldn't mind seeing him and Nyles Morgan play inside for us next year.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Notre Dame 30, Georgia Tech 22: A magnificent effort from the Irish defense - Football Study Hall

For the stat geeks out here.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Game is on universal if anyone wants to watch it. I wish we would get Chris Brown the ball in space more because damn he is so explosive. Jaylon Smith I might never see another LB like him at ND, just a perfect talent. Rucssell still drives me nuts, this defense needs to force a damn pick! Can't believe we haven't gotten one yet, O line is miles ahead of where it was at this time last year. Please, please for the love of God let CJ Sanders return kicks. We know what we are getting with Amir returning kicks for the last couple years and it's not him. Doesn't have the vision to do it at a Championship level. Look at the teams that play for the playoffs they all play excellent special teams. Yoon will calm down but everytime he goes to kick it's like watching Rees throw a pass. Why doesn't Tori Hunter get on the field more often? Still think someone other than Day needs to develop a pass rush. Have to get pressure with the front 4, I have no idea where Trumbetti and Okwara have been, I know this wasn't a game for them but moving forward it's something needs to happen

Also Deshone Kizer stares down his first look and never goes to his second read. He needs to start going through his progressions if we want to beat Clemson and play Championship football.

That's all from my rant. Also Greer Martini is a heck of a football player wouldn't mind seeing him and Nyles Morgan play inside for us next year.

I disagree with: Chris Brown. I've never been impressed by him. Dropped balls and missed blocks at inopportune times is what I've seen. He's made some brilliant plays in the past. Hell, he had 8 catches in the GT game. But overall, I'm just 'meh' on him. Also, I disagree on Kizer not going through progressions. Pretty sure he does go through them as he's spread the ball around a little bit.

I totally agree with: Amir/CJ/Tori. Why is Amir still playing? He does absolutely nothing on kick return and he's no where near as talented as Tori in the slot. I'm so sick of seeing him hesitate to hit a hole because he seems afraid of contact. Drives me nuts. It's time to move on. He's a good backup. No way should he start and see as many reps as he does. Tori in the slot and CJ returning kicks needs to happen asap, imo. I'd like to add Corey Robinson to the list. He hasn't done much since FSU last year. I know QBs need to spread the ball around, but he's been underwhelming to me so far this year (and late last year). I know ESB is training behind Fuller, but why can't they put him on the field in Corey's spot? Serious question for anyone who may know. BK has raved about how good ESB is and would like to get him on the field more. To me, this is his chance.

 

[kmoose]

I'd like to add Corey Robinson to the list. He hasn't done much since FSU last year. I know QBs need to spread the ball around, but he's been underwhelming to me so far this year (and late last year). I know ESB is training behind Fuller, but why can't they put him on the field in Corey's spot? Serious question for anyone who may know. BK has raved about how good ESB is and would like to get him on the field more. To me, this is his chance.

Different routes and responsibilities, from outside receiver to slot guy. This isn't backyard football. Every rep spent learning the slot would be one less rep learning his future position.

Everyone want's BK and the coaches to develop guys; let them have them for the reps it takes to do so. I think that CJ Prosise is a good indication that they are able to identify guys that would succeed at other positions. If they haven't moved ESB, then there is probably a good reason for it.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Just pointing out-I really enjoy how Kizer sucked in the preseason yet now he's the second coming.

Kizer just keeping a seat warm/holding a spot for Wimbush-remember?

Let's get real for a minute. He had a decent game against GT. He will probably have a stinker of a game this year. Hopefully, he'll pull it out or the running game/D will save ND's bacon.

Interesting the way the logic of the crowd goes, isn't it? Like Kelly said to Malik, "You don't have to win it, just don't lose it!"

The defense is #29 and rising. We have a top five wide receiver and a top five running back. We haven't even scratched the surface, yet!

Interesting that Kelly talked about Randolph emerging on defense this year in his UMass PC! And about the contributions others would make including Trumbetti, and Bars!

For sure. He will face better defenses that will get to him. Someone with really talented corners will take away Will Fuller. The more tape teams have on Kizer the better they'll suss out his limited playbook. Kizer's not going to carry us to the playoffs on his own. But football's a team game, and hopefully he won't need to.

I don't know that there is a corner in the country than can cover Will one on one. At this point I doubt it, because Will is strong and quick enough to avoid the jam, at the line. Anyone who does that and doesn't play off has already lost against Will! Barring something unforeseen, like an injury, I think it takes two guys on the wide side to shut down Will. That is why Kelly is daring anyone to try.

Because that means the best they get on the short side is one on one, with the possibility of an uncovered receiver, or just as good, a linebacker on a guy like Torii or Amir!

Also I was totally wrong about the bracketed coverage on the fade route. Kelly said in the UMass PR that Corey had to hold the line and stay outside. He also mentioned that when they threw the fade, it was to a spot. So Kizer needs to find someone from the other side. He indicated that Torii was open on that play. He also mentioned that GT did a good job disguising the coverage. All and all it was a good learning experience for DK per Kelly.

Also, Kelly was pretty positive about Kizer's instincts and actions on two broken (or off schedule) plays. The pitch to Prosise and the throw to CJ as well. Kelly said DK was ahead of schedule on extending plays.

At the time I thought it was Martini, but I could be wrong.

I wasn't sure at first, but the broadcasters thought that BVG was reacting in a positive fashion to Greer, because he had just wiped out a GT ball carrier on the previous play. I remember Martini just flying to the ball and putting the fast guy on the ground. Then I saw BVG. I am sure it was the same play. But I think instead of taking off Greer's head, he was just sharing some brolic!

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Different routes and responsibilities, from outside receiver to slot guy. This isn't backyard football. Every rep spent learning the slot would be one less rep learning his future position.

Everyone want's BK and the coaches to develop guys; let them have them for the reps it takes to do so. I think that CJ Prosise is a good indication that they are able to identify guys that would succeed at other positions. If they haven't moved ESB, then there is probably a good reason for it.

Is Fuller the X-receiver?

What is C-Rob? Y?

I thought the slot guys were Amir/Tori/CJ and labeled Z?

My Xs and Os understanding is lacking here. I'm trying to get up to speed. Thanks.

 

[kmoose]

Is Fuller the X-receiver?

What is C-Rob? Y?

I thought the slot guys were Amir/Tori/CJ and labeled Z?

My Xs and Os understanding is lacking here. I'm trying to get up to speed. Thanks.

No. I think you are right.......... Robinson is Chris Brown's backup (according to the 2 deep) on the opposite side of Fuller. That depends on formation, though, obviously.

 

[Irish YJ]

Is Fuller the X-receiver?

What is C-Rob? Y?

I thought the slot guys were Amir/Tori/CJ and labeled Z?

My Xs and Os understanding is lacking here. I'm trying to get up to speed. Thanks.

I think you misread his post. He just meant each WR position has different R&R, not that anyone was a slot. You are correct in your slot depth, and yes, Z.

Rivals does a decent job of keeping up on the depth chart and positions. Here's a link to ND's.

https://notredame.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

 

[BleedBlueGold]

No. I think you are right.......... Robinson is Chris Brown's backup (according to the 2 deep) on the opposite side of Fuller. That depends on formation, though, obviously.

I think you misread his post. He just meant each WR position has different R&R, not that anyone was a slot. You are correct in your slot depth, and yes, Z.

Rivals does a decent job of keeping up on the depth chart and positions. Here's a link to ND's.

https://notredame.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

Thanks. Makes sense.

My understanding of the position and their respective responsibilities is lacking so in my mind the X and Y were always semi-interchangeable. I also thought more WRs cross-trained at these two positions as well. My mistake guys. Thanks.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Speak of the devil:

From Scout's article:

TARGET PRACTICE
For the first time this season – and for only the fourth time in the last 16 contests – someone other than Will Fuller proved to be the weapon of choice for a Notre Dame quarterback. And for the second time in that span it was Chris Brown, he of the career-high 11 targets Saturday against Georgia Tech.
Fuller was targeted on eight occasions while rookie Aliz’e Jones finished third with five (three receptions, one fumble). The remaining Irish receivers were targeted just three times (Corey Robinson 2; Torii Hunter 1) with Amir Carlisle benefitting from a pass in his direction for the first time since playing through a knee sprain against Stanford last October. He has not yet been targeted by quarterback DeShone Kizer (43 pass attempts).
The team’s targets through three games are as follows:
Will Fuller: 28 targets, 18 receptions, 5 TD, 1 drop, 22.1 yards per catch
Chris Brown: 22 targets, 14 receptions, 1 TD, 1 drop, 10.3 ypc.
C.J. Prosise: 7 targets, 5 receptions, 1 drop, 6.2 ypc.
Aliz’e Jones: 6 targets, 3 receptions, 1 drop, 1 fumble lost, 6.3 ypc.
Amir Carlisle: 5 targets, 5 receptions, 11.8 ypc.
Corey Robinson: 5 targets, 4 receptions, 11.2 ypc.
Torii Hunter: 4 targets, 3 receptions, 16.0 ypc.
Durham Smythe: 3 targets, 3 receptions, 1 TD, out for season (knee surgery)
Nic Weishar: 1 target, 1 reception, the first of his career Saturday vs. Ga. Tech
Tyler Luatua: 1 target, 0 receptions (pass thrown out of bounds)
What it means going forward: Not much at present, as it’s understandable Kizer would focus on the team’s top two talents on the perimeter. Massachusetts presents an opportunity to become more comfortable with Carlisle, Hunter, and Robinson – and a balance attack will be necessary in two of the three contests that follow.

Scout.com - College Sports, Football Recruiting, NFL, Fantasy Advice & More Front Page

 

[koonja]

You guys follow Fuller on twitter? He's so smooth, I love his tweets. He's an OG.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cause I gotta a really big team, and they need some really big rings! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Momeyseason?src=hash">#Momeyseason</a> <a href="https://t.co/kGkgEPoKJg">https://t.co/kGkgEPoKJg</a></p>— Will Fuller V (@Will_Fuller7) <a href="https://twitter.com/Will_Fuller7/status/647041350819577856">September 24, 2015</a></blockquote>
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