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SoIll said:
Here you all go, I don't give a shit. Mods can delete if they want. Fuck Polian

We lost that game in 2021, Freeman never had a chance

I'm not going to divulge too much about Powlus, a lot of it is personal and has to do with players and their families but let's just say there's reasons that we lost out on Amon Ra, Cody Simon, Sonny Styles, Eichenberg etc, many of those families never considered sending another kid to Notre Dame because the way Powlus treated players and their families. It was part of his job to look out for families and he never made a serious effort to be effective in that role and was so apathetic towards the treatment of players and their families that it drove many players and their families to absolutely despise Notre Dame. Powlus stuff goes much deeper but I don't want to say too much without telling people's personal stories, not my place. He is a genuinely bad and incompetent person (totally botched the Andy Ludwig situation, him and Hunter Bivin who is another cancer to ND football) and I don't say any of this lightly.

Polian had this golden ideal for Notre Dame that was a total fabrication of his own mind where ND was this haven for only the smartest (often white) kids from private and catholic schools who were also good at football. Polian would take a list of the top ~750 recruits in a class and strike off ~70% of the list to eliminate those who were not RKGs. Polian then would not allow the staff to make any attempt to contact these people who were outside of this narrow scope that he had set based on high school, standardized testing, geographic area (basically struck off every recruit from Florida), and unfortunately I believe sometimes race. The whole "shopping down a different aisle" thing was a figment of Polian's imagination that BK enabled him to put into practice for many years at Notre Dame.

Secondarily, Polian did everything in his power to shut down any NIL efforts in preparation for the rule change in July 2021. I was part of a group working hard on putting together some NIL efforts for HS recruits and also helped with the IPC project. Polian did everything possible to undermine those efforts. When IPC tried to involve HS recruits and pay them for media appearances he shut it down, when the other group tried to steer recruits and transfers to ND he undermined them in admissions (Josh Downs was going to come to ND for a measly $100k for the 2022 season but Polian stopped it). Polian never wanted ND players to make a penny besides "real NIL" he fought tooth and nail to stop there from being general income for every player then when he lost that battle he decided to target walk-ons and make sure that all NIL was directed towards scholarship players (disastrous for culture and team chemistry). Originally in 2021 we wanted to pay $25k to every scholly player and $2.5k to every walk on, he said it was too much and that they would all be arrested if they had that much in their pockets. He went to the press to have them torpedo any efforts and refuse to write about IPC or any ND NIL where we tried to gain momentum. He never wanted NIL numbers advertised in spite of a lot of evidence that it helped with recruiting and at the end of the day it was really him who never wanted transfers at ND, as much as admissions only wanted grad transfers, he wanted NO transfers.

Lastly, it should be known, that many would consign Peloquin to the company of Bivin, Polian, BK, and Swarbrick. Yet, Peloquin strove to elevate the Notre Dame to new heights, but he was shackled by those bums and their antiquated vision of some sort of pure white bastion of college football against the sea of darkness of NIL and players who like football more than going to class
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We land Josh Down in 2022 we probally make the playoffs gosh this is sickening any other examples of guys we could of gotten
 
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NDohio said:
No reason to look back and be in anguish about what could have been. MF is making the changes that need to be made. Look to the future - it's bright.
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I'm pretty sure we could of gotten Jaxson Dart that same season but decided not to take a QB
 
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Dale said:
A former walk on that went rouge on early NIL is mad at anyone who’s job involves red tape and telling people no

Again, this dude said he thought Freeman would never be a good coach
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I would typically agree, but another poster in that same thread that has been delivering leaks about the portal and the team agrees with just about everything ndfan69 posted.
 
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SoIll said:
Here you all go, I don't give a shit. Mods can delete if they want. Fuck Polian

We lost that game in 2021, Freeman never had a chance

I'm not going to divulge too much about Powlus, a lot of it is personal and has to do with players and their families but let's just say there's reasons that we lost out on Amon Ra, Cody Simon, Sonny Styles, Eichenberg etc, many of those families never considered sending another kid to Notre Dame because the way Powlus treated players and their families. It was part of his job to look out for families and he never made a serious effort to be effective in that role and was so apathetic towards the treatment of players and their families that it drove many players and their families to absolutely despise Notre Dame. Powlus stuff goes much deeper but I don't want to say too much without telling people's personal stories, not my place. He is a genuinely bad and incompetent person (totally botched the Andy Ludwig situation, him and Hunter Bivin who is another cancer to ND football) and I don't say any of this lightly.

Polian had this golden ideal for Notre Dame that was a total fabrication of his own mind where ND was this haven for only the smartest (often white) kids from private and catholic schools who were also good at football. Polian would take a list of the top ~750 recruits in a class and strike off ~70% of the list to eliminate those who were not RKGs. Polian then would not allow the staff to make any attempt to contact these people who were outside of this narrow scope that he had set based on high school, standardized testing, geographic area (basically struck off every recruit from Florida), and unfortunately I believe sometimes race. The whole "shopping down a different aisle" thing was a figment of Polian's imagination that BK enabled him to put into practice for many years at Notre Dame.

Secondarily, Polian did everything in his power to shut down any NIL efforts in preparation for the rule change in July 2021. I was part of a group working hard on putting together some NIL efforts for HS recruits and also helped with the IPC project. Polian did everything possible to undermine those efforts. When IPC tried to involve HS recruits and pay them for media appearances he shut it down, when the other group tried to steer recruits and transfers to ND he undermined them in admissions (Josh Downs was going to come to ND for a measly $100k for the 2022 season but Polian stopped it). Polian never wanted ND players to make a penny besides "real NIL" he fought tooth and nail to stop there from being general income for every player then when he lost that battle he decided to target walk-ons and make sure that all NIL was directed towards scholarship players (disastrous for culture and team chemistry). Originally in 2021 we wanted to pay $25k to every scholly player and $2.5k to every walk on, he said it was too much and that they would all be arrested if they had that much in their pockets. He went to the press to have them torpedo any efforts and refuse to write about IPC or any ND NIL where we tried to gain momentum. He never wanted NIL numbers advertised in spite of a lot of evidence that it helped with recruiting and at the end of the day it was really him who never wanted transfers at ND, as much as admissions only wanted grad transfers, he wanted NO transfers.

Lastly, it should be known, that many would consign Peloquin to the company of Bivin, Polian, BK, and Swarbrick. Yet, Peloquin strove to elevate the Notre Dame to new heights, but he was shackled by those bums and their antiquated vision of some sort of pure white bastion of college football against the sea of darkness of NIL and players who like football more than going to class
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is SoIII Bryan Driskell?
I know Driskell has had a ton of frustration and (reserved) takes about Peloquin, Bivin, Polian and Powlus (etc).
PLUS we all know that Driskell used to use Carleton dancing gif for commits before they went public...
 
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FightingIrishLover7 said:
is SoIII Bryan Driskell?
I know Driskell has had a ton of frustration and (reserved) takes about Peloquin, Bivin, Polian and Powlus (etc).
PLUS we all know that Driskell used to use Carleton dancing gif for commits before they went public...
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whoa? Why am I getting hit with strays?
 
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SoIll said:
All I did was copy and paste the post from 247? My bad, won't do it again.
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irishjim said:
He’s still around. Very visible on game day too.

Ron Powlus

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Yeah he is always in the background of pics/videos in the locker room and on the sideline. His job title is deputy athletic director for football. He certainly seems involved.
 
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From personal experience, anyone that has beef with Katy Lonergan is doing something wrong!
 
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I don't know Polian personally, and I could see some of what was said being the case...but some of it doesn't jive. He only wanted to go after white players with a certain GPA, region, etc? He was one of the big reasons we landed Manti. Polian has had some kind words towards Notre Dame too since leaving. People basically called him out when we made the playoff and he fired back how he loved the university and wasn't asked to be retained by Marcus' staff, which is why he followed BK. Said he's got a lot of friends still at the university and would never trash them. Again, don't know the guy personally, just feel like he's gotten a bit of a bad rap from fans when he made some (Up and down) contributions to special teams and certainly recruiting.

As far as Powlus, I don't know him either, but this is the first I've ever heard anything negative about him. Seemed like he always represented the university well, and he's worked for us for a number of years now. He's spent almost 20 years at ND at this point between college, coaching, and working in the athletic office. If he's had a performance issue I would think it would have come up sooner. At one point he was highly thought of, but that came from earlier in his career. I haven't heard anything recent.

I've never really heard a thing about Bivin in his administrative role, but then again the poster didn't really explain why he didn't like him either. I think we need more details. Again, hard to believe a guy that had 3 heart surgeries at ND, chose to come back to work in the athletic office...AND brought his brother to the team as an offensive analyst would have some kind of axe to grind against ND or be some kind of malcontent.
 
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IrishFanForever23 said:
I would typically agree, but another poster in that same thread that has been delivering leaks about the portal and the team agrees with just about everything ndfan69 posted.
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He’s been wrong and/or walked back things for weeks now

I know these two have been right about some leaks (that many guessed at with no info), but I really don’t think they speak for the state of the program
 
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