Father beats daughter's rapist to death, won't be charged

[clashmore_jon]

Molesting a 5 year old is also laying down some serious, serious hurt, no?.

Texas for sure has it right on this one.

not as serious, no. you can't argue that point, death is worse end of story.

 

[Irish Insanity]

He took it easy on the guy. After all, he did tell 911 that he wasn't sure the guy was gonna make it. He shoulda made sure he didn't.

 

[Ironman8]

not as serious, no. you can't argue that point, death is worse end of story.

I'm sorry, I can argue that point. I personally know a woman who was severely sexually assaulted, and her existence was abysmal for a long, long time - which included 3 suicide attempts. A person committing such a heinous act that in and of itself is reprehensible & with great penalty, and ultimately leads to the innocent victim wishing for her own death multiple times, deserves such a punishment in my opinion, especially in this case where it is a 5 year old girl.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Can't say for sure that I would have killed him as I wasn't in the situation. My heart says that I would have and felt no remorse. The idea of being Bubba's bit*h for the next 40 years also has a sense of justice in it as well. In the end, he got what he deserved.

 

[woolybug25]

ummm. so murder is ok on this board or what? that's what the guy did. He got pissed off an MURDERED someone. and no i don't believve it was self defense, as the guy wasnt posing a threat of killing them.

i know you're all gonna say 'oh yeah yeah i'd do this if it were my daughter'. and i totally get that. but if you do it, you deserve to go to jail.

Did you actually read it? You know that he didn't "believe" that the guy molested his daughter and bypassed the judicial system.

The man walked in on the actual act. What would you have done?

I personally have no doubt that I would have killed the guy. No freaking question.

 

[Kak7304]

I'm sorry, I can argue that point. I personally know a woman who was severely sexually assaulted, and her existence was abysmal for a long, long time - which included 3 suicide attempts. A person committing such a heinous act that in and of itself is reprehensible & with great penalty, and ultimately leads to the innocent victim wishing for her own death multiple times, deserves such a punishment in my opinion, especially in this case where it is a 5 year old girl.

Exactly. Sexual assault and molestation often results in taking their life away and forcing them to live with it.

 

[Rhode Irish]

not as serious, no. you can't argue that point, death is worse end of story.

I believe that child molestation is as bad as murder. Maybe worse, depending on the motive for the murder.

 

[clashmore_jon]

I'm sorry, I can argue that point. I personally know a woman who was severely sexually assaulted, and her existence was abysmal for a long, long time - which included 3 suicide attempts. A person committing such a heinous act that in and of itself is reprehensible & with great penalty, and ultimately leads to the innocent victim wishing for her own death multiple times, deserves such a punishment in my opinion, especially in this case where it is a 5 year old girl.

Exactly. Sexual assault and molestation often results in taking their life away and forcing them to live with it.

I believe that child molestation is as bad as murder. Maybe worse, depending on the motive for the murder.

ok so you guys are saying that you'd rather come out and find that a guy murdered your 5 year old daughter? and at the same time front your awesome uber hardcore awesome job you're doing at being a dad? i'm not buying what you're selling.

Did you actually read it? You know that he didn't "believe" that the guy molested his daughter and bypassed the judicial system.

The man walked in on the actual act. What would you have done?

I personally have no doubt that I would have killed the guy. No freaking question.

I did not say that. i said that i think the killer should face punishment. it should be illegal to get angry and beat someone to death. even if the guy comes at you with a gun--at some point while you are beating him to death he is no longer a threat and that is when you should stop and involve the law.

 

[Irish4Life09]

YES THEY DESERVE TO DIE AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL! - YouTube

Someone please embed this for me

 

[pkt77242]

ok so you guys are saying that you'd rather come out and find that a guy murdered your 5 year old daughter? and at the same time front your awesome uber hardcore awesome job you're doing at being a dad? i'm not buying what you're selling.



I did not say that. i said that i think the killer should face punishment. it should be illegal to get angry and beat someone to death. even if the guy comes at you with a gun--at some point while you are beating him to death he is no longer a threat and that is when you should stop and involve the law.

First off, many molesters kill their victim, so that is one thing. Two it is as bad as murder, different but just as evil of a crime. Many victims of rape never recover, and the suicide rate is significantly higher for them then most other populations. Three, are you a parent? If so, I don't know how to respond, if not, then you can not understand the protectiveness that you feel towards your child and what harm you can do to someone who would dare to hurt your child in that way. Fourth, the molester deserved much worse. I mean much worse. This isn't a case of a dad catching his 14yo daughter having sex with an 18 year old. This is a ****ing grown man molesting a 5yo. The dad should have made sure he was dead first then called 911, so that there was zero chance that this man could ever hurt another child again.

 

[pkt77242]

YES THEY DESERVE TO DIE AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL! - YouTube

Someone please embed this for me

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

I can see why the "slippery slope" crowd would not be so happy with vigilante justice.

But man that dude deserved to die.

 

[clashmore_jon]

First off, many molesters kill their victim, so that is one thing. Two it is as bad as murder, different but just as evil of a crime. Many victims of rape never recover, and the suicide rate is significantly higher for them then most other populations. Three, are you a parent? If so, I don't know how to respond, if not, then you can not understand the protectiveness that you feel towards your child and what harm you can do to someone who would dare to hurt your child in that way. Fourth, the molester deserved much worse. I mean much worse. This isn't a case of a dad catching his 14yo daughter having sex with an 18 year old. This is a ****ing grown man molesting a 5yo. The dad should have made sure he was dead first then called 911, so that there was zero chance that this man could ever hurt another child again.

are you a herion addict? If not, then you can not understand the desire to smoke heroin that drives you to break into peoples cars.

it's the same logic.

you're just arguing for vigilante-ism. really, that's the world you want to live in? and finally i'm not saying that i dont understand how you guys feel. I'm saying that if it happened to me, i would fully expect to go to jail and i would consider it just.

 

[BeauBenken]

While I believe strongly to leave punishments to the justice system, I would not hold this against anyone. And I may likely do the same if a man was trying to rape my daughter and I caught him in the act.

 

[pkt77242]

are you a herion addict? If not, then you can not understand the desire to smoke heroin that drives you to break into peoples cars.

it's the same logic.

you're just arguing for vigilante-ism. really, that's the world you want to live in? and finally i'm not saying that i dont understand how you guys feel. I'm saying that if it happened to me, i would fully expect to go to jail and i would consider it just.

You are kidding right? You obviously aren't a parent. There is a time and place for 99% of things in life (oddly Rape is in the 1% in that it is never ok). This is one of the times that killing someone is perfectly fine. If you can't understand that, then you want a black and white world where everything is good or bad. Life is shades of grey (or gray if you prefer) and the situation in which it happens determines if it is good or bad. In this case, the Dad is a Hero and should be celebrated as such. The molester should be vilified.

 

[Freeman Ara]

are you a herion addict? If not, then you can not understand the desire to smoke heroin that drives you to break into peoples cars.

it's the same logic.

you're just arguing for vigilante-ism. really, that's the world you want to live in? and finally i'm not saying that i dont understand how you guys feel. I'm saying that if it happened to me, i would fully expect to go to jail and i would consider it just.

So if this was a 25 year old woman that killed her attempted rapist while fending him off, would she deserve to go to jail? Murder is murder, right?

From the sound of it the guy tried to let the police handle it but he made sure the guy wasn't a threat first. In the heat of the moment how do you know when to stop. The 7th punch the 8th?

And no matter how you feel about it, right or wrong, there isn't a jury in Texas that would have convicted the father.

 

[GATTACA!]

ok so you guys are saying that you'd rather come out and find that a guy murdered your 5 year old daughter? and at the same time front your awesome uber hardcore awesome job you're doing at being a dad? i'm not buying what you're selling.



I did not say that. i said that i think the killer should face punishment. it should be illegal to get angry and beat someone to death. even if the guy comes at you with a gun--at some point while you are beating him to death he is no longer a threat and that is when you should stop and involve the law.

When i read your first comment i figured you had to be trolling. What you are saying here goes beyond trolling and is actually quite ****ed up.

If your daughter was in the same exact situation i can say with confidence that me along with most, if not all of the other posters in this thread, would have the balls to step up and do what you couldnt. i typically reread posts where i make bold statements to make sure i really want to post them, but **** it you have me that pissed off.

GO TEXAS!

 

[pkt77242]

So if this was a 25 year old woman that killed her attempted rapist while fending him off, would she deserve to go to jail? Murder is murder, right?

From the sound of it the guy tried to let the police handle it but he made sure the guy wasn't a threat first. In the heat of the moment how do you know when to stop. The 7th punch the 8th?

And no matter how you feel about it, right or wrong, there isn't a jury in the US that would have convicted the father.

FIFY

 

[pkt77242]

A couple more thoughts

1. My wife would also kill the molester. No questions asked. It is a primal thing. Look how Moma Bears react when you **** with their cubs. You die.

2. I am not normally a violent person. I generally believe that you can avoid most violence. The exceptions are if you try to harm my child. Then no mercy is given, and the consequence could easily be death, and I would expect the same of any parent.

3. Holy ****, I can't believe we even need to debate this topic.

 

[Rhode Irish]

A couple more thoughts

1. My wife would also kill the molester. No questions asked. It is a primal thing. Look how Moma Bears react when you **** with their cubs. You die.

2. I am not normally a violent person. I generally believe that you can avoid most violence. The exceptions are if you try to harm my child. Then no mercy is given, and the consequence could easily be death, and I would expect the same of any parent.

3. Holy ****, I can't believe we even need to debate this topic.

I only posted this because I honestly thought "oh good, finally something we can all agree on."

 

[BobD]

I hope he experienced great pain before he died and that he continues to suffer in hell for eternity.

 

[clashmore_jon]

When i read your first comment i figured you had to be trolling. What you are saying here goes beyond trolling and is actually quite ****ed up.

If your daughter was in the same exact situation i can say with confidence that me along with most, if not all of the other posters in this thread, would have the balls to step up and do what you couldnt. i typically reread posts where i make bold statements to make sure i really want to post them, but **** it you have me that pissed off.

GO TEXAS!

sure that's fine but as i've said 17 times (does they teach readin' in TEXAS?) i'm not critizing him for doing it, i just think he should serve a little time and hopefully come out with a better handle on his rage issue.

So if this was a 25 year old woman that killed her attempted rapist while fending him off, would she deserve to go to jail? Murder is murder, right?

From the sound of it the guy tried to let the police handle it but he made sure the guy wasn't a threat first. In the heat of the moment how do you know when to stop. The 7th punch the 8th?

And no matter how you feel about it, right or wrong, there isn't a jury in Texas that would have convicted the father.

yes absolutely, if she kicked his *** to the point that he was no longer raping her and no longer a threat, then she should stop.

You are kidding right? You obviously aren't a parent. There is a time and place for 99% of things in life (oddly Rape is in the 1% in that it is never ok). This is one of the times that killing someone is perfectly fine. If you can't understand that, then you want a black and white world where everything is good or bad. Life is shades of grey (or gray if you prefer) and the situation in which it happens determines if it is good or bad. In this case, the Dad is a Hero and should be celebrated as such. The molester should be vilified.

no one should have the right to inflict death on another person.

and you really think the daughter is better off watching her dad kill a guy with his bare hands, than seeing her father still protect her, but no pummel somebody to death?

 

[NDWorld247]

sure that's fine but as i've said 17 times (does they teach readin' in TEXAS?) i'm not critizing him for doing it, i just think he should serve a little time and hopefully come out with a better handle on his rage issue.

LOL.

 

[Freeman Ara]

Just ****ing wow.....

 

[pkt77242]

sure that's fine but as i've said 17 times (does they teach readin' in TEXAS?) i'm not critizing him for doing it, i just think he should serve a little time and hopefully come out with a better handle on his rage issue.



yes absolutely, if she kicked his *** to the point that he was no longer raping her and no longer a threat, then she should stop.



no one should have the right to inflict death on another person.
and you really think the daughter is better off watching her dad kill a guy with his bare hands, than seeing her father still protect her, but no pummel somebody to death?

Killing is not black and white. There is a time and a place for it. This is a time and place for it.

Also have you ever been in a fight? Have you ever been in a situation where you feared for your life or someone else's life? The line of where to stop is not easy to see if not almost impossible to find. This isn't a rage issue and if you think it is, you need to go read up on human psychology and physiology.

 

[phork]

sure that's fine but as i've said 17 times (does they teach readin' in TEXAS?) i'm not critizing him for doing it, i just think he should serve a little time and hopefully come out with a better handle on his rage issue.

Rage issue. Do you understand what a parent would do for their kids? Clearly you aren't one and cannot relate. I have a 5 year old daughter. There is no limit to what I would do with a turd doing this to her. I can tell you that he wouldn't be found. And it would be painful, and long.

 

[GATTACA!]

sure that's fine but as i've said 17 times (does they teach readin' in TEXAS?) i'm not critizing him for doing it, i just think he should serve a little time and hopefully come out with a better handle on his rage issues

First im not from Texas, but nice try. Second, you are saying that a person that finds a man raping his five year old daughter doesn't have justifiable reason for his rage? Any sane person who comes upon that situation would be enraged. It's not like someone ran into his car and he murdered them, that would be considered rage/emotional issues.

I think you where trying to play devils advocate and didn't realize the **** storm you where bring on yourself, and now you are just being stubborn. IE can't agree on anything, yet somehow we all agree you are completely in the wrong.

 

[WaveDomer]

You can kill someone with one punch if it hits the right area. So, for all we know, this guy landed a few haymakers on the rapist and happened to hit the guy's temple or whatever other area that lead to death. It happens. That's why getting in a fist fight is kind of dumb. And if you know how to fight through boxing or martial arts, you are even more dangerous. I'm sure this dad's adrenaline was pumping and he flew all over the guy. But the fact that he called 911 asking for help, kind of gives you the idea that he didn't expect the guy to die. Plus, according to the law he is in the clear. If he shot the guy he would have been in the clear according to that law. I understand being worried about vigilante justice, but I don't think this fits the case. If someone tries to harm your family, you protect your family. That's what this dad was doing. He wasn't wandering around the Texas prairie looking to exact vigilante justice.

 

[clashmore_jon]

You can kill someone with one punch if it hits the right area. So, for all we know, this guy landed a few haymakers on the rapist and happened to hit the guy's temple or whatever other area that lead to death. It happens. That's why getting in a fist fight is kind of dumb. And if you know how to fight through boxing or martial arts, you are even more dangerous. I'm sure this dad's adrenaline was pumping and he flew all over the guy. But the fact that he called 911 asking for help, kind of gives you the idea that he didn't expect the guy to die. Plus, according to the law he is in the clear. If he shot the guy he would have been in the clear according to that law. I understand being worried about vigilante justice, but I don't think this fits the case. If someone tries to harm your family, you protect your family. That's what this dad was doing. He wasn't wandering around the Texas prairie looking to exact vigilante justice.

for all we know he curbstomped the guy or something, which seems way more likely than landing a lucky (or unlucky) blow.

 

[clashmore_jon]

First im not from Texas, but nice try. Second, you are saying that a person that finds a man raping his five year old daughter doesn't have justifiable reason for his rage? Any sane person who comes upon that situation would be enraged. It's not like someone ran into his car and he murdered them, that would be considered rage/emotional issues.

I think you where trying to play devils advocate and didn't realize the **** storm you where bring on yourself, and now you are just being stubborn. IE can't agree on anything, yet somehow we all agree you are completely in the wrong.

there is no justifiable reason to kill someone when it is avoidable. and you're the one that was all up on texas.

and yeah, i'm real stressed about the shitstorm.