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How much more time does Dyche get at Everton? Can’t be much.

Edited …lol. Maybe he just bought a bit of time.

That being said what does Calvert Lewyn get paid for? I don’t get how he still has a spot on this team. Dudes xG has to be so small.
 
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Cackalacky2.0 said:
Im of two minds. I feel bad for tenHag because the players just dont seem to be good enough but also I dont really feel bad because I 'd like ManU to keep going with him.
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He seemed to have a lot of influence on who they were signing. Hence all the former Ajax players. I thought he was incredibly arrogant based on the soundbytes he was giving the media.
 
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If the players weren't good enough then blame ten hag because he's the reason many of them were at united...
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Yeah I’m not saying Antony, Onana etc have played well…. But the large majority of the players on the roster are pre tenHag. Lindelloff, Maguire, Shaw, Bruno, Dallot, Rashford, etc. I want to say I recall Gold bridge mentioning that even when Jose was sacked he told the brass there were numerous players on his roster that needed to be gotten rid of and they are still currently on the roster.
 
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Yeah I’m not saying Antony, Onana etc have played well…. But the large majority of the players on the roster are pre tenHag. Lindelloff, Maguire, Shaw, Bruno, Dallot, Rashford, etc. I want to say I recall Gold bridge mentioning that even when Jose was sacked he told the brass there were numerous players on his roster that needed to be gotten rid of and they are still currently on the roster.
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Cackalacky2.0 said:
Yeah I’m not saying Antony, Onana etc have played well…. But the large majority of the players on the roster are pre tenHag. Lindelloff, Maguire, Shaw, Bruno, Dallot, Rashford, etc. I want to say I recall Gold bridge mentioning that even when Jose was sacked he told the brass there were numerous players on his roster that needed to be gotten rid of and they are still currently on the roster.
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They've spent $800 million on players since Ten Hag arrived. 21 players across 5 transfer windows.

The fact they have no identity and a midfield you can cut through like piss through snow is completely on him. Delusional and arrogant in most of his press conferences on top of all of it.
 
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Ugarte, Yoro, DeLigt haven’t even had a real chance to play or acclimatize to the team but yeah that’s a lot money for mediocrity. If you had of told me Casmeiro would end up a dud I wouldn’t believe you. Zirkzee is a proper unit IMO. Could be great but can’t get any service. Hjoland has been disappointing for sure. Martinez is a good defender but his size is an issue. I’d never have brought him in as a CB in the PL.
 
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I know they've had some changes operationally to the front office, but it's really not a job you'd want to touch right now, but someone is going to be up for the challenge. It will be interesting when you consider that this is likely Guardiola's last season at City and they have the charges hanging over them. Assuming they don't relegated or slapped with sanctions, City is going to be the more coveted job.

Ruben Amorim wanted more money than Mikel Arteta gets at Arsenal. It would seem that either Manchester club might be willing to give it to him when Liverpool would not and his negotiations with West Ham and Chelsea never got off the ground.

I think United is going to end up with Southgate.
 
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www.nytimes.com

Manchester United working on deal to appoint Ruben Amorim as head coach

Manchester United are working on a deal to appoint Sporting Lisbon’s Ruben Amorim as their new head coach. Sources in Portugal, speaking anonymously as they’re not authorised to discuss the matter, have told The Athletic the 39-year-old is open to taking up the opportunity after Erik ten Hag was...
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Here it is.

Liverpool reportedly passed on Amorim because they want the same playing style and tactics implemented for all of the age groups in the club. Alonso and Slot were good with that, Amorim was not. Alonso stayed at Leverkusen, Liverpool hired slot. Amorim was also supposedly asking for a salary that would have put him second only to Guardiola (and not much less than where Klopp was at Liverpool).

Amorim is also a back three guy. That could prove to be interesting with what United currently has.
 
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Sounding like United and Amorim are talks. This had to have been going on via back channels.

Sporting Lisbon has 9 wins in 9 matches with 30 goals scored and 2 allowed. You have to wonder what Amorim is going to be able to do with this squad coming in at November. What's the ceiling at United, 6th?

Then he has to sell off the players he doesn't want for a loss and find guys he wants next summer.

They're stuck in a washing machine right now.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
Sounding like United and Amorim are talks. This had to have been going on via back channels.

Sporting Lisbon has 9 wins in 9 matches with 30 goals scored and 2 allowed. You have to wonder what Amorim is going to be able to do with this squad coming in at November. What's the ceiling at United, 6th?

Then he has to sell off the players he doesn't want for a loss and find guys he wants next summer.

They're stuck in a washing machine right now.
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They still could make CL next year if the win Europa League so there is that. It I also question when he will take over. They are only 7 points off 5th place weven though they are in 14th but they haven’t even played six of their toughest matches yet.
 
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This was such a weird game in the end. I really felt like Liverpool never got out of second gear and they had all that other stuff against them and they managed a draw. Still seems to me like Liverpool dropped points instead of taking points from Arsenal. Slots subs and second half tactics definitely impacted the team for the better but Arsenals subs and injury replacements did ok but ultimately seemed to just see the game out.

I hate to say it but Robertson looked well off the pace against Arsenals wide players. He is my favorite lunchpail kind of guy but he looked well off it in this game. Tsimikas did well coming in for him.
 
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I like Amorim, but at this point, you can't help but think that Man United is just starting another cycle with this guy. He probably could have waited for City or another job, but that's not how these carousel situations work in the end. There isn't often a right time or a wrong time.

I think as long as Ferguson is a presence at that club, they're going to be in that shadow.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
I like Amorim, but at this point, you can't help but think that Man United is just starting another cycle with this guy. He probably could have waited for City or another job, but that's not how these carousel situations work in the end. There isn't often a right time or a wrong time.

I think as long as Ferguson is a presence at that club, they're going to be in that shadow.
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I hate keep quoting Goldbridge but he was saying this morning that Amorim didn’t want to wait on Pep and possibly that job may be toxic in the near future. I’d at least wait and see what the result is for MC and their legal issues before signing on to take over. Speculation I know but makes sense to me.

Amorim plays 3 at the back but does ManU even have 6 fit CBs to play and rotate in the current fixture load? I think Amorim will be fine but there is a lot a dead wood and non-ManU type of players that have to get cleared out.
 
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I hate keep quoting Goldbridge but he was saying this morning that Amorim didn’t want to wait on Pep and possibly that job may be toxic in the near future. I’d at least wait and see what the result is for MC and their legal issues before signing on to take over. Speculation I know but makes sense to me.

Amorim plays 3 at the back but does ManU even have 6 fit CBs to play and rotate in the current fixture load? I think Amorim will be fine but there is a lot a dead wood and non-ManU type of players that have to get cleared out.
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If City gets thrown back into the pub league with sanctions, which I don't foresee happening, you can at least survey the landscape for other jobs. I understand why United want Amorim, but truthfully, this should have been done over the summer. Ten Hag won the FA Cup and it bought him what....five months? They've been terrible in the league and embarrassing in Europe.

Something to consider. You look at how long it took Klopp to build up Liverpool, for Arteta to build up Arsenal. Much of that is getting the dead weight out in addition to the signings. Manchester United is a complete mess right now. Ajax rejects and malcontents. I'd argue they are far worse off than their two rival clubs were.

Amorim has been at or near the top in Portugal with Sporting. He could seemingly have his pick of jobs. I understand why he's going with Man United, but I also don't understand it. It's really become a similar situation to Chelsea. The money and recognition are there, but you're going to be fired sooner or later. Amorim, in one year, could be looking at getting sacked by Christmas.
 
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This was such a weird game in the end. I really felt like Liverpool never got out of second gear and they had all that other stuff against them and they managed a draw. Still seems to me like Liverpool dropped points instead of taking points from Arsenal. Slots subs and second half tactics definitely impacted the team for the better but Arsenals subs and injury replacements did ok but ultimately seemed to just see the game out.

I hate to say it but Robertson looked well off the pace against Arsenals wide players. He is my favorite lunchpail kind of guy but he looked well off it in this game. Tsimikas did well coming in for him.
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Arsenal were miles better from 20th minute to halftime. Liverpool flipped it in the second half, but a lot of that was Arsenal seemingly content with just holding onto that 2-1 rather than going for the kill. I think before the match Liverpool takes the point. At halftime you take the point. Once it was 2-2, with Garbiel and Timber having gone off, there was a sense they were vulnerable sure. In the end, they get a point where they dropped points last year. In the big picture that's critical.

Saka is very good, but Robertson was awful. Not just defending but on the ball going forward. As good as Saka is, Robertson just looked done in most of that game. He's played a shit load of football for club and country, turned 30 this year. Could be coming down to the end of it.

Arsenal can do so many different things tactically. It's going to be interesting to see how they do in this next run of games. If this is their floor with injuries and red cards, that's a good floor for October. Should be noted that this time last year, LFC had one more red card than Arsenal does now. They had two players sent off in one match. Plus the biggest VAR fuck up so far. IT's a long season of ups and downs. You have to handle the downs and keep going. City and Liverpool have shown this. Arsenal has to absorb the setbacks. That starts with the boss.
 
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I get that Man U is a big brand, but I hate how an irrelevant team dominates soccer headlines so often.
 
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