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Any serious golfers out there who have gone through a club-fitting process? I'm looking to sign up for Titleist's "Tee-to-Green" fitting and invest some money into my first "real" set of clubs. (I've always had a mixed bag of hand-me-downs.)

I'm typically your average golfer, with scores in the 90s. Never had a lesson (which is on the to-do list at some point). I've hit cavity backs, Titleist MB blades most of my life by default because it's what was given to me. I recently hit the Titleist AP1 and AP2 irons and while the AP1s are more for my handicap range, because I'm used to blades and CBs, the AP2s felt better to me. I'm curious what the TPI pro will say at my fitting. I've read a lot of guys hit a mixed bag of AP1s and 2s, so maybe that's my best option.

Also will be getting fitted for Vokey wedges. Probably a 52 and 56, I would assume.
 

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Any serious golfers out there who have gone through a club-fitting process? I'm looking to sign up for Titleist's "Tee-to-Green" fitting and invest some money into my first "real" set of clubs. (I've always had a mixed bag of hand-me-downs.)

I'm typically your average golfer, with scores in the 90s. Never had a lesson (which is on the to-do list at some point). I've hit cavity backs, Titleist MB blades most of my life by default because it's what was given to me. I recently hit the Titleist AP1 and AP2 irons and while the AP1s are more for my handicap range, because I'm used to blades and CBs, the AP2s felt better to me. I'm curious what the TPI pro will say at my fitting. I've read a lot of guys hit a mixed bag of AP1s and 2s, so maybe that's my best option.

Also will be getting fitted for Vokey wedges. Probably a 52 and 56, I would assume.


I'm looking to get fitted next spring, and AP1s and 2s are some that I'm interested in. My current set was eyeballed by my dad whom I learned the game off of. They are Nike SQ Machspeeds with a stiff shaft. They have served me well and have gotten me to hitting high 80s.

Everything I've heard from people who have done it say to get fitted, which includes my college roommate that is an assistant golf pro. Hitting mixed is definitely something people have been doing. The benefits of more forgiveness with long irons is attractive. I would also suggest looking for a local golf fitting business/golf course (not a chain) to do the fitting at, though going through Titelist itself isn't in and of itself a bad thing.

Good luck, and hit 'em straight.
 

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I'm looking to get fitted next spring, and AP1s and 2s are some that I'm interested in. My current set was eyeballed by my dad whom I learned the game off of. They are Nike SQ Machspeeds with a stiff shaft. They have served me well and have gotten me to hitting high 80s.

Everything I've heard from people who have done it say to get fitted, which includes my college roommate that is an assistant golf pro. Hitting mixed is definitely something people have been doing. The benefits of more forgiveness with long irons is attractive. I would also suggest looking for a local golf fitting business/golf course (not a chain) to do the fitting at, though going through Titelist itself isn't in and of itself a bad thing.

Good luck, and hit 'em straight.

Reps. Thanks.

I have a relative who's TPI certified, so I will probably get fitted with Titleist and use the discount. Without that, I agree, it's probably better to find a local place. From what I've heard, they will apply the cost of the fitting to the purchase of the clubs and with Titleist that isn't the case.
 

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Reps. Thanks.

I have a relative who's TPI certified, so I will probably get fitted with Titleist and use the discount. Without that, I agree, it's probably better to find a local place. From what I've heard, they will apply the cost of the fitting to the purchase of the clubs and with Titleist that isn't the case.

That works!

Yeah a lot of the fitters will wave the fee fully or at least partial (usually half) if you buy with them.
 

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Any serious golfers out there who have gone through a club-fitting process? I'm looking to sign up for Titleist's "Tee-to-Green" fitting and invest some money into my first "real" set of clubs. (I've always had a mixed bag of hand-me-downs.)

I'm typically your average golfer, with scores in the 90s. Never had a lesson (which is on the to-do list at some point). I've hit cavity backs, Titleist MB blades most of my life by default because it's what was given to me. I recently hit the Titleist AP1 and AP2 irons and while the AP1s are more for my handicap range, because I'm used to blades and CBs, the AP2s felt better to me. I'm curious what the TPI pro will say at my fitting. I've read a lot of guys hit a mixed bag of AP1s and 2s, so maybe that's my best option.

Also will be getting fitted for Vokey wedges. Probably a 52 and 56, I would assume.

I replace my clubs every five or six years, and have been "fit" a few times.

It helps your game tremendously, IF you can consistently repeat your swing.

Since you're a mid-90's player, I would recommend you go with a game improvement iron.
Imo, the best brand for forgiveness is Ping. Give the G or the new G400 irons a try before you buy!

Get a Scotty putter and some Vokey wedges, but be open to other brands to fill out your bag.
Heck, I wouldn't even be married to the Vokeys.
Callaway Mack Daddy wedges are like pieces of art!

You can still wear a Titleist hat if you just play a ProV1 and putt with a Scotty!
 

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I always have my clubs fitted and highly recommend it (granted I am 6'6" and most clubs are too short) because I have found they focus more on the club angle at impact. If you are definitely going to get serious, I would also find someone in your area for lessons. Working with someone you like and who is a good teacher will improve your scoring exponentially. Only do it if you have time to work on what you are taught, otherwise it can hurt the game the next time you actually play.
 

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I replace my clubs every five or six years, and have been "fit" a few times.

It helps your game tremendously, IF you can consistently repeat your swing.

Since you're a mid-90's player, I would recommend you go with a game improvement iron.
Imo, the best brand for forgiveness is Ping. Give the G or the new G400 irons a try before you buy!

Get a Scotty putter and some Vokey wedges, but be open to other brands to fill out your bag.
Heck, I wouldn't even be married to the Vokeys.
Callaway Mack Daddy wedges are like pieces of art!

You can still wear a Titleist hat if you just play a ProV1 and putt with a Scotty!

I ve had this done more times than I would like to admit, here's my 2 cents go with Ping and any of their 3 game improvement products, you can pay for the fitting as Ping is really the easiest to understand then go to any of the many used golf outlets on the internet and see if they have your clubs-you will save 40-50%. I am a 7/8 handicap and even I stay away from the Titleist product-they are hard to play with even in their game improvement series. Another product is the Cobra clubs which I have used for 10 years and they have been wonderful. Recently though I have done something I researched for 5 years (as golf has become my hobby after baseball ended) and went to Thomas Golf on the internet made the phone call and play all hybrids all the way up to and including PW. Today a shot 74 from the whites on a long course. If you really want to play something the average 20 plus handicap can master try Thomas Golf if just for peace of mind that you know what they can do for you. I now only carry a gw and sw. Golf is a hard learn and these clubs are extremely forgiving.
 

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I ve had this done more times than I would like to admit, here's my 2 cents go with Ping and any of their 3 game improvement products, you can pay for the fitting as Ping is really the easiest to understand then go to any of the many used golf outlets on the internet and see if they have your clubs-you will save 40-50%. I am a 7/8 handicap and even I stay away from the Titleist product-they are hard to play with even in their game improvement series. Another product is the Cobra clubs which I have used for 10 years and they have been wonderful.

I'm a 12 cap and agree with the bolded. I've had a 913 driver and a 915 3w and struggle to be consistent with them. The numbers were off the charts when I could actually hit them, but my misses were total disasters! Forget about getting their 3w up off the deck.
 

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I replace my clubs every five or six years, and have been "fit" a few times.

It helps your game tremendously, IF you can consistently repeat your swing.

Since you're a mid-90's player, I would recommend you go with a game improvement iron.
Imo, the best brand for forgiveness is Ping. Give the G or the new G400 irons a try before you buy!

Get a Scotty putter and some Vokey wedges, but be open to other brands to fill out your bag.
Heck, I wouldn't even be married to the Vokeys.
Callaway Mack Daddy wedges are like pieces of art!

You can still wear a Titleist hat if you just play a ProV1 and putt with a Scotty!

I've looked into Ping. I didn't really like them. I've played Cobra cavity backs and Titleist MBs almost my whole life. It's just what was given to me. Tbh, the main reason I shoot in the 90s is because I have a terrible short game.

I LOL'd at the hat comment. Just yesterday I was in a pro shop and found a sweet retro style Callaway hat, but talked myself out of it because I don't own a single item that is Callaway.

I always have my clubs fitted and highly recommend it (granted I am 6'6" and most clubs are too short) because I have found they focus more on the club angle at impact. If you are definitely going to get serious, I would also find someone in your area for lessons. Working with someone you like and who is a good teacher will improve your scoring exponentially. Only do it if you have time to work on what you are taught, otherwise it can hurt the game the next time you actually play.

Lessons are next on my list. Completely agree that it'll be beneficial to my game.

I ve had this done more times than I would like to admit, here's my 2 cents go with Ping and any of their 3 game improvement products, you can pay for the fitting as Ping is really the easiest to understand then go to any of the many used golf outlets on the internet and see if they have your clubs-you will save 40-50%. I am a 7/8 handicap and even I stay away from the Titleist product-they are hard to play with even in their game improvement series. Another product is the Cobra clubs which I have used for 10 years and they have been wonderful. Recently though I have done something I researched for 5 years (as golf has become my hobby after baseball ended) and went to Thomas Golf on the internet made the phone call and play all hybrids all the way up to and including PW. Today a shot 74 from the whites on a long course. If you really want to play something the average 20 plus handicap can master try Thomas Golf if just for peace of mind that you know what they can do for you. I now only carry a gw and sw. Golf is a hard learn and these clubs are extremely forgiving.

See above. Not a fan of Ping and I'm used to Titleist. I've heard a lot of people say they're a hard club to master, but I'm pretty consistent 3-8 iron. 9-iron and wedge play is where I have drastic fall off with distance control.

My bag now is currently Cobra cavity backs. Love them, but they're old and beat up from being second hand. I've hit a ton of different brands in practice and by far the best feel, numbers, consistency for me is with Titleist.

I'm a 12 cap and agree with the bolded. I've had a 913 driver and a 915 3w and struggle to be consistent with them. The numbers were off the charts when I could actually hit them, but my misses were total disasters! Forget about getting their 3w up off the deck.

Current driver is the 913 D3. Got a sweet deal on a brand new one. Prior to buying it, I hit quite a few different brands. Like the irons, my numbers were much better and far more consistent with the 913.

I haven't attempted to hit their fairway series yet though. I've never been a good fairway/hybrid hitter. Hell, I'll still grab a 2-iron if it's available over a wood.
 

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Stick with cobra. The f7 line of irons and woods is amazing and the pur wedges are sweet.

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All good stuff here for guys getting into golf-by far my favorite sport and you guys know I used to play baseball. These club options are just that options and all the info may make it a little easier for some new guys into the game. I'll say this though these new hybrids ( 2 months ) have been unbelievable. They tend to hit the ball higher so I have got the distance backed up one club. 9 is where my old cobra pitching wedge was and the hybrid pw is like a lob wedge. I'm actually only using the GW for pitching/chipping and SW for around the green sand play. The darn things (hybrids) are pretty good even out of traps for longer play. I ordered 5/7/9/pw then filled in the 6/8 as I was playing 2/3/4 hybrids already. My iron play has always held me back as I still hit it about 265-280 and putt well enough-these clubs have really made a difference and if anyone wants more info just let me know. Thomas Golf and they make custom to your needs. Here's the thing-the precision that it takes to hit an iron is eliminated with these hybrids-I just play them like the old 5 wood of past days and pick them off ( shallow swing path ) with no more fat shots or bladed play. I only wish I would have discovered these clubs 15 years ago. They have been a blast.
 

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Stick with cobra. The f7 line of irons and woods is amazing and the pur wedges are sweet.

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I picked up a Cobra driver several years ago and after that I was hooked. I finally upgraded my irons last year and I love the Fly-Zs I got. In a year or two I will upgrade my driver and potentially 3-wood to the new Cobras. I haven't hit a 3 wood all year though just because I'm crushing the 2/3 Fly-Z hybrid.
 

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It's been over a month since I first asked about getting fitted. Current status:

I scheduled my fitting with a local club fitter, only to learn that Titleist has a new line of irons coming out in September. So I cancelled my appointment and just recently rescheduled a bag fitting on Titleist Thursdays. It's free! And clearly the Titleist reps will know more about that specific line of irons. I'm really looking forward to it. Just stinks that I won't have them until October. If I'm lucky, I'll have maybe two months to play before snow falls.

I'm eyeing the AP2s. I've hit them before. Even though my handicap doesn't really fit the category (hell, Jordan Spieth plays these), nothing beats the feel of hitting a forged iron, imo.

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I bought forged Titleist a few years back because I , you know, wanted them. Felt I was a pretty good golfer. Found out I wasn't that good. LOL When you hit the sweet spot they are perfect. I was about 10% on that was the problem.
 

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Titleist will be offering 6 different models. If you are looking at the AP2 you will probably really like the new model. Different cavity with lots of tungsten weighting. It's a very nice look. They are also coming out with a AP3. It's basically a AP2 look with the easy to hit qualities of a AP 1. The lofts are super jacked up. The PW is only 43 degrees so getting the club set configuration can be a bit dodgy.
 

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Titleist will be offering 6 different models. If you are looking at the AP2 you will probably really like the new model. Different cavity with lots of tungsten weighting. It's a very nice look. They are also coming out with a AP3. It's basically a AP2 look with the easy to hit qualities of a AP 1. The lofts are super jacked up. The PW is only 43 degrees so getting the club set configuration can be a bit dodgy.

Aside from feel and sound, the lofts are what really give me hesitation with the AP1 and AP3. I know they're made for distance/forgiveness, but like you said, good luck with gapping. I'm really curious what the numbers reveal and what the fitter has to say when I get fitted next week. I'm envisioning a mixed bag:

3i: one of: 818 H1, T-MB, AP3, or AP2
4i: one of: T-MB, AP3, or AP2
5-PW: AP2

The thing is, I'm a mid-handicap player, but it's mostly because of my poor short game and inconsistent driving. I usually hit my irons quite well (for the most part). So I'm slightly nervous to mention my avg score to the fitter and have him place me in the AP1, AP3 category, eventhough I've played with blades and cavity backs my whole life.
 

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I'll be at the Fed Ex Cup event Mon. in Norton Ma. (even though all the TV coverage promotes it as being in Boston). Will be in the Suite on 17th green. If you hear someone yell "Go Irish" while a putt is en route to the cup, that's me.
 

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I'll be at the Fed Ex Cup event Mon. in Norton Ma. (even though all the TV coverage promotes it as being in Boston). Will be in the Suite on 17th green. If you hear someone yell "Go Irish" while a putt is en route to the cup, that's me.

Fantastic! I'm going to the BMW up near Chicago in three weeks. Will be my 3rd BMW. It's so much fun.
 

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Aside from feel and sound, the lofts are what really give me hesitation with the AP1 and AP3. I know they're made for distance/forgiveness, but like you said, good luck with gapping. I'm really curious what the numbers reveal and what the fitter has to say when I get fitted next week. I'm envisioning a mixed bag:

3i: one of: 818 H1, T-MB, AP3, or AP2
4i: one of: T-MB, AP3, or AP2
5-PW: AP2

The thing is, I'm a mid-handicap player, but it's mostly because of my poor short game and inconsistent driving. I usually hit my irons quite well (for the most part). So I'm slightly nervous to mention my avg score to the fitter and have him place me in the AP1, AP3 category, eventhough I've played with blades and cavity backs my whole life.

It will be interesting to hear how your fitting went. In speaking with Titleist last week the direction they and other manufacturers are heading is a priority on ball speed. Titleist was tired of going to demo days and having golfers hit other brands 5-10 yds further with irons. If you go on Trackman look at all the numbers not just ball speed. The set configuration that gives you the best gapping and tightest dispersion pattern will be the way to go.
 

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It will be interesting to hear how your fitting went. In speaking with Titleist last week the direction they and other manufacturers are heading is a priority on ball speed. Titleist was tired of going to demo days and having golfers hit other brands 5-10 yds further with irons. If you go on Trackman look at all the numbers not just ball speed. The set configuration that gives you the best gapping and tightest dispersion pattern will be the way to go.

I can see how weekend golfers would be easily enamored with farther distances, but I agree, it's better to have a set that is consistent and doesn't have gaps. It's one of the main reasons I'm not thrilled with the AP1 and AP3 lofts. Carry distance, as it pertains to gapping the entire set, is important to me. Ball speed and spin rates are things I'll look at as well.

What is the process like during a Titleist Thursday session? Will I get to try all of the irons to see which one I like? Or do they prefer I have a good idea of what I want prior? I think it would be kind of cool to grab a 7i and a 4i and hit a few balls with all six of their new lineups. Then narrow down which ones I actually like best and sort my set out from there. Does the 45 min allow for something like that?
 

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Me2SouthBend;1919834... If you hear someone yell "Go Irish" while a putt is en route to the cup said:
Just, please, Please, PLEASE, PLEASE do not be one of those Yahoos who scream "In The Hole!"

3' putt, 30' putt, 30 yard chip (or bunker shot), 300 yard drive – screaming at the ball has no influence.

Be a blue hair at an ND game and keep your mouth shut!
 

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I can see how weekend golfers would be easily enamored with farther distances, but I agree, it's better to have a set that is consistent and doesn't have gaps. It's one of the main reasons I'm not thrilled with the AP1 and AP3 lofts. Carry distance, as it pertains to gapping the entire set, is important to me. Ball speed and spin rates are things I'll look at as well.

What is the process like during a Titleist Thursday session? Will I get to try all of the irons to see which one I like? Or do they prefer I have a good idea of what I want prior? I think it would be kind of cool to grab a 7i and a 4i and hit a few balls with all six of their new lineups. Then narrow down which ones I actually like best and sort my set out from there. Does the 45 min allow for something like that?

You can do more intricate fitting if you already know which iron you want. However,
At first try a couple different models in the 7 iron to get an idea of which iron is best for you. The gapping is easier with AP2. You should get dialed in after 45 min. You will really enjoy the process.
 

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You can do more intricate fitting if you already know which iron you want. However,
At first try a couple different models in the 7 iron to get an idea of which iron is best for you. The gapping is easier with AP2. You should get dialed in after 45 min. You will really enjoy the process.

Thanks twig. Quick question: You say the gapping is easier with the AP2, but what if I substituted the 3 and 4 irons for the AP3? If so, I'll have a 5-degree difference in loft between the AP3 4i and the AP2 5i. Is that a big deal?
 

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Thanks twig. Quick question: You say the gapping is easier with the AP2, but what if I substituted the 3 and 4 irons for the AP3? If so, I'll have a 5-degree difference in loft between the AP3 4i and the AP2 5i. Is that a big deal?

That is a excellent question. When Zach Johnson was with Titleist he did the same thing.
Then he subsituted the AP1 long irons. When you work with the Titleist fitter you can discuss the gapping in regards to using a AP3 4 iron. The lofts are so strong that it does make it a slight issue. If he agrees that 5 degrees is not optimal Titleist can weaken the AP3 irons 1 or 2 degrees. I have seen that work it alot of cases. It's a blast when you get your set configuration dialed in like that. Even better when it pays off with lower scores.
If you have time ask him about your wedge gapping. That is how you really lower your score. Cheers!
 

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That is a excellent question. When Zach Johnson was with Titleist he did the same thing.
Then he subsituted the AP1 long irons. When you work with the Titleist fitter you can discuss the gapping in regards to using a AP3 4 iron. The lofts are so strong that it does make it a slight issue. If he agrees that 5 degrees is not optimal Titleist can weaken the AP3 irons 1 or 2 degrees. I have seen that work it alot of cases. It's a blast when you get your set configuration dialed in like that. Even better when it pays off with lower scores.
If you have time ask him about your wedge gapping. That is how you really lower your score. Cheers!

Thanks. I literally can't wait.

I have a separate session scheduled for Vokey wedges. I'm assuming with AP2 PW at 46, I'll get a 50, 54, and 58. I read a Bob Vokey quote about how weekenders, like myself, don't really need a 60 and that a 58 is not only just fine, but it's better gapping too.

I'm really looking forward to dialing in my whole set. I've played with the same used clubs for almost 20 years now and I'm so intrigued to see how much better I can play with some equipment that's newer and fit to me specifically.
 

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Quick update (short version): Based on my current swing mechanics, it was suggested that I play either the AP1 or the AP3. I couldn't hit the sweet spot consistently on the AP2, causing more miss-hits and thin shots. The forgiveness of the former two listed cover up my poor striking. The good news is that I came away with some answers. The bad news is that I really love the AP2. I love the look of the them and I love the feel of a forged iron when you hit that sweet spot.

Up next are wedges and woods. Then I'll have some tough decisions to make. Because I'm totally torn spending $1000 on a set that I hit well but I'm not crazy about how they look versus taking some lessons and trying to get better at hitting the AP2 so I can purchase those in the spring. Looks shouldn't matter, but for some reason, I just can't get over it. I'd gladly sacrifice the 10 yards per iron if I could hit the AP2 pure. I feel like I'm settling for the AP3 (eventhough all the numbers scored better....which it's designed to do).
 

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After what was a disaster trying to order my new set of clubs, they have finally arrived!

What was not mentioned above (for anyone who cares) is that I took some time to work on my swing before officially ordering my clubs. Two minor tweaks to my swing and I've hit more sweet spots with more consistency than before allowing me to go ahead and feel comfortable ordering a combo set.

917 F2 15-degree (3 wood)
3i-4i: 718 AP3
5i: 718 AP2 bent one degree strong to blend the gap
6i-PW: 718 AP2
Vokey SM6 wedges: 50, 54, 58

Why no hybrids you may be wondering? Well 1) I can still hit a solid long iron and 2) the hybrids are expensive compared to a standard iron. So maybe in the future I'll upgrade. At my fitting session, I hit them almost identical.

What tweaks did I make? Better hand position (for keeping the face closed) and really worked on the forward lateral shift to start my downswing. In the past I kept too much weight on my back foot and tried to "help loft the ball." Those two things have made a giant difference in my ball striking and are allowing me to hit each club 10+ yards farther.

Ready for golf season!!

Oh yea, scored some Masters tickets this year too. CANNOT WAIT!
 
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