Ebay Scammer over Rudy Blu-ray

[Andy in Sactown]

So I'm about 90% sure this person from Burlington, Iowa is attempting to get a Rudy Blu-ray without having to pay for it by claiming they never received it and opening a case with ebay/paypal for "item not received", even though I can track it all the way to "DELIVERED" on their doorstep at 2:18pm May 28.

Every time I message them, they take DAYS to respond and it's always a kick-back to my message in the resolution center with an unpunctuated one liner akin to, "says here, but never got it" in the hopes I accidentally click ok, thus refunding them the purchase price AND the shipping costs.

I don't know which I am more pissed about. The ebay scammer, or the fact it's potentially an Irish fan trying to scam a Rudy Blu-ray (un-****ing believable).

*drops the mic*

 

[BeauBenken]

You sold your Rudy Blu-ray? The hell man...

 

[BGIF]

You sold your Rudy Blu-ray? The hell man...

I was thinking perhaps this was justice but decided not to add to Andy's anguish.

 

[BeauBenken]

I agree that if this guy is trying to scam you, that's a shame. Can't stand that stuff.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

You sold your Rudy Blu-ray? The hell man...

I was thinking perhaps this was justice but decided not to add to Andy's anguish.

I am in the process of liquidating my rather large Blu-ray collection. Rest assured, Rudy in full 1980p high definition goodness is safe and sound in my archives; both on my primary movie NAS, "Big Vault" and on my back-up server, "Biggie Smalls" (As well as game film from the past 3 seasons, specials, etc.).

When I think of discs now I just feel kind of like how Doc. Brown must have felt before he said, "Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads".

Just the irony that I can sell Resident Evil, Robocop, Weeds Seasons 1-3, etc. etc. etc. and the one buyer that tries to scam me bought Rudy. WHISKEY-TANGO-FOXTROT.

 

[dshans]

Not that this would help you, but how did you ship the disc? USPS, UPS, FedEx, DHL? Was a signature required on delivery?

I ask because in the last week or so a person or persons have apparently zoned in on the typical UPS delivery time for an area about a mile from me. They follow the truck and packages dropped off at the front door are then pilfered. Sadly, "Delivered" doesn't always mean "Received" when there are miscreants around.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Not that this would help you, but how did you ship the disc? USPS, UPS, FedEx, DHL? Was a signature required on delivery?

USPS Flat rate. No signature or insurance due to the item being sold for a mere $10. My understanding is that if it is "delivered" then the seller is not responsible. The buyer could file a $10 claim on their homeowner's insurance if they felt like they were robbed and wanted to get that $10.

Thieves and scammers shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt over well regarded sellers with tracking information.

I ask because in the last week or so a person or persons have apparently zoned in on the typical UPS delivery time for an area about a mile from me. They follow the truck and packages dropped off at the front door are then pilfered. Sadly, "Delivered" doesn't always mean "Received" when there are miscreants around.

Makes me wish I could hand load a 12-gauge shotgun shell with rock salt and not get sued for it.

 

[dshans]

USPS Flat rate. No signature or insurance due to the item being sold for a mere $10. My understanding is that if it is "delivered" then the seller is not responsible. The buyer could file a $10 claim on their homeowner's insurance if they felt like they were robbed and wanted to get that $10.

Thieves and scammers shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt over well regarded sellers with tracking information.

Does sound fishy. Especially if he has a mail slot or a locked mailbox. Mail theft is a federal offense. Is there a way for you to find out from E-Bay if this person has a history of similar claims?

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Does sound fishy. Especially if he has a mail slot or a locked mailbox. Mail theft is a federal offense. Is there a way for you to find out from E-Bay if this person has a history of similar claims?

My understanding is that ebay does keep record of individual accounts and their respective cases, but does not provide that information for external consumption. We are left with the "feedback rating" as a sole indicator.

 

[md_bennett]

Came across something like this recently. Found out that sometimes the USPS will mark something delivered up to 3-4 days before actual delivery. I had to have the post office scour their local office and make sure it was not there, and ask the delivery guy if he put something somewhere different. Turns out a few more days and it came in.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Came across something like this recently. Found out that sometimes the USPS will mark something delivered up to 3-4 days before actual delivery. I had to have the post office scour their local office and make sure it was not there, and ask the delivery guy if he put something somewhere different. Turns out a few more days and it came in.

Tracking showed item as delivered May 28th, 2:18pm. Certainly not an issue here. This is just a scammer and a bad one at that. They tried to have their cake and eat mine too.

 

[NDohio]

USPS Flat rate. No signature or insurance due to the item being sold for a mere $10. My understanding is that if it is "delivered" then the seller is not responsible. The buyer could file a $10 claim on their homeowner's insurance if they felt like they were robbed and wanted to get that $10.

Thieves and scammers shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt over well regarded sellers with tracking information.



Makes me wish I could hand load a 12-gauge shotgun shell with rock salt and not get sued for it.

This is Rudy we are talking about?!?!?!

 

[Andy in Sactown]

For being expensive as **** a few years back, the used Blu-ray market is ****. I wouldn't even try to sell them if I didn't start out with over a hundred of them.

It was worth it back in 2005 for 1080p, but you can easily download Blu-ray rips that are in full HD nowadays (and stream them to any of your devices without some ******, scratch prone [optical media] disc).

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Escalated to eBay for a decision. Hopefully they come through for me. I do keep a naughty list however.. Electronic Arts is lonely on that one.. maybe today's the day..*

*Corporate list. IE user naughty list is significantly longer and less sensical. Naughty is nice, team reckless, etc. Sample entries: Pat -- Reason: Cocaine, GB -- Reason: Nice Hat, Whiskey -- Reason, 1911 .45 ACP. You never can tell if they're good or bad.. mostly.

 

[ThePiombino]

I just can't over the fact that people actually pay for physical media these days.

 

[BobD]

That's Iowa for ya. Build it and they will come, but ship it and they won't receive it.

Friggin children of the corn.

 

[In Lou I Trust]

That's Iowa for ya. Build it and they will come, but ship it and they won't receive it.

Friggin children of the corn.

Watch it, Bob!

BTW... Children of the corn is technically Nebraska.

 

[BobD]

Watch it, Bob!

BTW... Children of the corn is technically Nebraska.

Haha just kidding buddy.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Well that was fast. I was found not at fault. Ebay is refunding the buyer (presumably from their own insurance/funds) and releasing my funds to me.

I was ready to get hot on this. Thank goodness I don't need an ice bath with the guys for health reasons....



I do however expect that they just gave a scammer positive reinforcement. Ebay sellers beware!-- The scammers have the upper hand here!

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[pumpdog20]

That's Iowa for ya. Build it and they will come, but ship it and they won't receive it.

Friggin children of the corn.

Freaking Iowa, where the biggest city has a french name!

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I didn't know they had Rudy on Blu-Ray. Shame on these "ND fans" for trying to rip you off.

 

[BobD]

I'm guessing it was a Michigan fan. You know they all watch Rudy in secret.

 

[ulukinatme]

I only got scammed once on Ebay. Bought a rare Lego Millenium Falcon set, the largest one Lego produced. Something like 6000 pieces, it's worth thousands now. Anyway, found a seller with great feedback, spent about $400 on the thing at the time, and back then Paypal wasn't really a mandatory thing so the guy requested money order as payment. Sent the money order with confirmation and everything, requested tracking, etc. Guy said it shipped, but he never gave a tracking number and weeks went by without a Millenium Falcon on my doorstep.

Well, I tried getting with the dude and getting a resolution. He told me it should be in the mail, he has the tracking number somewhere, etc. After a couple run arounds I escalated it within Ebay. I have no idea if I got the new support guy or what, but after providing documentation of completion/cashed money order on my end and nothing from the other guy...he basically got away with nothing but negative feedback. I was a little pissed, but I was done fighting over $400 that I obviously didn't need if I was spending it on Legos.

Fast forward 6 months, I check the guy's feedback again for shits and giggles...he has another negative hit (His only other one other than mine) for failing to deliver on the same Millenium Falcon. Dude was shipping out of Detroit, not far from Ann Arbor. **** Michigan, rot in hell, etc. That is all.