Eagles Fire Kelly

[stlnd01]

I can't find the thread with the list of coaching vacancies. What are the best college jobs available?

Edit: I found the thread. Is Ball State really the only FBS opening left?

The big jobs moved quick to fill seats, as recruiting's in full swing and, frankly, this year's firings came fairly early. So yeah, for Chip to land in college in 2016 at this point would probably mean someplace firing someone to get him, which gets expensive real quick. Unless someone loses a coach to the NFL.
But if I'm Kelly and the NFL doesn't come knocking, why not just take a year off and call my shot for 2017?

 

[NDgradstudent]

I can't find the thread with the list of coaching vacancies. What are the best college jobs available?

The Finebaum film room for the Bama/MSU game?

 

[Irish2155]

The big jobs moved quick to fill seats, as recruiting's in full swing and, frankly, this year's firings came fairly early. So yeah, for Chip to land in college in 2016 at this point would probably mean someplace firing someone to get him, which gets expensive real quick. Unless someone loses a coach to the NFL.
But if I'm Kelly and the NFL doesn't come knocking, why not just take a year off and call my shot for 2017?

Very good point. That is why I think TA&M is the place if any, this year. Outside of that I don't see too many other places...a year off might be refreshing. All big jobs will have him on speed dial.

 

[Circa]

Now that would be something...

NO! In fact that would be what I consider Nothing. Absolute absence of any Thing.

 

[Irish2155]

NO! In fact that would be what I consider Nothing. Absolute absence of any Thing.

LOL. I didn't mean in results...more so how the change of events. I've made it clear BK is our guy.

 

[NDWorld247]

The big jobs moved quick to fill seats, as recruiting's in full swing and, frankly, this year's firings came fairly early. So yeah, for Chip to land in college in 2016 at this point would probably mean someplace firing someone to get him, which gets expensive real quick. Unless someone loses a coach to the NFL.
But if I'm Kelly and the NFL doesn't come knocking, why not just take a year off and call my shot for 2017?

Yea, that seems like the most likely scenario at this point.

A&M is an intriguing option but I don't see them paying Sumlin's buyout.

 

[Irish2155]

Yea, that seems like the most likely scenario at this point.

A&M is an intriguing option but I don't see them paying Sumlin's buyout.

Oh, don't know about that...I think if they pay it Chip Kelly being head coach was the end result.

They just forked out money left and right to give the illusion of a top program. Might as well pay for the "right" coach as well.

And btw, IMO, TAM would be nasty for anyone to deal with C Kelly at the helm...I'm happy USC's spot is filled.

 

[KPENN]

Why is everyone here(besides me i think) dismissing/not mentioning the titans?

 

[NDWorld247]

Why is everyone here(besides me i think) dismissing/not mentioning the titans?

I just saw this tweet from Jay Glazer...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly said few times he really wants to remain in the NFL</p>— Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/682011308581990400">December 30, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquoteclass="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In my convo w Chip he said next stop he just wants to coach & insists he does NOT want to be the personnel guy too. This is significant</p>— Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/682034263693209600">December 30, 2015</a></blockquote> <script asyncsrc="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If Kelly stays in the NFL, and it sounds like he does, Tennessee is a logical landing spot with the QB he recruited in college and tried to get in the draft last year...

 

[KPENN]

I just saw this tweet from Jay Glazer...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly said few times he really wants to remain in the NFL</p>— Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/682011308581990400">December 30, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquoteclass="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In my convo w Chip he said next stop he just wants to coach & insists he does NOT want to be the personnel guy too. This is significant</p>— Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/682034263693209600">December 30, 2015</a></blockquote> <script asyncsrc="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If Kelly stays in the NFL, and it sounds like he does, Tennessee is a logical landing spot with the QB he recruited in college and tried to get in the draft last year...

It almost makes too much sense, Mariotta, smaller market, another top pick(probably #1 overall).

 

[NDPhilly]

Do you want to become the Browns. Because this is how you become the Browns.

 

[Irish2155]

Do you want to become the Browns. Because this is how you become the Browns.

Currently Browns = Titans. Can't get much worse. I understand you Philly fans are scarred but I think it would be a good fit...especially with a good GM.

 

[phillyirish]

The big jobs moved quick to fill seats, as recruiting's in full swing and, frankly, this year's firings came fairly early. So yeah, for Chip to land in college in 2016 at this point would probably mean someplace firing someone to get him, which gets expensive real quick. Unless someone loses a coach to the NFL.
But if I'm Kelly and the NFL doesn't come knocking, why not just take a year off and call my shot for 2017?

Not necessarily. Though, I think he remains in the NFL, after the NFL season regular season finishes next week more coaches will get fired and some teams may look to grab college coaches (Jim Mora, B. Kelly, maybe even Harbaugh), thus opening some quality positions.

 

[phgreek]

Wow, genuinely surprised. I bet USC brass is kicking themselves lol

that was my first thought as well...

I'm a Steeler fan, but tonight, I love me some Jeffrey Lurie just a lil' bit for taking all year to think about it....

Chip Kelly belongs in the PAC...and I'm guessing he is the next coach at SC...Helton is a dead man walking, and he'll be a convenient casualty of Haden getting fired next year...enter the new AD, and Kelly....so long as he doesn't have some lingering unresolved issue with the NCAA. But ND will have one more year of USC in disarray.

 

[Irish#1]

Haven't read the previous posts, but I just never saw this as a good fit. Kelly's offense is not suited for the pros. You need more players to run his uptempo and then he dialed it down which took away his biggest advantages. Teams figured it out pretty quickly. It's been proven many times since the wishbone you can't run your QB with any regularity. His other and perhaps biggest problem was control. You can't treat players in the NFL the same way you treat kids in college. In college, you have all the leverage, but not in the NFL. IMO Kelly is a college coach and would be best to be there. Given the results, I'm not sure he'll get another shot in the NFL.

 

[Irish Insanity]

It's clear he's not a people person. There aren't to many people that are around him for any length of time that like him. Maybe that's the reason CFB worked so much better for him. 3-5 year is the max you had to be around him.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

It's clear he's not a people person. There aren't to many people that are around him for any length of time that like him. Maybe that's the reason CFB worked so much better for him. 3-5 year is the max you had to be around him.

Kinda like Harbaugh in that respect it seems.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly said he wouldn't consider going to NFL unless he had total control of franchise. "I don't think that's happening any time soon."</p>— Mike Vorel (@mikevorel) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/682236981170933760">December 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly said he wouldn't consider going to NFL unless he had total control of franchise. "I don't think that's happening any time soon."</p>— Mike Vorel (@mikevorel) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/682236981170933760">December 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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This is why BK won't go to the NFL. Because any NFL team worth a shit will never give their head coach "full control"

 

[Luckylucci]

It's clear he's not a people person. There aren't to many people that are around him for any length of time that like him. Maybe that's the reason CFB worked so much better for him. 3-5 year is the max you had to be around him.

Yea, he even rubbed some Oregon folks the wrong way at times, even though he was insanely successful. When that success starts to wane, the attitude becomes even harder to deal with.

 

[ulukinatme]

Currently Browns = Titans. Can't get much worse. I understand you Philly fans are scarred but I think it would be a good fit...especially with a good GM.

Come now, one does not become the Browns until you've had decades of crappy play. The Browns have had one winning season and it was almost 10 years ago. The Titans have had a few, one of which was a 13 win season. The Titans wish they could excel at failing as the Browns do.

 

[Irish2155]

Come now, one does not become the Browns until you've had decades of crappy play. The Browns have had one winning season and it was almost 10 years ago. The Titans have had a few, one of which was a 13 win season. The Titans wished they could fail as well as the Browns do.

LOL, fair enough. Lets just agree they are both pretty bad as of this post...granted, the Browns have been bad since before Nashville even had a football team.

 

[KPENN]

Haven't read the previous posts, but I just never saw this as a good fit. Kelly's offense is not suited for the pros. You need more players to run his uptempo and then he dialed it down which took away his biggest advantages. Teams figured it out pretty quickly. It's been proven many times since the wishbone you can't run your QB with any regularity. His other and perhaps biggest problem was control. You can't treat players in the NFL the same way you treat kids in college. In college, you have all the leverage, but not in the NFL. IMO Kelly is a college coach and would be best to be there. Given the results, I'm not sure he'll get another shot in the NFL.

Well for one he hardly ever ran the QB with the eagles. I don't think teams figured it out as much as he overthought things, he gutted the talent to bring in "his guys", didn't work. Control? I think it's kinda foolish to bring up that kinda stuff unless you know what was going on in the locker room. Given the results? He had 2 10 win seasons and took a team that was worst in the division to first in his first year. Like I said, his biggest mistake was taking over player personal decisions.

 

[dwshade]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly said he wouldn't consider going to NFL unless he had total control of franchise. "I don't think that's happening any time soon."</p>— Mike Vorel (@mikevorel) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/682236981170933760">December 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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This is why BK won't go to the NFL. Because any NFL team worth a shit will never give their head coach "full control"

Belichick has it, Carroll has it. Dan Quinn here in Atlanta has it. As to Brian Kelly I think people have completely overblown his interest in the NFL based on a very brief talk with the Eagles three years ago. Only a small handful of NFL jobs are better than the best college jobs.

 

[stlnd01]

Pretty much every coach in the NFL (Pete Carroll being a major exception) seems miserable. I don't know why you'd want that job.

 

[kmoose]

Belichick has it, Carroll has it. Dan Quinn here in Atlanta has it. As to Brian Kelly I think people have completely overblown his interest in the NFL based on a very brief talk with the Eagles three years ago. Only a small handful of NFL jobs are better than the best college jobs.

Carroll apparently DOESN'T have it, or people would be worried about what kind of contract HE would be giving Marshawn Lynch, not what kind of contract the GM is going to give Lynch.......

Seattle Seahawks RUMORS: NFL Execs Fear Schneider Will 'Blink' In Kam Chancellor Holdout? : Sports : Headlines & Global News

 

[dwshade]

Carroll apparently DOESN'T have it, or people would be worried about what kind of contract HE would be giving Marshawn Lynch, not what kind of contract the GM is going to give Lynch.......

Seattle Seahawks RUMORS: NFL Execs Fear Schneider Will 'Blink' In Kam Chancellor Holdout? : Sports : Headlines & Global News

Carroll was hired first then he and Allen hired Schneider. Schneider wouldn't be there without Carroll's approval. Schneider does his job but Carroll has final say on the roster.

 

[kmoose]

Carroll was hired first then he and Allen hired Schneider. Schneider wouldn't be there without Carroll's approval. Schneider does his job but Carroll has final say on the roster.

But what Kelly wants is TOTAL control of the FRANCHISE. Not just the roster.

 

[dwshade]

But what Kelly wants is TOTAL control of the FRANCHISE. Not just the roster.

When a coach says he wants "total control" he's talking not just about coaching players but also picking the players in the draft and free agency. And he gets the say in who the GM is who handles the stuff a coach simply doesn't have time for. Such as scouting, contracts, cap situation, etc. As Bill Parcells once said if I'm resposible for the cooking then I should be able to buy the groceries. Or something to that effect.

 

[irishff1014]

When the players are happy you're gone that says something.