Dockworkers Strike

[GATTACA!]

Yeah I'm a lineman and guys who can't keep up get fired and sent back to the hall. People love talking how unions are bad guess what my package that the contractor pays for includes my insurance and my pension. You always have higher rates in the union as well because who would have thought that if all employees are banded together and the company you work for can't just run rough shot over people things would be better

 

[NorthDakota]

Absolutely not. But if I were to ask for a 77% pay raise and they countered at 50 % I would take that and run.

They claim they want less automation but yet they they strike so it gives more opportunity for the exact thing they are fighting against.

If you want less/no automation, I agree it seems counterproductive to incentive that very thing.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The mouth breathers are panic buying toilet paper now because of this dock strike.

Ironically, these people are complete and total asswipes.

 

[RDU Irish]

Stocking up on paper products made in the USA b/c ports are closed makes total sense.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Stocking up on paper products made in the USA b/c ports are closed makes total sense.

We are a simple people

 

[Irish#1]

From an employer perspective I think one of the most frustrating things with union workers is not paying them more, but rather it’s damn near impossible to fire someone for underperforming. A smart negotiator will stay away from auto-increases every year and negotiate a pay for performance plan.

Use to work for a company that had union workers in the factory. I heard a number of conversations amongst those guys talking about how to do less work. Their contract called for them to make so many bearings an hour. They figured if they kept missing the quota, in the next negotiation, they could argue that the quota was too high and needed to be reduced making it easier to meet the quota and then get a bonus.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

The mouth breathers are panic buying toilet paper now because of this dock strike.

Ironically, these people are complete and total asswipes.

Don’t act surprised. Have you read this board during game day?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Don’t act surprised. Have you read this board during game day?

Oh, I didn't want to give the impression I was surprised. That post was just a statement.

Don't sell the board short. There is a seven day a week consistency you can set your watch to.

 

[RDU Irish]

Use to work for a company that had union workers in the factory. I heard a number of conversations amongst those guys talking about how to do less work. Their contract called for them to make so many bearings an hour. They figured if they kept missing the quota, in the next negotiation, they could argue that the quota was too high and needed to be reduced making it easier to meet the quota and then get a bonus.

Been a minute but my uncle's union would pretty much restrict overtime for use by those nearing retirement so they could pump up their top earning years heading into retirement. Those pensions plans are expensive AF for a reason. Tony Soprano protecting your platinum health plan and pension plans is totally justified.

 

[Irish2155]

The mouth breathers are panic buying toilet paper now because of this dock strike.

Ironically, these people are complete and total asswipes.

Lol. My lady stocked up on 5 stacks of toilet paper from Costco yesterday and didn’t even pickup one of their pizza. Her new nickname now is asswipe.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Lol. My lady stocked up on 5 stacks of toilet paper from Costco yesterday and didn’t even pickup one of their pizza. Her new nickname now is asswipe.

This is an even bigger issue than the TP panic buy.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

I thought it was who would you rather have a beer with.

It is my understanding that one of the candidates doesn't drink alcohol and the VP on that ticket looks like a wine cooler type of guy.

Sent my mail in ballot Monday.

You think a hillbilly Marine is a wine cooler guy? Moon shine!

 

[ab2cmiller]

Does any TP even get shipped through the ports?

 

[FDNYIrish1]

Was in a construction union for 8 years and am now in a municipal union. I appreciate the training and benefits I’ve been able to earn due to those unions. But I’ve never been part of a negotiation looking for a 77% raise. I don’t see how you can restrict automation in any field nowadays. Human capital should always be most important but society is advancing so quickly I don’t know how it can be stopped or limited with the amount of money at stake.

 

[Irish#1]

Sure, if what they were asking for is a jobs guarantee to go with increased technology + automation, that'd be reasonable. That's not what they're asking for.

What they're asking for is like if the candle makers union tried to get electricity banned because it threatened their jobs. And worse if they somehow had a monopoly on all lighting and said "everyone has to live in the dark until we get a 80% pay raise."

Btw the union president is mob connected, makes insane money, has a yacht and drives a Bentley. This isn't fighting for hard working Americans, it is extortion.

Daggett lives in Sparta, New Jersey. His 7,136 square-foot house valued at $1.7 million, according to the New York Post.

Daggett formerly owned the Obsession – a 76-foot yacht. Critics have used the yacht and his Bentley to contrast between his lifestyle and his role as an advocate for blue-collar workers.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Does any TP even get shipped through the ports?

No.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Oh, I didn't want to give the impression I was surprised. That post was just a statement.

Don't sell the board short. There is a seven day a week consistency you can set your watch to.

Hopefully someone points out that this could possibly be Landow’s fault

 

[Dizzyphil]

I guess growing up in the South, I never understood Unions and how they work. There are only a couple down here - Sheetmetal seems to be the only one left that I know about. There used to be Electrical, Plumbing and Welder's. None are here anymore - only reason I know Sheetmetal or MetalWorkers is because my cousin is in it. I used to have to go to Jersey and NY to Project Manage some jobs and the Union people hated us coming up and doing the work. We did have to have a Union rep near by to do some things and had a checklist. I had a pretty good relationship with everyone of them I worked with. The only thing they would say is we worked too fast!! LOL.

 

[Sea Turtle]

If I was offered a 50% raise

Stocking up on paper products made in the USA b/c ports are closed makes total sense.

 

[NDVirginia19]

I, for one, would rather my job not be replaced by a robot. I don't think that's greed.

We're about to watch the dockworkers set the "speed run getting your job replaced by a robot any %" record here lol. National critical infrastructure, you turn down a 50% raise and threaten to tank the US economy? Why should we not automate these jobs?

 

[Irish#1]

Does any TP even get shipped through the ports?

My TP gets shipped through the port every time I flush.

 

[BeatSC]

This is an even bigger issue than the TP panic buy.

I bet she got the $1.50 1/3 lb hotdog combo and maybe even the chicken bake.

 

[irishff1014]

Why is it always the bottom of the totem pole (hourly employees) that has to take the brunt/blame of "rising costs"? Why should they work a little harder for a little less. Like the minimum wage argument for McDonalds.

How about we look at the thousands of corporate execs that are making well into the 6 and seven figure salaries and decide if those salaries are too much and contributing to the shrinking bottom line? McDonald's CEO alone makes almost $20million a year. But no one wants to have that convo.

How about the corporate stock buybacks and prioritizing stockholder gains over all else?

I also agree that all corporations are too heavy. The one thing about the CEO’s though is they get paid to have their name pulled through the mud when anything significant happens.

 

[BeatSC]

How long would the line be if they were hiring for these dockworkers jobs? Miles long. Why? Because they are highly overpaid for their skill set. I’m more familiar with the west coast sunny weather jobs but they are making well into the six figures and most of them are not killing themselves doing it. Know many of them and on average if they’ve been doing it 10 years own a house values over a million dollars, don’t have college loans because generally went in after high school especially if they got their union card passed down by a family member. The hiring practices used for decades have been nothing like other companies. That maybe be changing now but still much questionable activity taking place. As far as automation goes agreement should be reached for US ports to be as automated as other industrialized countries. We cannot be letting the workers dictate how ass backwards we can remain. You can blame someone for the need for double digit annual raises given the double digit annual inflation.

Would like to see this resolved asap same with the Boeing strike. Not good for America.

 

[GowerND11]

I also agree that all corporations are too heavy. The one thing about the CEO’s though is they get paid to have their name pulled through the mud when anything significant happens.

And receive golden parachutes when let go, meanwhile the workers are told they will be out of a job in 2 weeks and goodbye pension.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Hopefully someone points out that this could possibly be Landow’s fault

Paging @Giddyup

 

[TorontoGold]

I also agree that all corporations are too heavy. The one thing about the CEO’s though is they get paid to have their name pulled through the mud when anything significant happens.

Then why are you online upset at the workers. Would be a neat time to drag the CEO's name.

 

[JadedDomer]

Is anything going well in America the past few years? Can we have some good news?

 

[calvegas04]

Is anything going well in America the past few years? Can we have some good news?

My index funds are up

 

[notredomer23]

The Genovese Family sends their regards.