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[Rocket89]

Why is it you think people can't care or have compassion for someone LGBT simply because they don't want to have an agenda rammed down their throats?

Because of the direct evidence here that any gay conversation is by definition over-sexualized and deemed to be “rammed down your throat?”

Either you think the gay community should be normalized or you don’t. Basing the discussion as automatically rammed down your throat tells me you don’t.

Your co-worker could could’ve asked to support him during Pride Month. You could say yes. Or you could hide behind “I don’t want to know.” Or maybe follow Blazers and tell him what a dick is supposed to be used for? The latter two are not compassion.

 

[Blazers46]

I like to picture you printing your comment out and reading it to your kids. Those poor children, since you probably believe this your sit down probably makes them gay in a great twist of irony.

Believe what exactly? I think everyone on this board would agree with every single word in that comment. I copied and pasted everything from Google.

Since you disagree please tell me your truth

What is a penis? And what is its designed use?

What is a vagina? And its designed use?

What is sex?

Also then tell my people like Rep Omar and others like her decided to move here to this oppressive conservative filled country instead of staying in places they came from....

 

[Blazers46]

I like to picture you printing your comment out and reading it to your kids. Those poor children, since you probably believe this your sit down probably makes them gay in a great twist of irony.

You know who else is picturing my kids... the gay choir.

 

[NorthDakota]

Because of the direct evidence here that any gay conversation is by definition over-sexualized and deemed to be “rammed down your throat?”

Either you think the gay community should be normalized or you don’t. Basing the discussion as automatically rammed down your throat tells me you don’t.

Your co-worker could could’ve asked to support him during Pride Month. You could say yes. Or you could hide behind “I don’t want to know.” Or maybe follow Blazers and tell him what a dick is supposed to be used for? The latter two are not compassion.

Eh, there is normalizing the gay community (I think it largely has been) and there is several levels beyond that. I'm pretty sympathetic to the O.G. plight that gay and lesbians had for decades trying to get legal protections and lessening the stigma against them. But I don't think that is really what it is about anymore.

 

[RDU Irish]

Such a huge push to normalize absolutely everything in society to the point that being normal is the most intolerant, bigoted thing a person can do. Yes, it is biologically normal for men and women to be sex partners. It is normal for people to commit to monogamous, heterosexual relationships, should this not be acknowledged as the core of our society? If we celebrate every letter in LGBTQRXYZ why is it unacceptable to celebrate monogamous heterosexuality?

I just don't get the never ending need to talk about some things. I don't force conversations about my sex life and preferences so why do others think that is not just appropriate but you have to embrace it or else you are bad? Even worse now - government run institutions think they NEED to form my kids' opinions sex and sexuality to the point that traditional values are marginalized, even lambasted?

Go fvck a duck for all I care, just don't ask me to have anything to do with it, let alone demand I cheer you on. We can still cheer on the Irish together. But I'm the bad guy.

 

[TorontoGold]

Such a huge push to normalize absolutely everything in society to the point that being normal is the most intolerant, bigoted thing a person can do. Yes, it is biologically normal for men and women to be sex partners. It is normal for people to commit to monogamous, heterosexual relationships, should this not be acknowledged as the core of our society? If we celebrate every letter in LGBTQRXYZ why is it unacceptable to celebrate monogamous heterosexuality?

I just don't get the never ending need to talk about some things. I don't force conversations about my sex life and preferences so why do others think that is not just appropriate but you have to embrace it or else you are bad? Even worse now - government run institutions think they NEED to form my kids' opinions sex and sexuality to the point that traditional values are marginalized, even lambasted?

Go fvck a duck for all I care, just don't ask me to have anything to do with it, let alone demand I cheer you on. We can still cheer on the Irish together. But I'm the bad guy.

Somebody get this guy a straight pride month to go with a white history month!

If you look at this thread, literally no one is "talking" about any of the LGBTQ stuff except GOP'ers. A lot of "I don't care what they do....except for XYZ12345 issues". It's easy to just let them do their own thing and not worry about it "impeding" on your life, we're straight guys I think society is setup for us to do well. Unless of course you absolutely need your cartoons, which some members here have stressed are important to them, nothing in your day to day life will ever be changed.

 

[Blazers46]

Somebody get this guy a straight pride month to go with a white history month!

If you look at this thread, literally no one is "talking" about any of the LGBTQ stuff except GOP'ers. A lot of "I don't care what they do....except for XYZ12345 issues". It's easy to just let them do their own thing and not worry about it "impeding" on your life, we're straight guys I think society is setup for us to do well. Unless of course you absolutely need your cartoons, which some members here have stressed are important to them, nothing in your day to day life will ever be changed.

Welcome to any message board that ever existed... I am sure 99% of the content brought to page in this section has been more of a gripe than to cheerlead.

 

[Blazers46]

Somebody get this guy a straight pride month to go with a white history month!

If you look at this thread, literally no one is "talking" about any of the LGBTQ stuff except GOP'ers. A lot of "I don't care what they do....except for XYZ12345 issues". It's easy to just let them do their own thing and not worry about it "impeding" on your life, we're straight guys I think society is setup for us to do well. Unless of course you absolutely need your cartoons, which some members here have stressed are important to them, nothing in your day to day life will ever be changed.

I think that is a fallacy talking point you are choosing to regurgitate here. When you start forcing people to use proper pronouns that 99% of the populous has never even heard of and could essentially be canceled or fired for using the correct science backed pronouns it changes your day to day... just one example. The gay baker case... sure the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the baker but that was just an example of gays trying to wield their perceived power when they could have just used a different baker.

Also when you are told to socially accept something you don't agree with (which we all do to some extent) but then told how you need to integrate this into your vocabulary, business policy, and normalize faux terms and ideology that contradict science and in some cases religion it can become a problem.

But it seems if we are not celebrating it we are condemned. I have been asked several times why I have not been to any Pride events. It sort of feels like the "silence is compliance" garbage the other social justice throws out there.

I worked for the State of New Mexico briefly. I had foster parents that were gay. My boss seemed to want to throw them a party every time they came in. They were like treated like a royal family walking into the office. They were thanked a million times for "doing what you are doing". My boss then talked to me on the side and told me it would go along way if I thanked them for everything they were doing. Really? Thought it was about being treated equal. Its like when NY or some other state passed late term abortion stuff.... I have not seen people more excited to pass something that should be somber whether you are for or against it.

 

[TorontoGold]

Welcome to any message board that ever existed... I am sure 99% of the content brought to page in this section has been more of a gripe than to cheerlead.

I think that is a fallacy talking point you are choosing to regurgitate here. When you start forcing people to use proper pronouns that 99% of the populous has never even heard of and could essentially be canceled or fired for using the correct science backed pronouns... just one example. The gay baker case... sure the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the baker but that was just an example of gays trying to wield their perceived power when they could have just used a different baker.

So...this thread is just a grievance thread about the dangers of a gay agenda? Yet, it is the gays who are shoving their agenda in your face?

Do you have stats to back up 99%? Because, I can tell you as someone who has transgender/LGBTQ friends the only ones I've heard them use is they/them/he/her. So I guess it's my anecdotal story vs yours until you can provide support for the 99% figure.

That case is totally bizarre as you could say the baker should just have baked the cake, and the couple could have gone to a different baker. No idea why either of them went through such a ridiculous process, but here we are. So, the point still stands, what in your day to day life has been changed for the worse? or what is threatened?

 

[Blazers46]

So...this thread is just a grievance thread about the dangers of a gay agenda? Yet, it is the gays who are shoving their agenda in your face?

Do you have stats to back up 99%? Because, I can tell you as someone who has transgender/LGBTQ friends the only ones I've heard them use is they/them/he/her. So I guess it's my anecdotal story vs yours until you can provide support for the 99% figure.

That case is totally bizarre as you could say the baker should just have baked the cake, and the couple could have gone to a different baker. No idea why either of them went through such a ridiculous process, but here we are. So, the point still stands, what in your day to day life has been changed for the worse? or what is threatened?

I think I could stand by my 99%... print this card and test it out yourself.

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[TorontoGold]

I'm impressed you've interacted with someone that has asked you to call them by any of the pronouns with the exception of he/her/they/them. Or, it could be faux outrage over fringe pronouns. Who knows who's coming into the sports store in NM.

 

[Blazers46]

So...this thread is just a grievance thread about the dangers of a gay agenda? Yet, it is the gays who are shoving their agenda in your face?

Do you have stats to back up 99%? Because, I can tell you as someone who has transgender/LGBTQ friends the only ones I've heard them use is they/them/he/her. So I guess it's my anecdotal story vs yours until you can provide support for the 99% figure.

That case is totally bizarre as you could say the baker should just have baked the cake, and the couple could have gone to a different baker. No idea why either of them went through such a ridiculous process, but here we are. So, the point still stands, what in your day to day life has been changed for the worse? or what is threatened?

You are smart enough to know that's not what I meant. I think you have become the king of gaslighting.

 

[Blazers46]

]I'm impressed you've interacted with someone that has asked you to call them by any of the pronouns with the exception of he/her/they/them[/B]. Or, it could be faux outrage over fringe pronouns. Who knows who's coming into the sports store in NM.

Your ignorance is showing.

 

[Rocket89]

You know who else is picturing my kids... the gay choir.

Dude, I know! What we’ve learned today is that all gay people target little kids and you can’t have anal sex with your wife.

 

[Bishop2b5]

...judging by the fact that the penis was designed to be inserted into a vagina and not a butt-hole...

Whoa! Hold up, brother! How 'bout you shut that crazy talk down and watch what you say. I'm still trying to talk my wife into some stuff, a'ight?

 

[Blazers46]

Dude, I know! What we’ve learned today is that all gay people target little kids and you can’t have anal sex with your wife.

Yeah, can you talk to her for me... since you like to think about my kids and my wife now apparently.

 

[Irish#1]

Whoa! Hold up, brother! How 'bout you shut that crazy talk down and watch what you say. I'm still trying to talk my wife into some stuff, a'ight?

PIIHB!

 

[Blazers46]

Yo Bishop, have her attend this school district in Wisconsin. Apparently 8 year olds are being taught anal sex and how to use apps to get anal sex.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/wisco...3MDfo22XN6ikSg

 

[drayer54]

Yo Bishop, have her attend this school district in Wisconsin. Apparently 8 year olds are being taught anal sex and how to use apps to get anal sex.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/wisco...3MDfo22XN6ikSg

They talked about 4th graders doing anal in Fishers, IN, where they’ve completely lost their minds. This is all about normalizing left wing stupidity and weaponizing the schools.

 

[Rocket89]

I worked for the State of New Mexico briefly. I had foster parents that were gay. My boss seemed to want to throw them a party every time they came in. They were like treated like a royal family walking into the office. They were thanked a million times for "doing what you are doing". My boss then talked to me on the side and told me it would go along way if I thanked them for everything they were doing. Really? Thought it was about being treated equal. Its like when NY or some other state passed late term abortion stuff.... I have not seen people more excited to pass something that should be somber whether you are for or against it.

I don’t know man, kind of seems like your old boss was a good dude and if you’re not a bigot, at the very least you’re an asshole.

Thanking gay foster parents is a bridge too far for you and hey let’s compare it to abortion. Bothered you so damn much years later you brought it up on a message board.

Pretty clear example of how gay culture isn’t being rammed down your throat while perfectly healthy and normal gay culture is too much for you to handle.

 

[Rocket89]

Yo Bishop, have her attend this school district in Wisconsin. Apparently 8 year olds are being taught anal sex and how to use apps to get anal sex.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/wisco...3MDfo22XN6ikSg

Can you provide any evidence this is “being taught” in this school district?

Shocker that you’d share the Daily Wire and once again over-sexualize and demonize gays against children when that isn’t happening.

Edit: You really need proper education about the gay community and to stop reading all this right-wing garbage.

 

[Irish#1]

Because of the direct evidence here that any gay conversation is by definition over-sexualized and deemed to be “rammed down your throat?”

Either you think the gay community should be normalized or you don’t. Basing the discussion as automatically rammed down your throat tells me you don’t.

Your co-worker could could’ve asked to support him during Pride Month. You could say yes. Or you could hide behind “I don’t want to know.” Or maybe follow Blazers and tell him what a dick is supposed to be used for? The latter two are not compassion.

You're reaching to try and prove your point. I don't know how much clearer I can make this, but I do not have any problems with anyone gay. Do I agree with their lifestyle? It's not my preference, but I don't condemn anyone gay. "Your co-worker could have asked to support him during Pride Month." What does that mean? How do you support a gay? I don't get into his personal life. He's never brought it up and it's not right to pry much like it's not your right to pry into my personal life unless I offer it up first. I treat him no different than anyone one else. I talk and joke with him all the time. He gets very good annual reviews. His salary is good and equal to others in his position. I take him to lunch on occasion like the I do the rest of my staff. Treating him as a human being. I'd say that's supporting him.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

My sister is gay and has been since I can remember. Her life has been hard everyday becasue of antigay people and those that cant be bothered to try and understand her. Our parents were good parents, took care of us, gave us everything we needed, but think they failed somehow rasing a daughter that was gay. Its taken years for them to accept her. To this day I wear something, anything with a rainbow on it. I dont flout it, I dont get in anyones face about it. She has never made it about her or trying to get in anyone' s face. Actually she is a devout Catholic and struggles with the ramifacations of God making her this way when she knows what it will cost her. Her struggle with being who she is and how God made her versus what a religous and societal dogma says she is supposed to be has been brutal on her.

 

[Rocket89]

You're reaching to try and prove your point. I don't know how much clearer I can make this, but I do not have any problems with anyone gay. Do I agree with their lifestyle? It's not my preference, but I don't condemn anyone gay. "Your co-worker could have asked to support him during Pride Month." What does that mean? How do you support a gay? I don't get into his personal life. He's never brought it up and it's not right to pry much like it's not your right to pry into my personal life unless I offer it up first. I treat him no different than anyone one else. I talk and joke with him all the time. He gets very good annual reviews. His salary is good and equal to others in his position. I take him to lunch on occasion like the I do the rest of my staff. Treating him as a human being. I'd say that's supporting him.

How do you support a gay person? The fact that such a question is so alien and confusing to you is pretty telling.

Lots of things could happen. He could ask you to wear a wristband in support. Or maybe wear a t-shirt one day. Maybe even invite you to a parade!

Maybe he would want to confide in you about the struggles to adopt? Or on his decision to find a surrogate? Or maybe he leans on you to help with something discriminatory that he’s dealing with?

A lot of these topics we deal with for straight people and offer support without thinking about it. You’re telling me you wouldn’t offer support to this co-worker on the basis that they’re gay and you don’t want to deal with their personal life?

That’s the rub. You say you don’t want to deal with their personal life but hiding behind that cop out just makes gay pride awareness and normalizing being gay all the more important.

That I’m telling you this and you’ve pushed back against it—while not doing the same on some pretty atrocious anti-gay comments in this thread—again is pretty telling.

 

[NorthDakota]

How do you support a gay person? The fact that such a question is so alien and confusing to you is pretty telling.

Lots of things could happen. He could ask you to wear a wristband in support. Or maybe wear a t-shirt one day. Maybe even invite you to a parade!

Maybe he would want to confide in you about the struggles to adopt? Or on his decision to find a surrogate? Or maybe he leans on you to help with something discriminatory that he’s dealing with?

A lot of these topics we deal with for straight people and offer support without thinking about it. You’re telling me you wouldn’t offer support to this co-worker on the basis that they’re gay and you don’t want to deal with their personal life?

That’s the rub. You say you don’t want to deal with their personal life but hiding behind that cop out just makes gay pride awareness and normalizing being gay all the more important.

That I’m telling you this and you’ve pushed back against it—while not doing the same on some pretty atrocious anti-gay comments in this thread—again is pretty telling.

I don't think its a bad question to ask and I don't see how it is "telling."

 

[GowerND11]

Yo Bishop, have her attend this school district in Wisconsin. Apparently 8 year olds are being taught anal sex and how to use apps to get anal sex.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/wisco...3MDfo22XN6ikSg

Ok your post is just absolutely disingenuous and you know it. They have access to books, they aren't being taught it. Now, could you make the claim they shouldn't have access to such books at a young age? Yeah I can agree with that. At the same time too, parents need to continue to do their job and monitor what their kids watch, read, etc.

 

[NorthDakota]

Ok your post is just absolutely disingenuous and you know it. They have access to books, they aren't being taught it. Now, could you make the claim they shouldn't have access to such books at a young age? Yeah I can agree with that. At the same time too, parents need to continue to do their job and monitor what their kids watch, read, etc.

Dalton (elite private school) just had an issue with first graders being taught about rubbing one out. People can pretend this stuff isn't a thing but I don't know how this sort of thing is defensible.

https://nypost.com/2021/05/29/dalton-parents-enraged-over-masturbation-videos-for-1st-graders/

 

[Irish#1]

How do you support a gay person? The fact that such a question is so alien and confusing to you is pretty telling.

Lots of things could happen. He could ask you to wear a wristband in support. Or maybe wear a t-shirt one day. Maybe even invite you to a parade!

Maybe he would want to confide in you about the struggles to adopt? Or on his decision to find a surrogate? Or maybe he leans on you to help with something discriminatory that he’s dealing with?

A lot of these topics we deal with for straight people and offer support without thinking about it. You’re telling me you wouldn’t offer support to this co-worker on the basis that they’re gay and you don’t want to deal with their personal life?

That’s the rub. You say you don’t want to deal with their personal life but hiding behind that cop out just makes gay pride awareness and normalizing being gay all the more important.

That I’m telling you this and you’ve pushed back against it—while not doing the same on some pretty atrocious anti-gay comments in this thread—again is pretty telling.

Did you read my post objectively or only with your jaded bias? What atrocious anti-gay comments have I ever made? I never said I didn't want to deal with his personal life and I never said I wouldn't support him if he came to me. He hasn't asked me to do any of that. But according to you, because I think he might be gay I should go ask him? I don't go and pry into any of my employees personal lives. Why should this be different? Because I think he's gay? What if he isn't and is just more effeminate? Do better Rocket.

 

[GowerND11]

Dalton (elite private school) just had an issue with first graders being taught about rubbing one out. People can pretend this stuff isn't a thing but I don't know how this sort of thing is defensible.

https://nypost.com/2021/05/29/dalton-parents-enraged-over-masturbation-videos-for-1st-graders/

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But what he said in comparison to what was said in the article is untrue.

 

[NorthDakota]

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But what he said in comparison to what was said in the article is untrue.

Right, just trying to get the general point across I guess as to why people are pretty on edge when it comes to this stuff. I always thought our sex ed was adequate. We learned that stuff in middle school and then had units on it in a couple of high school classes as well.