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Why am I not surprised. It’s like “heads I win, tails you lose”.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/1376753301014732803?s=21[/TWEET]

Isn't that the dude who lost his ability to practice medicine or something like that
 

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Why am I not surprised. It’s like “heads I win, tails you lose”.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/1376753301014732803?s=21[/TWEET]

And the most hated/disrespected group today is
A) LGBMT
B) Blacks
C) Hispanics
D) Asians
E) Middle Easterners
F) None of the Above
 

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Why am I not surprised. It’s like “heads I win, tails you lose”.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/1376753301014732803?s=21[/TWEET]

Ironically, this #Resistance grifter also called it the "Wuhan Virus" last year.

Btw, Black vs Asian animosity goes back decades and is well documented. While it's en vogue to blame literally everything on white people, anyone who pretends that is isn't/wasn't commonplace for things like Asian parents to forbid dating black people or for Korean store owners to discriminate against Blacks is either a liar or uninformed.
 

NorthDakota

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Ironically, this #Resistance grifter also called it the "Wuhan Virus" last year.

Btw, Black vs Asian animosity goes back decades and is well documented. While it's en vogue to blame literally everything on white people, anyone who pretends that is isn't/wasn't commonplace for things like Asian parents to forbid dating black people or for Korean store owners to discriminate against Blacks is either a liar or uninformed.

Goes beyond the western/white world too. Hines Ward used to talk about his korean mother being ostracized from the community because she had a child with a black serviceman. I think I've read some stories about blatant racism in China directed at Africans.

I dont think China or Korea are exactly bastions of whiteness or white supremacy.

People of different ethnicities having beef with each other is a tale as old as time.
 

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I just learned something odd related to the Virginia Beach shootings. Some of the coverage seemed unusual or "off" so to speak, and any reference to race, whether it was that of the shooters or the victims or the officer, were left out, and it seemed rather obvious in the two articles I read that they were going out of their way to avoid any mention of race. It wasn't just that it wasn't mentioned, it was that they clearly were tiptoeing around it intentionally and that was rather obvious. I had no idea if the shooters and victims were black or white, and nothing about the circumstances of the shooting gave much of a clue. So, I googled "Virginia Beach shooting race" and got NOTHING about race. When you Google something, the words you put into the search bar are bolded in each of the results. Not here. Even when I included "+race" Google simply ignored the word, didn't bold it in any results and didn't even show the word race struck through, indicating it had found results for "Virginia Beach shooting" but none of them included the word race. Unless I'm missing something, Google has intentionally blocked the ability to use race a search term for this event. Have we really gotten to this point?

We have gotten to this point. The stupid people of this country will still want abc,cbs,nbc and so forth and believe. The government is getting what they want. A bunch of brainwashed morons.
 

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When I checked the day of it didn't have much info available. This wasn't a huge deal to me one way or the other. But I'm assuming some articles were updated or new ones were published.

I wonder if anyone calling it this censorship media conspiracy will walk back those comments. Or, now that there is more details coming out they'll have anything substantive to say about the case.
 

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I wonder if anyone calling it this censorship media conspiracy will walk back those comments. Or, now that there is more details coming out they'll have anything substantive to say about the case.

You think the media would have treated this the same if the shooter was white?
 

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You think the media would have treated this the same if the shooter was white?

Would you consider Pharrell Williams a popular person? How do you feel about the Capitol incident, surely that's enough coverage for crime committed for a black person?
 

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Would you consider Pharrell Williams a popular person? How do you feel about the Capitol incident, surely that's enough coverage for crime committed for a black person?

Sooo... Do you think media would treat this different if the Capitol guy was white? Farrakhan going to be charged for inciting an insurrection?
 
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Sooo... Do you think media would treat this different if the Capitol guy was white? Farrakhan going to be charged for inciting an insurrection?

Well, duh. It would be leading the airwaves if it fit the narrative.
 

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Would you consider Pharrell Williams a popular person? How do you feel about the Capitol incident, surely that's enough coverage for crime committed for a black person?

I don't know who that is or much about the Capitol incident.
 

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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/runBMC57/status/1378435984707133445?s=20[/TWEET]

Barkley is one the best behind the booth. I love his commentary. Or course, he’s right. That’s how Clinton v Trump was a thing. Name two more divisive candidates? 4 years into Biden and we’ll see but this isn’t getting better. I still think we need a divorce.
 

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Would you consider Pharrell Williams a popular person? How do you feel about the Capitol incident, surely that's enough coverage for crime committed for a black person?

You’re cracking me up Toronto. You’re the king of reminding people that someone either didn’t respond to your question or reminding them they replied but didn’t answer yes or no. You avoided by replying with a question. Fred Astaire would have been proud.
 

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You’re cracking me up Toronto. You’re the king of reminding people that someone either didn’t respond to your question or reminding them they replied but didn’t answer yes or no. You avoided by replying with a question. Fred Astaire would have been proud.

Haha, I'm glad it's not lost on you. Trying to get out of feeling based or anecdotal type arguments. I just wanted to point out that the race was actually disclosed.
 

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Haha, I'm glad it's not lost on you. Trying to get out of feeling based or anecdotal type arguments. I just wanted to point out that the race was actually disclosed.

Predictably the article you posted was days after the incident... and predictably the article you posted was primarily talking about the Officer involved shooting of a Black Man and only briefly touched on the shooting at the end. Initial reports did not disclose race in any shooting relating to Virginia Beach on that day until later. The shooting happened late Friday March 27th, your article is from March 30th.
 

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Predictably the article you posted was days after the incident... and predictably the article you posted was primarily talking about the Officer involved shooting of a Black Man and only briefly touched on the shooting at the end. Initial reports did not disclose race in any shooting relating to Virginia Beach on that day until later. The shooting happened late Friday March 27th, your article is from March 30th.

Critical thinking is tough, I know. But, the article I posted was because someone commented as recently as April 2nd. That people are brainwashed morons, when they could have checked for any additional articles since the initial post by Bishop.

I posted the first article I found that showed 1) The race of the shooter 2) The race of victim. As that was in question by the original post on March 27th. Are you saying that if a article is not written the day of the incident that anything after that day is not allowed? Not sure what your gripe is here, other than wanting to rush to judgement and semantics.
 

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Critical thinking is tough, I know. But, the article I posted was because someone commented as recently as April 2nd. That people are brainwashed morons, when they could have checked for any additional articles since the initial post by Bishop.

I posted the first article I found that showed 1) The race of the shooter 2) The race of victim. As that was in question by the original post on March 27th. Are you saying that if a article is not written the day of the incident that anything after that day is not allowed? Not sure what your gripe is here, other than wanting to rush to judgement and semantics.

I'm assuming what he is getting at is a concern that journalists are often content to put out a story leaving out facts that are not good for their narrative they want to push. Then they go in and edit it later to fix things after the cycle has passed.

I dont think this particular instance was really all that bad. But we see journos set wildfires regularly such as "Breaking: the shooter in Denver is a young white male. What does this say about the dangers white men pose to BIPOCLGBTQQ+?"

Replies: 1K Retweets: 25K Likes: 127K

Follow up tweet/edit to article: "it turns out the shooter was not necessarily white. I will not share his name and will instead focus on the victims. Gun control now!"

Replies: 125 retweets: 750 likes: 1K

Thats not to say that it is specifically a right/left media thing, but media in general is among the most left leaning professions so there are a ton of prime examples there.
 

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I'm assuming what he is getting at is a concern that journalists are often content to put out a story leaving out facts that are not good for their narrative they want to push. Then they go in and edit it later to fix things after the cycle has passed.

I dont think this particular instance was really all that bad. But we see journos set wildfires regularly such as "Breaking: the shooter in Denver is a young white male. What does this say about the dangers white men pose to BIPOCLGBTQQ+?"

Replies: 1K Retweets: 25K Likes: 127K

Follow up tweet/edit to article: "it turns out the shooter was not necessarily white. I will not share his name and will instead focus on the victims. Gun control now!"

Replies: 125 retweets: 750 likes: 1K

Thats not to say that it is specifically a right/left media thing, but media in general is among the most left leaning professions so there are a ton of prime examples there.

Yes, that would be an issue if they said "White Shooter Kills Black Man" - that was not the case, entirely different. This situation did not happen, and it was not a coverup by the media as we now know by the released information. There were no hashtags, no movements, no protests, no overblown media coverage - so anything handwringing at Duh Media!1! is ridiculous.
 

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Haha, I'm glad it's not lost on you. Trying to get out of feeling based or anecdotal type arguments. I just wanted to point out that the race was actually disclosed.

Still waiting for a yes or no. lol
 

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Yes, that would be an issue if they said "White Shooter Kills Black Man" - that was not the case, entirely different. This situation did not happen, and it was not a coverup by the media as we now know by the released information. There were no hashtags, no movements, no protests, no overblown media coverage - so anything handwringing at Duh Media!1! is ridiculous.

I think if you really look at your comment you can see a glaring problem with media and society as a whole. The fact that it was a story and now really isnt says everything we need to know in my opinion. Multiple black males have a shootout in Virgina beach. If that was the information known right off the jump it would have stayed a local story and we may not have ever heard about it. But the media had very little information in a very hyper-sensitive gotcha nation and the initial reports or the initial headline (with nothing known about race, motive or victims) was multiple people shot, some injuries, some killed, at the very least, had the potential to be a big story. Even as BLM being as big as it as now... black people shooting at each and injurying and killing each isnt really national headline worthy sadly. The fact that it WAS initially a national story and now that we have the facts it just isnt juicy enough to care about should be the argument against the media and society. There were no hashtags, no movements, no protests, no overblown media coverage becaue groups could not attach hastags, protests, movements and no political/media narrative could be conveyed with this story, probably much to their disappointment. Just a bunch of black guys shooting other... next story...
 

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I think if you really look at your comment you can see a glaring problem with media and society as a whole. The fact that it was a story and now really isnt says everything we need to know in my opinion. Multiple black males have a shootout in Virgina beach. If that was the information known right off the jump it would have stayed a local story and we may not have ever heard about it. But the media had very little information in a very hyper-sensitive gotcha nation and the initial reports or the initial headline (with nothing known about race, motive or victims) was multiple people shot, some injuries, some killed, at the very least, had the potential to be a big story. Even as BLM being as big as it as now... black people shooting at each and injurying and killing each isnt really national headline worthy sadly. The fact that it WAS initially a national story and now that we have the facts it just isnt juicy enough to care about should be the argument against the media and society. There were no hashtags, no movements, no protests, no overblown media coverage becaue groups could not attach hastags, protests, movements and no political/media narrative could be conveyed with this story, probably much to their disappointment. Just a bunch of black guys shooting other... next story...

I'll tell you the same thing I tell my staff - make your point concise.

Your initial response to me was that I posted an article "predictably" (not sure what that means, as it is assuming that I waited until finding article to fit my beliefs) days after the incident. When, in fact, it was the first article to show up in my Google search. So, back to your original hand wringing - where did I go wrong in posting the first available news story? As well, the initial discussion was that there were little details out there and that it wasn't a bigger story. In your post, you appear (it's not very clear) to claim that it had the potential to be a bigger story but...wasn't so that's an issue? Isn't the whole gripe that white people don't get the same coverage as black people, but when a black person has been killed a police officer you're upset at that? Consistency please.
 
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