Coaching Carousel

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Remains to be seen, Kiffin makes 7.25 million right now, which is good for #11 in the country. Malzahn was making 7 and Harsin was making about 5.

Kiffin is making a little over $4M a year at Ole Miss right now, but Harsin was getting a little over $5M.

What is Lane Kiffin being paid to coach at Ole Miss? - Sports Illustrated Auburn Tigers News, Analysis and More

What would it take, financially, to get Lane Kiffin to Auburn?

www.si.com

 

[Armyirish47]

Kiffin is making a little over $4M a year at Ole Miss right now, but Harsin was getting a little over $5M.

What is Lane Kiffin being paid to coach at Ole Miss? - Sports Illustrated Auburn Tigers News, Analysis and More

What would it take, financially, to get Lane Kiffin to Auburn?

www.si.com

Did you finish the article.....

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Did you finish the article.....

My fault. I thought the $7.25 kicked in NEXT year. Apologies

This said, the $7M leaves Kiffin outside of the top ten (Cristobal is 10th at $8M a year) and the assistant salary pool leaves something to be desired, plus dealing with the Mississippi state legislature and the crazy incentives.

The stadium is pretty mediocre compared to the others in the SEC, whereas Jordan Hare would probably be one of the better ones in any other conference. Facility wise Auburn is probably top 20, top 25 at worst.

 

[stlnd01]

Auburn may be a modestly better job than Ole Miss (I’m dubious b/c of booster situation and Bama’s little brother. But agree they invest more and have won more in recent times), I just think if Kiffin can put together another good year or two at Ole Miss he gets (back) into the mix for the truly elite jobs. Which Auburn is not.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I realize that Auburn has a higher ceiling than Ole Miss, and they can spend more on facilities, but there are other issues for Kiffin to consider. Auburn is not an easy place to coach. You're always going to be second fiddle to Bama. The booster interference and warring booster factions makes for a difficult life there. No matter what you do, half the boosters are actively working against you so that they can put their guy in the corner office. The fanbase is maybe the most cultish in all of CFB and there's an attitude in the fanbase and program that's not conducive to sustained success. Note that Auburn has won 10 or more games in consecutive seasons only once in their entire history... and that was way back in the 80's. Even with seasons now having 12-15 games, they still can't sustain any sort of momentum or success. They consistently take short term approaches to long term problems.

Kiffin could get a raise and better facilities, and have a better shot at an SEC crown and the playoffs, but odds are it would eventually become a career ending job, as it has been for others. Auburn is a frustrating, difficult, high risk job. Lane can stay at Ole Miss for awhile with an easy job and be an incredibly appreciated hero there. A move to Auburn comes with enormous headaches and a likely disaster within a few years. Kiffin will get other better opportunities in the next year or two without nearly the problems and risks Auburn will entail.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Auburn may be a modestly better job than Ole Miss (I’m dubious b/c of booster situation and Bama’s little brother. But agree they invest more and have won more in recent times), I just think if Kiffin can put together another good year or two at Ole Miss he gets (back) into the mix for the truly elite jobs. Which Auburn is not.

Which ones are you thinking?

Kiffin left Knoxville in the lurch after one year for the NFL. Stands to reason he'd do the same to Auburn if somehting else he thought was better came along.

 

[stlnd01]

Which ones are you thinking?

Kiffin left Knoxville in the lurch after one year for the NFL. Stands to reason he'd do the same to Auburn if somehting else he thought was better came along.

Maybe, but I also suspect he'd be tied down with a pretty massive buyout, at least for the first couple years.

Kiffin's track record at Tennessee and USC was, we'd all agree, not the best. But it was also a long time ago at this point. With what he's done since, he can make the case that he has matured, learned how to do things the right way, all that.

And if he can keep Ole Miss winning 10+ games and making NY6 bowls, in that division, I have to think that would intrigue the likes of A&M, Oklahoma, even Bama? (Or Clemson if Bama hired Dabo), or other programs better than Auburn that might be shopping for a head coach in the next few years.

 

[chisea03]

Auburn may be a modestly better job than Ole Miss (I’m dubious b/c of booster situation and Bama’s little brother. But agree they invest more and have won more in recent times), I just think if Kiffin can put together another good year or two at Ole Miss he gets (back) into the mix for the truly elite jobs. Which Auburn is not.

Auburn may take the interim title off Cadillac Williams.

 

[Grahambo]

Auburn may be a modestly better job than Ole Miss (I’m dubious b/c of booster situation and Bama’s little brother. But agree they invest more and have won more in recent times), I just think if Kiffin can put together another good year or two at Ole Miss he gets (back) into the mix for the truly elite jobs. Which Auburn is not.

Saban won’t be around forever. Would be curious if Kiffin has an eye on succeeding Saban and what he thinks is his best path to succession.

 

[NDRock]

Saban won’t be around forever. Would be curious if Kiffin has an eye on succeeding Saban and what he thinks is his best path to succession.

Bad career move. Following Carroll was tough enough but Saban is on a whole other level. Be the guy that follows the guy.

 

[Panda]

If Auburn had the balls they would hire Coach Prime.

 

[drayer54]

I get that. The difference is Ole Miss actually loses coaches because of it and actually can’t recruit at the highest level. It’s not just asking for more for shits. Ole Miss doesn’t have top of CFB money, they just don’t.

But Aggieland and Auburn both have $$$ and shiny new facilities. Both would be better off with Kiffin. If you can make Ole Miss respectable, you can do fine at either school.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Auburn may take the interim title off Cadillac Williams.

Not a good idea.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Bad career move. Following Carroll was tough enough but Saban is on a whole other level. Be the guy that follows the guy.

Agreed. That will have the potential of being a Nebraska post Osbourne or Texas post Brown type of situation.

Only Ohio State can roll down a hill of shit and come out smelling like roses when it comes to coaching changes.

 

[chisea03]

Not a good idea.

The recruits are making the request for him to be the coach

 

[dublinirish]

The recruits are making the request for him to be the coach

when has that ever worked out

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Auburn may take the interim title off Cadillac Williams.

Bad idea IMO. First game after HC is fired is usually a “rally around the interim” game & they win or play a hard fought game. Then they go back to losing. It’s like a late rally of a terminally ill person before they die.

 

[notredomer23]

when has that ever worked out

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The recruits are making the request for him to be the coach

And those recruits, like my three kids, ain't paying any bills around the house.

He's a 40 year old RB coach that has never been a coordinator. If Marcus Freeman was rolling the dice, Cadillac Williams is Russian Roulette.

 

[Dale]

 

[notredomer23]

Michigan fans are calling it a huge loss. That's a shame.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Wow. What a hire by Charlotte.

 

[IrishLax]

He’s real deal when it comes to being a “leader of men.” High emotional intelligence and was revered at Gilman. The St. Frances situation rubbed a lot of people the wrong way around here because of the $$ he was throwing around but in retrospect I honestly think it was a lot of uppity prep school white people being mad that a team of guys from inner city Baltimore was that dominant.

Anyways, really interested to see how things go for him at Charlotte. I don’t know enough to know how hard of a job that is and what the expectations are.

 

[Dale]

“He’s kind of like the consigliere. He’s really the only guy that is willing to hash it out with (Harbaugh).”

 

[DONTH8]

And those recruits, like my three kids, ain't paying any bills around the house.

He's a 40 year old RB coach that has never been a coordinator. If Marcus Freeman was rolling the dice, Cadillac Williams is Russian Roulette.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

He’s real deal when it comes to being a “leader of men.” High emotional intelligence and was revered at Gilman. The St. Frances situation rubbed a lot of people the wrong way around here because of the $$ he was throwing around but in retrospect I honestly think it was a lot of uppity prep school white people being mad that a team of guys from inner city Baltimore was that dominant.

Anyways, really interested to see how things go for him at Charlotte. I don’t know enough to know how hard of a job that is and what the expectations are

That was my impression from the HBO doc series. Old Money doesn't like the poor, but they REALLY don't like New Money.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

College football coaching carousel: Tracker, analysis, grades on coach changes, 2022-23 hires

The 2022-23 coaching carousel is rolling along as Bowl Season has arrived

www.cbssports.com

Couple more weeks and it could really start to spin faster.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Nebraska coaching search: What I’m hearing about candidates, Trev Alberts’ efforts

Some of the speculation has legs as we reach the midpoint of November. With two games left, Nebraska is expected to make its hire soon.

theathletic.com

Indications are the Nebraska job is Rhule's if he wants it. He's at the top of their list and he has spoken with Nebraska A.D. Trev Alberts.

Leipold, Aranda, Doeren, Jeff Monken from Army and Bill O'Brien are all still part of a supposed short list.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Something I heard recently that could lend more credence to the Kiffin to Auburn reports is that the state of Mississippi does not allow contracts of greater than 4 years for public sector employees. Whether 10 year contracts for top coaches is a bubble or the new standard, Kiffin might want to go somewhere that can and will give him that contract while Ole Miss cannot.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Something I heard recently that could lend more credence to the Kiffin to Auburn reports is that the state of Mississippi does not allow contracts of greater than 4 years for public sector employees. Whether 10 year contracts for top coaches is a bubble or the new standard, Kiffin might want to go somewhere that can and will give him that contract while Ole Miss cannot.

Blame the Mississippi legislature. Section 213-A of the Mississippi Constitution limits employees of educational or administrative employees of state schools to contracts of four years or less. It was put in place when the Constitution was adopted in 1890.

And boy it's been causing trouble ever since. In 1997, former Ole Miss AD Pete Boone tried to circumvent the state constitution to extend then-head coach Tommy Tuberville by having the last six years of the deal done through the school's athletics foundation, not the school. The chancellor disagreed, and the state college board "clarified" that the rule was for all university-related contracts, not just ones directly from a university itself. In 2018, the state legislature's Constitution Committee introduced a bill, creatively titled "Mississippi Remove Four-Year Limit on State University Employment Contracts Amendment of 2019", that would have eliminated that restriction from the state constitution.

It never made it out of committee

This is from the SI article covering that.

State law saving these schools from themselves I suppose.