Clark Lea - Defensive Coordinator

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They are already talking about it on sport radio here in Nashville.


NOBODY wants another DC as head coach. They did mention Clark Lea but they said the AD should be going after Jeff Monken or Ken Niumatalolo with a pocket full of cash.

This would be brilliant for Vandy. Or UVA. Or Illinois. Or Kansas. Or Arkansas. Or Washington State.

When you know you're not gonna get the dudes your opponents will get, go triple option. Will never understand why more AD's at schools like these don't do it.
 

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What is ken and the triple option going to do in the sec? Get smoked. That would be a very bad decision.

What have Vandy, Arkansas, and Mizzou been doing in the SEC for the past 5 years? Getting smoked. Trying to play football the same way Bama and Georgia do. Idiotic.
 

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There were supposed to be some program upgrades and things Kelly wanted in his contract extension. Well, the pandemic hit and they pushed off the extension for optics. Then, when they eventually announced, there was no mention of the other things Kelly requested. My assumption is he got them but, again, for optics they weren’t announced. Really hoping increased coordinator pay is one of them.
 

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I stated when the pandemic hit that ND should use this as an opportunity to distinguish themselves. Now would be a good time to do so. Give the coordinators on arguably the best team in college football public raises.
 

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You do what you did with Elko. Go find the guy whose D has performed pretty well even in a crappy program. Or find that young guy like Lea who's energetic and can relate to the players. There are a ton of very smart X's and O's guys around, but a lot of them can't communicate.

Plot twist...Lea ends up leaving and BK pulls a typical BK move and calls BOBBY DIACO down the road in West Lafayette.
 

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I still don’t understand why we aren’t willing to pay the coaches with all the money we have. Lea needs to be a ND coach for a long time.
 

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I stated when the pandemic hit that ND should use this as an opportunity to distinguish themselves. Now would be a good time to do so. Give the coordinators on arguably the best team in college football public raises.

Yup they should call a big press conference and do this

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You do what you did with Elko. Go find the guy whose D has performed pretty well even in a crappy program. Or find that young guy like Lea who's energetic and can relate to the players. There are a ton of very smart X's and O's guys around, but a lot of them can't communicate.

I get that. I was more suggesting names specific.
 

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<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ht" dir="ltr">Jeff Monken</p>— Chad Withrow (@withrowzone) <a href="https://twitter.com/withrowzone/status/1333136121514110981?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

I’d go after Butch Jones if I were them.
 

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What would the defensive equivalent be to Tommy Rees? Joe Schmidt?
 

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Damn, the timing on this could be the worst part. Vandy's going to want their guy before signing day which mean's he won't be around to keep our class together.

But that's the least of my worries. I want him in the press box for the ACC championship game and the playoff. In game adjustments are of great importance and Lea is 2nd to none in that department. You can't just hand a list off to your next man in.
 

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Let's hope that Vandy goes the route that Barton Simmons and Bud Elliot think they are going with Will Healy.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the last 10 games, Notre Dame’s rush defense has faced Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, Javian Hawkins, Javonte Williams and Michael Carter.<br><br>They totaled 69 carries for 219 yards and one touchdown against Notre Dame. That’s 3.17 YPC.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1333161747948171264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Don’t quote this when/if I’m wrong, but I don’t think he goes to Vandy
 

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Let's hope that Vandy goes the route that Barton Simmons and Bud Elliot think they are going with Will Healy.

I think that would be a really good get for them. He's a hot name and would probably be willing to test the waters of taking on Vandy.

If Pruitt gets the boot in Tennessee, I wonder if Lea would jump to that if offered?
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the last 10 games, Notre Dame’s rush defense has faced Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, Javian Hawkins, Javonte Williams and Michael Carter.<br><br>They totaled 69 carries for 219 yards and one touchdown against Notre Dame. That’s 3.17 YPC.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1333161747948171264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lmao dirty
 

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I think that would be a really good get for them. He's a hot name and would probably be willing to test the waters of taking on Vandy.

If Pruitt gets the boot in Tennessee, I wonder if Lea would jump to that if offered?

I think TN might be a bit tougher to turn down lol. Hopefully he doesn't leave. My heart can't handle the disappointment that inevitably will follow when ND doesn't land a new stud coordinator.
 

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I think TN might be a bit tougher to turn down lol. Hopefully he doesn't leave. My heart can't handle the disappointment that inevitably will follow when ND doesn't land a new stud coordinator.

I was going to mention TN, but didn't want to jinx it lol... If it happens, we can blame the Canadian.

UT would likely be an easy decision for Clark.
Dollars, facilities, in-state talent, fan base, etc.
Lea with a good OC that could also recruit could do wonders there.
Pruitt is already able to recruit pretty good even with results lacking.
 

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I think TN might be a bit tougher to turn down lol. Hopefully he doesn't leave. My heart can't handle the disappointment that inevitably will follow when ND doesn't land a new stud coordinator.

100% man, if Pruitt gets canned he's done pretty well recruiting wise and it seems like it would be a good setup for the next guy. If Lea leaves I want him to kill it, and damn would he be set up in TN.
 

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I really think Vandy needs to go with an offensive guy as HC. They went from James Franklin, who was a good recruiter for them and had a good offensive reputation when taking the job, to Mason who was really good defensively and not really a factor on the recruiting trail while at Stanford.

I think if Vandy wants to get back to the teams like Franklin had, they need a guy who will work the recruiting trail harder than anyone else. I love Clark, but I see more similarities to Mason than I do Franklin.
 

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I was going to mention TN, but didn't want to jinx it lol... If it happens, we can blame the Canadian.

UT would likely be an easy decision for Clark.
Dollars, facilities, in-state talent, fan base, etc.
Lea with a good OC that could also recruit could do wonders there.
Pruitt is already able to recruit pretty good even with results lacking.

As long as Phat Phil is still around, I don't see UT as all that attractive. It's better than Vandy no doubt, but I would put other jobs ahead of it if they were to open (Iowa State, NC State, L'ville, etc). Basically, UT has a bigger name and brand appeal. But if I were a first time coach, I wouldn't want to climb out of the whole UT is in (including dealing with Phil) while having to go against UGA, UF and Bama each year. There are places that can pay near the same amount that offers a much better path to success and the ultimate goal of landing a T1 job. Pruitt was Clark Lea at one point, but with better recruiting chops. I think there is/was a reason why other people turned them down before. Nothing has changed except Mullen killing it at UF.
 

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I imagine Jack was in the back tunnel while Clark's agent was watching during the Clemson win, they share a look, Clark's agent gestures with the money sign and Jack goes "i know. I know."... basically Jerry maguire in real life.
 

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As long as Phat Phil is still around, I don't see UT as all that attractive. It's better than Vandy no doubt, but I would put other jobs ahead of it if they were to open (Iowa State, NC State, L'ville, etc). Basically, UT has a bigger name and brand appeal. But if I were a first time coach, I wouldn't want to climb out of the whole UT is in (including dealing with Phil) while having to go against UGA, UF and Bama each year. There are places that can pay near the same amount that offers a much better path to success and the ultimate goal of landing a T1 job. Pruitt was Clark Lea at one point, but with better recruiting chops. I think there is/was a reason why other people turned them down before. Nothing has changed except Mullen killing it at UF.

IDK. What has Phil done that's so bad exactly? He inherited Jones who couldn't get it done. He hired Pruitt, who was a hot name at the time. IMO, Pruitt was overrated simply due to the incestuous god-like status every Saban DC gets...

Phil isn't coaching the TN defense, who has underperformed what most would expect of a "Pruitt team". Offensively, they don't look like a Chaney scheme and are underperforming there too. That's not on Phil.

IMO, they need to break free from the SEC incest... Lea has done more with less, under stricter recruiting conditions. He'd do fine there with the right OC. If Chaney's issue is that he hasn't been able to be "Chaney", then I'd even consider keeping him. If he's been allowed to do what he wants, I'd ditch him and find a hot hand.

and ISU? NC St? Maybe the Ville, but not the other two.
 
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Damn, the timing on this could be the worst part. Vandy's going to want their guy before signing day which mean's he won't be around to keep our class together.

But that's the least of my worries. I want him in the press box for the ACC championship game and the playoff. In game adjustments are of great importance and Lea is 2nd to none in that department. You can't just hand a list off to your next man in.

Who would leave the possibility of an NC to crash their promising career on the rocks of the SEC's football fart noise?
 

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IDK. What has Phil done that's so bad exactly? He inherited Jones who couldn't get it done. He hired Pruitt, who was a hot name at the time. IMO, Pruitt was overrated simply due to the incestuous god-like status every Saban DC gets...

Phil isn't coaching the TN defense, who has underperformed what most would expect of a "Pruitt team". Offensively, they don't look like a Chaney scheme and are underperforming there too. That's not on Phil.

IMO, they need to break free from the SEC incest... Lea has done more with less, under stricter recruiting conditions. He'd do fine there with the right OC. If Chaney's issue is that he hasn't been able to be "Chaney", then I'd even consider keeping him. If he's been allowed to do what he wants, I'd ditch him and find a hot hand.

and ISU? NC St? Maybe the Ville, but not the other two.

Well, he didn't inherit Jones. Currie fired Jones and had an agreement in place to get Leach, but Phil worked back channels with the BoT to basically cockblock Currie and Leach (not important whether that was "right" or not, he went backdoor to get his way which hints to how he would be if he was your boss). Currie was then fired and Phil stepped in and botched the entire process, finally getting someone to agree to be coach. The rumors have been consistent for some time that Phil is very "hands on" and has an omnipresence around the football office. Not in a good way I should add. For Phil, it's about UT and Phil, not just UT. All AD's have ego's, but this is on another level.

Meanwhile, you have a fanbase that is passionate, but irrational. If Lea would go 8-4 (similar to ole Butch), they will run him out of town (and that is likely given the schedule they would have, so long as Saban is around). The school has finished in the top 10 one time this millennium. The run in the mid-late 90's was fantastic, but the SEC was a 2 team league at that point. It was UF/UT. Bama was at the end of the Stallings era before they went to the abyss, UGA was languishing under Goff and Jimmy D, LSU was untapped potential and Auburn was cheating but still losing 4+ a year. The SEC is just so much different now and while there is obviously a significant amount of talent in the SE, UT doesn't have "home state" advantage like LSU / UF / UGA does. It's an uphill climb thru and thru.

I would much rather be at a school that a) doesn't have to play a guaranteed 3 games against the top 15 b) will pay me well (all the schools I mentioned would be over $3M per year) c) appreciate, but not demand, 9 wins annually

Plus, if you win 8-9 games a year, you will have your pick of top 10-15 jobs when they open. If your goal is to win a championship in your next spot, UT would have the best chance. But if your goal is to win a championship at some point, I would use some of the other schools as a stepping stone to something more. Matt Campbell isn't winning a championship at ISU. But Pruitt (or Butch or Dooley or Lane Train) isn't winning one at UT either. But Campbell at Texas would have a much better chance of a title than Campbell at Tennessee.
 
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