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Is losing to Money Mitchell rock bottom for the Lions?

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I try to explain this to my friends who are Lion's fans.... they are in a state of eternal mediocrity. They'll lose a few games they shouldn't and they'll win a few games they shouldn't, but always expect them to win enough to not be in the lottery, but not enough to be in the playoffs.

They'll probably find a way to beat the Saints of all teams, then lose to Chicago again and the Jaguars or something.

Hopefully Mitch starts playing the way he did in the fourth for the rest of the season.
 

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Is losing to Money Mitchell rock bottom for the Lions?

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seems so. worst thing is that they've been losing games like this throughout the Patricia era. Nothing has changed.
 

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seems so. worst thing is that they've been losing games like this throughout the Patricia era. Nothing has changed.

Yesterday was the 18th game the Lions have lost under Patricia after leading in the fourth quarter. That's two seasons and one game. So under Patricia they are now 9-24, and in 18 of those 24 losses they led in the fourth quarter. Why he's still the coach leaves even die-hard Lions fans wondering. Patricia continues the Lions tradition of losing.

The Lions last championship occurred in the 1950s well before the Super Bowl era. Is it any wonder both Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson retired rather than continue playing for the most pathetic franchise in the NFL
 
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Patricia is going to be another branch of the Belichick Tree that cashed in on an HC job but didn't repeat that pattern of success in New England. For as good as everyone associated with that franchise has been, the Grumpy Hoody is the North Star of the Patriots. Take him away and it is all gone.

I am so curious to see what MT looks like for Chicago in the second game. Mind boggling intrigue.
 

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Patricia is going to be another branch of the Belichick Tree that cashed in on an HC job but didn't repeat that pattern of success in New England. For as good as everyone associated with that franchise has been, the Grumpy Hoody is the North Star of the Patriots. Take him away and it is all gone.

I am so curious to see what MT looks like for Chicago in the second game. Mind boggling intrigue.

i'd imagine when patricia goes jim bob quinn at GM will go also. Both have been terrible hires and set the team back another decade most likely
 

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i'd imagine when patricia goes jim bob quinn at GM will go also. Both have been terrible hires and set the team back another decade most likely

This Bears regime may not be far behind them if they don't get something done this year. This defense doesn't have much time left.

I think the Trubisky sample size is enough for everyone at this point. He simply is not consisetent enough to be a quality starter in the League.
 

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I am dangerously close to abandoning the Bears fandom.

I have never in my life, seen leadership so insanely tone-deaf and insulting to their fanbase than George McCaskey, Ted Phillips and the rest of the Bears leadership.

It's bad enough that they're brutally incompetent, but then they spend their entire postseason PC essentially rubbing their poor decision making and incompetence in our faces.

Bears fans everywhere are LIVID right now. I can't imagine why any fan would subject themselves to this torture anymore. We absolutely deserve so much better than this perpetual joke of a leadership team running this team into the ground and being an absolute embarrassment to us. The whole football world is laughing at this organization and the horrid leadership that completely and utterly disgraced us.

It's truly a sad day when we have to wait for Virginia to pass for us to ****ing get out of this endless cycle of mediocrity.
 

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I am dangerously close to abandoning the Bears fandom.

I have never in my life, seen leadership so insanely tone-deaf and insulting to their fanbase than George McCaskey, Ted Phillips and the rest of the Bears leadership.

It's bad enough that they're brutally incompetent, but then they spend their entire postseason PC essentially rubbing their poor decision making and incompetence in our faces.

Bears fans everywhere are LIVID right now. I can't imagine why any fan would subject themselves to this torture anymore. We absolutely deserve so much better than this perpetual joke of a leadership team running this team into the ground and being an absolute embarrassment to us. The whole football world is laughing at this organization and the horrid leadership that completely and utterly disgraced us.

It's truly a sad day when we have to wait for Virginia to pass for us to ****ing get out of this endless cycle of mediocrity.

With the inability for us to hang with my Chicago crew on Sundays cuz of Covid, I took the year off. Being out of market in AZ helps as it's not in my face everyday and I don't bet on the NFL any longer cuz I haven't followed the NFL for 10+ years. Gotta say, didn't miss it too much besides the grub at my buddy's game watch parties (He's Serbian and makes killer Cevapi) Instead, I just hit the drive thru at Portillo's and grab a beef and a tamale boat and get the honey-do list done in the afternoons.
 

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With the inability for us to hang with my Chicago crew on Sundays cuz of Covid, I took the year off. Being out of market in AZ helps as it's not in my face everyday and I don't bet on the NFL any longer cuz I haven't followed the NFL for 10+ years. Gotta say, didn't miss it too much besides the grub at my buddy's game watch parties (He's Serbian and makes killer Cevapi) Instead, I just hit the drive thru at Portillo's and grab a beef and a tamale boat and get the honey-do list done in the afternoons.

This is the exact route I've taken.... Can't say I miss it too much either.
 

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Bears have been playing football forever and have never had a good QB.
 

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I am dangerously close to abandoning the Bears fandom.

I have never in my life, seen leadership so insanely tone-deaf and insulting to their fanbase than George McCaskey, Ted Phillips and the rest of the Bears leadership.

It's bad enough that they're brutally incompetent, but then they spend their entire postseason PC essentially rubbing their poor decision making and incompetence in our faces.

Bears fans everywhere are LIVID right now. I can't imagine why any fan would subject themselves to this torture anymore. We absolutely deserve so much better than this perpetual joke of a leadership team running this team into the ground and being an absolute embarrassment to us. The whole football world is laughing at this organization and the horrid leadership that completely and utterly disgraced us.

It's truly a sad day when we have to wait for Virginia to pass for us to ****ing get out of this endless cycle of mediocrity.

It was an absolute disaster of a press conference . Then George doubles down on radio the next day. How the F do they point to the teams attitude during a 6 game losing streak as a good thing? That is an absolute joke. Rodgers is 21-5 against us, how does that not infuriate you. Many many fans are pissed.. Lot of PSLs up for sale. I am sure myself and my bro will be in the seats next year if we are allowed. I am more upset than anything that Pace gets to pick a 4th QB, 4th in 6 years.. That is wrong. Glennon, Foles, leveraging the future for Mitch. Sanchez, Brey, Daniel etc. Sh*t Sandwich.
 

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Does Pace mortgage the next quarter century and deal our
2021-2046 first round draft pick and Roquan
for D.Watson?
Let's discuss
 
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Does Pace mortgage the next quarter century and deal our
2021-2046 first round draft pick and Roquan
for D.Watson?
Let's discuss

Who’s he gonna throw too? Robinson is all but gone in my opinion. That leaves little options and we have terrible draft capital as it is.
 

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Grew up a Bears fan and for the last 5+ years I stopped watching. College is much better than NFL IMO and the Free Agency results in players departing for better paychecks. Plus the Bears suck. An easy decision.
 

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Who’s he gonna throw too? Robinson is all but gone in my opinion. That leaves little options and we have terrible draft capital as it is.

I didn't put in italics. But gotta say, I hope that Pace has zero part in the QB decision moving forward. Not signing Arob long term will haunt us for quite a while. He's elite.
 

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If you were Meyer, would trade the #1 overall for Watson? Concerning the Bears, I'd give Houston anything they asked for, but does Watson have any say where he would go? If so, why would he come here? No O-line, no coach, #1 receiver about the leave town, McCaskey's your boss, what else?
 

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I didn't put in italics. But gotta say, I hope that Pace has zero part in the QB decision moving forward. Not signing Arob long term will haunt us for quite a while. He's elite.

Yeah I won’t really consider the bears anywhere close to a decent organization while he gets to be GM
 

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Yeah I won’t really consider the bears anywhere close to a decent organization while he gets to be GM

Even if they got rid of him, it goes far beyond Pace.

They are structurally flawed and the franchise is run by people who are deficient of football intelligence.
 

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If you were Meyer, would trade the #1 overall for Watson? Concerning the Bears, I'd give Houston anything they asked for, but does Watson have any say where he would go? If so, why would he come here? No O-line, no coach, #1 receiver about the leave town, McCaskey's your boss, what else?

I wouldn’t. Would rather have Lawrence on a rookie deal the next four years than Watson.
 

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With the inability for us to hang with my Chicago crew on Sundays cuz of Covid, I took the year off. Being out of market in AZ helps as it's not in my face everyday and I don't bet on the NFL any longer cuz I haven't followed the NFL for 10+ years. Gotta say, didn't miss it too much besides the grub at my buddy's game watch parties (He's Serbian and makes killer Cevapi) Instead, I just hit the drive thru at Portillo's and grab a beef and a tamale boat and get the honey-do list done in the afternoons.

Wait, there are Portillo's in AZ?
 

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I wouldn’t. Would rather have Lawrence on a rookie deal the next four years than Watson.

I agree, Lawrence is about aw can't miss as it gets. The $ is the biggest factor IMHO, if you think of the two QBs as being "equal". The Superstar factor isn't even at work for one over the other for Tix sales.
 

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If you were Meyer, would trade the #1 overall for Watson? Concerning the Bears, I'd give Houston anything they asked for, but does Watson have any say where he would go? If so, why would he come here? No O-line, no coach, #1 receiver about the leave town, McCaskey's your boss, what else?

I would not trade the #1 overall pick for Watson. Although Watson is a proven commodity, Lawrence on his rookie deal gives you a window to "win now" for a team like the Jags that you won't have with Watson. If you draft Lawrence, you can also go out and spend over the next three years on pieces to support him.

If you're Watson, you can try to angle for certain teams but realistically he only has so much leverage. If he puts in a bunch of demands... say "I only want to go to New England, New York, New Orleans, etc."... then the odds of him getting traded at all go way down. If he's serious about getting traded, then he should put no restrictions on where he ends up.
 

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Wait, there are Portillo's in AZ?

There should be. I spent a week in Phoenix a few weeks ago and everyone I met was a Chicago transplant.

Green Bay is the smallest town to have a professional team and they have dominated the Bears for over 20 years. It's crazy.
 

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I would not trade the #1 overall pick for Watson. Although Watson is a proven commodity, Lawrence on his rookie deal gives you a window to "win now" for a team like the Jags that you won't have with Watson. If you draft Lawrence, you can also go out and spend over the next three years on pieces to support him.

If you're Watson, you can try to angle for certain teams but realistically he only has so much leverage. If he puts in a bunch of demands... say "I only want to go to New England, New York, New Orleans, etc."... then the odds of him getting traded at all go way down. If he's serious about getting traded, then he should put no restrictions on where he ends up.

Agreed. The only team I care thinking about Watson going to is the Bears. I can't figure out why he would accept that deal, or what the Texans could possibly want from the Bears. They keep talking about a package for Darnold to HOU. The fascination with Darnold confuses me. His windup delivery will never work in the NFL, maybe MLB.
 

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The Bears trading for Watson would draw too much negative attention to the front office that passed on Watson in order to draft Mitch Trubisky. I don't think they could stomach the PR hit.
 

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The Bears trading for Watson would draw too much negative attention to the front office that passed on Watson in order to draft Mitch Trubisky. I don't think they could stomach the PR hit.

Based on how much the franchise doesn't give a shit about PR, especially from last weeks press conference, I could see them leveraging the future here for sure. Don't give up Roquan though.
 

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There should be. I spent a week in Phoenix a few weeks ago and everyone I met was a Chicago transplant.

We've also got a Lou Malnati's, a Giordano's, and a dozen other Chicago-based franchises now.
 

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Wait, there are Portillo's in AZ?

Tree of 'em now. Scottsdale, Tempe & somewhere on the westside.

Just like back home, there's typical hole in the wall, hot dog joints that are even better.
 
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