CFB Head Coaching Carousel 2018

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If It's Chip does this mean we can have less than 12 bubble screens a game, or is this just our destiny?
 
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Good for Autry, he seems like a genuinely good guy. On the other hand, I wonder why Mike Elston never gets more of a look from other teams? He's coached since 2001, has coached, LB, DL, ST, TE, recruiting coordinator at multiple schools. Even coaching multiple position groups just since being at ND. Kelly has even mentioned him in press conferences saying he has all it takes to be a head coach. I could be wrong but off the top of my head I think he might even be our Associate head coach, and Kelly has talked about letting him sit in on important decision making, kind of like high end on the job training.
Maybe in the few interviews he has had a chance at he might not of done well? Anybody else find it odd? Am I missing something obvious?
 
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IrishFanForever23 said:
It's Denson with Charleston Southern.
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Interesting - good for him - and it would be good for Charleston Southern too. I have had several friends down here who have had kids attend CS and play on various sports teams - most of them have ended up transferring. CS is a complete wreck in the athletic department and need some stable coaches. They have a new AD and he has been tasked with changing the culture of the entire athletic department but specifically the football team.

Selfishly I would hate it from an ND standpoint, but if it is good for Denson then I am good with it.
 
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Adam Gase to the Jets
Northern Illinois HC Rod Carey front runner for the Temple job
Kansas OC Chip Linsey front runner for the Troy job
 
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howell66 said:
Good for Autry, he seems like a genuinely good guy. On the other hand, I wonder why Mike Elston never gets more of a look from other teams? He's coached since 2001, has coached, LB, DL, ST, TE, recruiting coordinator at multiple schools. Even coaching multiple position groups just since being at ND. Kelly has even mentioned him in press conferences saying he has all it takes to be a head coach. I could be wrong but off the top of my head I think he might even be our Associate head coach, and Kelly has talked about letting him sit in on important decision making, kind of like high end on the job training.
Maybe in the few interviews he has had a chance at he might not of done well? Anybody else find it odd? Am I missing something obvious?
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I've wondered that myself. As much as Kelly talks Elston up it seems like he would have gotten a shot already.
 
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ndfi78 said:
I've wondered that myself. As much as Kelly talks Elston up it seems like he would have gotten a shot already.
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Maybe he doesn't want a "shot" with a relatively low level program.

Maybe he thinks that if he stays and they continue to do well one of two things MIGHT happen:

1. He gets a shot at ND when BK retires or moves on.
2. He gets a shot at a much bigger program than what he would currently be in contention to get.

He's seen lots of former associates get "shots" at programs that everyone knew they were not likely to be successful. Maybe he's OK biding his time.
 
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I get why people become head coaches and such. Money, belief they can make it, etc., but I often think to myself, "is the risk worth it?" I wonder if that is a deciding factor for guys like Foster, Venables, maybe even Elston. I know I have a good job, get paid well, I do my job well, why throw that out?

I think what was said above me is true to, "do I really want to be head coach there?" Is the risk worth the reward, I'd say often times no. After those three failed years (or so) you end up having to go way backwards to stay in the industry (Molnar).
 
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GowerND11 said:
I get why people become head coaches and such. Money, belief they can make it, etc., but I often think to myself, "is the risk worth it?" I wonder if that is a deciding factor for guys like Foster, Venables, maybe even Elston. I know I have a good job, get paid well, I do my job well, why throw that out?

I think what was said above me is true to, "do I really want to be head coach there?" Is the risk worth the reward, I'd say often times no. After those three failed years (or so) you end up having to go way backwards to stay in the industry (Molnar).
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Another factor is family. Does Elston have any children? People with families like the stability of a well-paying job and being able to stay in one geographic location for a spouse, who may have a job of her own, and children, who have established friendships and a connection to a local school.

Moving repeatedly can be hard on children, especially teenagers, who are forced to make new friends in a strange place. Elston is likely paid well as one of Kelly's top assistants. He has job security. His family can stay in one place and plant some roots. He will more than likely be given, at minimum, a chance to interview for the ND job if Kelly should decide to leave. He may be content with that for now. He's living the dream. Why risk all that for a shot at a lower-level head coaching job?
 
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All good points listed above. Some coaches want to be in control of a program and some are content to be an assistant. Whether you're a HC or an assistant, volatility of tenure is always going to be there. If the HC doesn't succeed he's gone, but more than likely the assistants are as well.

Most wives know coaching offers little stability. I used to work with Rick Minter's daughter in law. Minter's son Jessie got into coaching as well. When she joined the company I was at, she told me she didn't expect to be there for more than 3-4 years. She lasted 3 before Jessie went from Indiana State to Georgia State (followed his HC). The HC got fired after 4 years and then Minter went to the Ravens. Not sure if he's still there or not.

It could be that Elston is quite content with where he is at. Good salary, stability, gets along with his boss and a great school.
 
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EddytoNow said:
Another factor is family. Does Elston have any children? People with families like the stability of a well-paying job and being able to stay in one geographic location for a spouse, who may have a job of her own, and children, who have established friendships and a connection to a local school.

Moving repeatedly can be hard on children, especially teenagers, who are forced to make new friends in a strange place. Elston is likely paid well as one of Kelly's top assistants. He has job security. His family can stay in one place and plant some roots. He will more than likely be given, at minimum, a chance to interview for the ND job if Kelly should decide to leave. He may be content with that for now. He's living the dream. Why risk all that for a shot at a lower-level head coaching job?
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From everything I've read and heard, Mike Elston and his wife Beth are firmly entrenched in the South Bend community and they have 3 daughters as well. By normal American standards, and especially the living costs of South Bend, Indiana, Mike Elston is a very rich man and makes a rich man's salary. He, from what I know and understand, has a great relationship with Brian Kelly who has a mutual respect and admiration for what Mike Elston does. Yes, he works his tail off and recruits with the absolute best in the business, but he's got as good of a setup as you can have as an assistant coach at a premier program in the country. I do think that Mike Elston, like most another assistant coaches, want to run their own program some day, but he probably knows that if BK retires he can get a MAC job where he'll make equal or lesser pay than he does now. So, he always has the MAC option down the road and I don't think he'd leave unless its for a Power 5 job. Now, if a power 5 school came along and offered him a head job then I'd guess he'd probably take it, but I don't think Mike Elston leaves until BK retires/got fired (he'd probably get an interview for the head job at ND), a Power 5 school offers him a head gig, or he gets a big time coordinator job down the road. If I'm making close $1M a year and I like my boss and have job security, then I'm probably not jumping at the first opportunity at age 44 when I have a lot of time left in the coaching industry.
 
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NDMIA said:
From everything I've read and heard, Mike Elston and his wife Beth are firmly entrenched in the South Bend community and they have 3 daughters as well. By normal American standards, and especially the living costs of South Bend, Indiana, Mike Elston is a very rich man and makes a rich man's salary. He, from what I know and understand, has a great relationship with Brian Kelly who has a mutual respect and admiration for what Mike Elston does. Yes, he works his tail off and recruits with the absolute best in the business, but he's got as good of a setup as you can have as an assistant coach at a premier program in the country. I do think that Mike Elston, like most another assistant coaches, want to run their own program some day, but he probably knows that if BK retires he can get a MAC job where he'll make equal or lesser pay than he does now. So, he always has the MAC option down the road and I don't think he'd leave unless its for a Power 5 job. Now, if a power 5 school came along and offered him a head job then I'd guess he'd probably take it, but I don't think Mike Elston leaves until BK retires/got fired (he'd probably get an interview for the head job at ND), a Power 5 school offers him a head gig, or he gets a big time coordinator job down the road. If I'm making close $1M a year and I like my boss and have job security, then I'm probably not jumping at the first opportunity at age 44 when I have a lot of time left in the coaching industry.
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His girls range in age from roughly 7 to 12. They've been in South Bend since 2010. South Bend is likely the only home that any of those kids can remember.
 
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His girls range in age from roughly 7 to 12. They've been in South Bend since 2010. South Bend is likely the only home that any of those kids can remember.
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when sanford left for WKU it was such a head scratcher for me. he would have been set up nicely with his young family for a number of years but now they will be on their third home in what, 4 years?
 
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when sanford left for WKU it was such a head scratcher for me. he would have been set up nicely with his young family for a number of years but now they will be on their third home in what, 4 years?
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I am not sure Sanford's leaving was entirely voluntary.
 
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zelezo vlk said:
Did y'all know that Matt Rhule apparently interviewed with the Jets?
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Yeah, and they offered him the job, and expected him to accept yesterday evening... but then he texted his staff and players at Baylor that he was "coming back to school"
 
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He was on the extremely short list for replacing BK after '16 lol
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The extremely short list of guys willing to come to ND. He did well at Temple, but I really thought he'd be in over his head at Baylor. I'd love to see Baylor pull some upsets next year.
 
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If he keeps moving Baylor in a good direction I’d definitely like to see ND give him a strong look whenever BK is done.
 
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