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Is there anyway to steal Greg Maddison back from Michigan? He isn't even the d coordinator.

What about Luke Fickel?

I'd say 0 chance on Mattison. If I recall, part of the reason he went back to Michigan instead of staying with the Ravens was to be closer to his daughter and her family in Michigan. Obviously South Bend is a stone's throw away, but at 66 I imagine Michigan is his last stop coaching wise. I certainly wouldn't mind having him though.

Fickel on the other hand...no thanks. I'd take Tressel as a DC though.
 

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I wasn't talking about head coach. Was talking about defensive coordinator.


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Oh i'm aware. I'm saying there is a reason Urban isn't using him as a true defensive coordinator.
 

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No thank you!

He showed what a fraud he was in his one year under the helm before Urban took over. You had two decades of .900+ ball with one 7-5 year sandwiched in the middle with shit defense. Urban has kept him on in name only for a reason. He's destined for a lower half of the Big10 HC job like Maryland where he'll flame out after 3 seasons.

May not be a great head coach but he's an elite coordinator. Shut down bama and Oregon back to back in 2015. Is take him in a heartbeat, but he's born and raised in cbus he'll never leave for anything other than a head coaching position.
 

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May not be a great head coach but he's an elite coordinator. Shut down bama and Oregon back to back in 2015. Is take him in a heartbeat, but he's born and raised in cbus he'll never leave for anything other than a head coaching position.



He's a coordinator in title only. He isn't calling the defense. He's there to recruit.
 

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What disappoints me the most about our defense is there seems to be zero talent development across the board. Our defensive players improve very little from year one to four and that's a finger pointed at the whole staff from van gorder down to longo. They look slow, unathletic, unsure, unphysical, and un-instinctive. I know there are growing pains when you play a lot of young guys but the root of the problems is the staff. Your given the groceries you shopped for now it's time to start cooking something that doesn't taste like shit
 

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I wasn't talking about head coach. Was talking about defensive coordinator.


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Yes, and he knows his role is not as a HC, so he would not be bucking for a HC spot at ND, either.

However, I am not convinced just getting rid of BVG will ever happen under BK.
 

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May not be a great head coach but he's an elite coordinator. Shut down bama and Oregon back to back in 2015. Is take him in a heartbeat, but he's born and raised in cbus he'll never leave for anything other than a head coaching position.

I had as much to do with those shutouts as Fickel. Him being defensive coordinator is nothing more than a shiny name tag urban gave him so he would have to put him out on the street after his interim year as HC.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fuck <a href="https://twitter.com/NotreDame">@NotreDame</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball">@NDFootball</a>. Fire <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly">@CoachBrianKelly</a>!!</p>— Morgan VanGorder (@MorgVanG) <a href="https://twitter.com/MorgVanG/status/780065454949892097">September 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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The deed may already be done ! Van Gorders daughter is going crazy on Twitter !

If he isn't then it's not a great idea for your daughter to post F*** ND and ND Football and that Kelly should be fired.

It might be a reaction to everyone that is attacking her Father but still not smart to attack your father's employer when he is certainly on the hot seat.

I certainly agree that he should be fired at some point, the defense is terrible but I'm worried about whether they'll lose recruits because of it. At this point, who will be promoted to replace him mid-season? Will they move Elliot back to a coaching position to replace BVG in the short-term? I'm sure they will find someone after the season but at this point I don't have much confidence in anyone on the defensive staff taking over that role. I would probably clean house on the defensive staff.

Also, it is time for Booker to go. The TE position went from consistently being a strength to a weakness now even though ND is continually pulling in top talent at the position.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fuck <a href="https://twitter.com/NotreDame">@NotreDame</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball">@NDFootball</a>. Fire <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly">@CoachBrianKelly</a>!!</p>— Morgan VanGorder (@MorgVanG) <a href="https://twitter.com/MorgVanG/status/780065454949892097">September 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Um....

Did he (BVG) get fired?
 

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LMFAO this is hilarious. Would be even funnier if he hasn't been fired yet. Would be great if she played a hand in getting him fired. lol.
 

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Um....

Did he (BVG) get fired?

I honestly don't know. She was fired up with everyone criticizing her father last night. She tweeted about offensive turnovers and special teams giving up plays, and then this morning we got that. I guess we can wait for the Sunday teleconference to see if anything happened.
 

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Between all the Twitter debacles the past week, plus of course the embarrassment we put on the field, the program has become a disgrace to the university. Like Lax said, fire everyone.
 

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Do we know own that it's actually his daughter.

There is also a tweet previous about offensive turnovers. And one about fans.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources tell FootballScoop Notre Dame has parted ways with defensive coordinator Brian VanGorder <a href="https://t.co/ppxU2DejiV">https://t.co/ppxU2DejiV</a></p>— FootballScoop Staff (@FootballScoop) <a href="https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status/780093513824292865">September 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Brian VanGorder is Brian Kelly’s fault.

Remember those words. Firing BVG will not fix the main problem.

I couldn't think of a better writeup to display my hatred of Kelly.
I have/have not wanted to bring up the controversies of Seeberg and Sullivan, but he had a hand in both. No matter what anyone says to the contrary, if you look at it, Kelly was complicit in the death of Sullivan, and possibly even Seeberg.
He should've been gone a long time ago.
 

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Is football scoop legit? Hahaha. I hope they have some real program insiders.
 

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I couldn't think of a better writeup to display my hatred of Kelly.
I have/have not wanted to bring up the controversies of Seeberg and Sullivan, but he had a hand in both. No matter what anyone says to the contrary, if you look at it, Kelly was complicit in the death of Sullivan, and possibly even Seeberg.
He should've been gone a long time ago.

Huh?
 
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