Brian Kelly's Bad In-Game Coaching

[Irish2155]

This game is squarely on Kelly.
1. He runs a jet sweep with a wideout who fumbles the ball at the goal line. Use your RB inside the five.
2. TF is running well. He put a cold McDaniel in the game who proceeds to fumble.
3. He goes for two? What the heck was that about? Kick the ball and you still win.

This teams youth is starting to show. What I can't figure out is how the defense played so well the first half of the season has played so poorly the last four games? Our open field tackling needs to be worked on. Too many guys simply trying to strip the ball instead of getting on the runners legs.

Yeah, pretty much how I see it too. Defense is consistently got worse to a point it's hard to overcome. Third and 4 plus, third and four plus, third and four plus...first and ten. Can't get off the field.

 

[GATTACA!]

I wasn't fired from my job, i was laid off! But you wouldn't know the difference!

 

[GoldenDome]

Exactly. Where has ND ever just run the ball down someone's throat under Kelly? I've heard him say "you have to take what they give you", but he abandons the run quickly. I just wanted to get Zach Martin off the sidelines and into the game. Is that legal?

Never. He freaks out when we run the ball for 2 yards. Then it is pass pass pass pass pass. Holy shit we should have worn their defense out and run the ball 2:1 vs the pass today.

Then he has these crappy slow developing sideline to sideline runs that eventually lose yardage. Can we run off tackle? Stanley seems fully capable of ass stomping his guy. Motion Koyack right, and pull him left as the lead blocker with Stanley sealing.

Nope. pass pass pass run pass pass pass run.

 

[Catholics_Rule]

This game is squarely on Kelly.
1. He runs a jet sweep with a wideout who fumbles the ball at the goal line. Use your RB inside the five.
2. TF is running well. He put a cold McDaniel in the game who proceeds to fumble.
3. He goes for two? What the heck was that about? Kick the ball and you still win.

This teams youth is starting to show. What I can't figure out is how the defense played so well the first half of the season has played so poorly the last four games? Our open field tackling needs to be worked on. Too many guys simply trying to strip the ball instead of getting on the runners legs.

Agreed.

 

[West Coast Domer]

Did kelly pass the ball at Cincy like he does here? If I was a RB I wouldn't come here. So damn stubborn. It's ok to realize you are wrong.

 

[BobD]

 

[dang227]

Just remember the old coaching phrase "you are what you see on tape". This is a sloppy, mentally weak, not fundamentally sound (especially on defense) football team and that falls squarely on the coaching staff


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[kmoose]

As we eagles fans call it, andy reid syndrome. Addicted to the pass

He was ONE play away from a perfect balance of run and pass. So those who claim he is addicted to passing, or that he refused to run the ball, obviously are only reacting emotionally, and blinded to the actual truth of the matter.

 

[dmort]

Benching Golson should be a priority.The kid gives away far too many points to the opposition.

 

[wizards8507]

He was ONE play away from a perfect balance of run and pass. So those who claim he is addicted to passing, or that he refused to run the ball, obviously are only reacting emotionally, and blinded to the actual truth of the matter.

50/50 isn't the balance you should be looking for

1. On a cold day.
2. Against an inferior opponent.
3. With a quarterback who's struggling.
4. When you need to kill clock.
5. When you have three capable RBs.
6. When your RB1 is on fire.
7. When the defensive line averages 275.
8. When you struggle to pass block.
9. When you open with a zone read TD.
10. When your passer is prone to turnovers.

 

[irishff1014]

Kelly may not sleep well but say that there is no way i could lay my head on that pillow and get a good nights sleep with this loss. I know of the toll that it takes to do this job but it looks to me it is getting the best of Kelly. He looks tired/wore out. Looks lost some times. And I know this has nothing to do with the team but is he and his wife splitting up? He never has his wedding ring on. If there is problems at home this could contribute to some of his ways lately. I am not saying this is happen just asking an honest question.

 

[kmoose]

50/50 isn't the balance you should be looking for

1. On a cold day.
2. Against an inferior opponent.
3. With a quarterback who's struggling.
4. When you need to kill clock.
5. When you have three capable RBs.
6. When your RB1 is on fire.
7. When the defensive line averages 275.
8. When you struggle to pass block.
9. When you open with a zone read TD.
10. When your passer is prone to turnovers.

I thought I was pretty clear about this: That stat was in response to people complaining that "all Kelly did was pass, after going up 11 with 6:00 left." Well, despite what their tumultuous emotions may be telling their memory; that just isn't true. He was actually pretty balanced.

 

[wizards8507]

He was actually pretty balanced.

I get it. My counter is that "balanced" is still too much passing in situational football. People aren't looking for "balanced" with the lead in the fourth quarter when Folston is in the zone. Balanced isn't good enough. Those times call for run-heavy.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I get it. My counter is that "balanced" is still too much passing in situational football. People aren't looking for "balanced" with the lead in the fourth quarter when Folston is in the zone. Balanced isn't good enough. Those times call for run-heavy.

Yup

 

[kmoose]

I get it. My counter is that "balanced" is still too much passing in situational football. People aren't looking for "balanced" with the lead in the fourth quarter when Folston is in the zone. Balanced isn't good enough. Those times call for run-heavy.

My counter is that I was just responding to what was posted. I know that that's a run heavy situation, and I am not arguing anything otherwise. All I am saying is that the poster who contended that Kelly did nothing but pass in that situation, is just wrong. And that's all I am saying.

 

[absoluteirish59]

This was as bad a loss as when Tulsa came in a few years ago. Makes me wonder are we really deserving of being in the NC conversation year to year. Why do we struggle against mediocre opponents? At home?? Turnovers are about discipline, and discipline comes from coaching. I spent 12 years coaching and we had drills every single day on ball security. I understand when you have a dynamic player like Golson, you are going to get some TO's, but you have to take the good with the bad. The talent is here, they just need to be shaped, molded, polished into a cohesive unit. That's where a good coach gets the most out of what they have.

Going for 2 in that spot made no sense at all. Not running the ball in overtime when we were getting over 5 yards a carry made no sense at all. These types of moves are more noticeable in a loss, but he has been doing this all year. I don't think Kelly is a head coach. An offensive Co. Yes for sure, but he needs someone above him to stop him from taking those foolish chances!

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

My counter is that I was just responding to what was posted. I know that that's a run heavy situation, and I am not arguing anything otherwise. All I am saying is that the poster who contended that Kelly did nothing but pass in that situation, is just wrong. And that's all I am saying.

No emotion at all from me. NW is ranked 115th in the country against the run, ND with young defense that couldn't get stops and gave up 500 yards, and BK wanted a shootout.

Is it insane to approach the game with a heavy ground game, clock control, long drives, and fewer turnovers? Please. BK is a real good coach but he got what he deserved yesterday.

Mayock said the same before kickoff in regards to what he expected to see from ND offensively.

 

[kmoose]

No emotion at all from me. NW is ranked 115th in the country against the run, ND with young defense that couldn't get stops and gave up 500 yards, and BK wanted a shootout.

Is it insane to approach the game with a heavy ground game, clock control, long drives, and fewer turnovers? Please. BK is a real good coach but he got what he deserved yesterday.

Mayock said the same before kickoff in regards to what he expected to see from ND offensively.

You are debating something entirely different. I have never said that we should not have run the ball more. In fact, if you go back through my posts in the post game threads, you will see plenty of support from me, for running the ball more. The stats that I posted were a direct refutation of someone else's assertion that Kelly did almost nothing but throw the ball, after going up by 11 with 6 minutes left.

 

[Irish2155]

This was as bad a loss as when Tulsa came in a few years ago. Makes me wonder are we really deserving of being in the NC conversation year to year. Why do we struggle against mediocre opponents? At home?? Turnovers are about discipline, and discipline comes from coaching. I spent 12 years coaching and we had drills every single day on ball security. I understand when you have a dynamic player like Golson, you are going to get some TO's, but you have to take the good with the bad. The talent is here, they just need to be shaped, molded, polished into a cohesive unit. That's where a good coach gets the most out of what they have.

Going for 2 in that spot made no sense at all. Not running the ball in overtime when we were getting over 5 yards a carry made no sense at all. These types of moves are more noticeable in a loss, but he has been doing this all year. I don't think Kelly is a head coach. An offensive Co. Yes for sure, but he needs someone above him to stop him from taking those foolish chances!

What year are you talking about?

Then who do you want? Maybe we should hire that guy you worked under those 12 years of CYO football.

 

[kmoose]

Maybe we should hire that guy you worked under those 12 years of CYO football.

His name was Gerry Faust.

 

[Irish2155]

His name was Gerry Faust.

Ha...he'd be one, of few, to take BK's gig...but is getting up there in age.

 

[absoluteirish59]

His name was Gerry Faust.

Make all the jokes you want. What I am saying is dead on. Kelly is an offensive coach. Period. He does not know how to "manage" a game with a lead. It's not in his DNA.

 

[BobD]

Haven't read the whole thread and I'm not going to. It's just my thought and you're fully allowed to call it crazy or idiotic, but I think BK has moved on to prepping for next year. 2 losses and the injuries to a certain extent have decided our fate already. Sure I think he'd do somethings differently yesterday, but we don't get do overs. Things got out of hand, mistakes happened. He's still the best guy for the job.

 

[kmoose]

Make all the jokes you want. What I am saying is dead on. Kelly is an offensive coach. Period. He does not know how to "manage" a game with a lead. It's not in his DNA.

You're right. He's amassed a 208-72-2 career record, as a Head Coach, because he's can't manage a game when he is winning.

 

[Irish2155]

Make all the jokes you want. What I am saying is dead on. Kelly is an offensive coach. Period. He does not know how to "manage" a game with a lead. It's not in his DNA.

Not joking, you are far from dead on. And I don't think I have to elaborate on that.

 

[koonja]

At least we finally have an identity. We are the turnover team.

 

[NCND]

You're right. He's amassed a 208-72-2 career record, as a Head Coach, because he's can't manage a game when he is winning.

You sir are making a lot of excuses for that piss poor performance yesterday. This wasnt Bama ND was playing it was freakin 3-6 Northwestern!

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

We should have been watching something similar to this yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp7O50QnH9Q

 

[Irish2155]

BK should have kicked the extra point.

But hindsight is what it is...defense gave up too many points.

 

[Irish Insanity]

You sir are making a lot of excuses for that piss poor performance yesterday. This wasnt Bama ND was playing it was freakin 3-6 Northwestern!

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