Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

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FDNYIrish1

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Jeez guys. You can be thankful for the job he did while simultaneously hoping he chokes on a bowl of gumbo. My sincerest hope for BK is that he has great success at LSU while never winning a national championship.
 

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Jeez guys. You can be thankful for the job he did while simultaneously hoping he chokes on a bowl of gumbo. My sincerest hope for BK is that he has great success at LSU while never winning a national championship.
I just don't care to hear about it anymore. He never understood a thing about the connection between what makes Notre Dame different and what makes it great. Never showed any curiosity in it or in anything else besides bending the whole thing towards his chintzy vision of success. Embarrassed the school and himself more times than I care to think about, a gauche, endlessly grasping shitheel. So what if he made the trains run on time. ND always deserved more, and he's somebody else's coach now. The end.
 

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College Football HoF requirement for induction: “He must have been a head coach for a minimum of 10 years and coached at least 100 games with a . 600 winning percentage”
So your standards for "great" are 10 years and a .600 winning percentage? Cool, we can put Kelly in the HOF right next to Mike Gundy. I am not discounting Kelly as a coach as you'd be stupid to say he isn't good, but the plain fact is that he beat one top 5 team at ND and never won a major bowl in 10+ years. His teams had a devastating habit of getting absolutely boat raced on the biggest stages.

If his current track record and a few good years at Cinci are what constitute a "great coach worthy of the HOF" then perhaps we just have different definitions.

What made John Cooper & Earle Bruce great? As you know, it’s their entire coaching career so BK’s time at ND is just a part of the story.
Nothing?
 

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I just don't care to hear about it anymore. He never understood a thing about the connection between what makes Notre Dame different and what makes it great. Never showed any curiosity in it or in anything else besides bending the whole thing towards his chintzy vision of success. Embarrassed the school and himself more times than I care to think about, a gauche, endlessly grasping shitheel. So what if he made the trains run on time. ND always deserved more, and he's somebody else's coach now. The end.
Probably in the wrong thread if you don’t want to hear about it anymore. FYI I agree with you. I just enjoy throwing shots at BK whenever possible.
 

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I just don't care to hear about it anymore. He never understood a thing about the connection between what makes Notre Dame different and what makes it great. Never showed any curiosity in it or in anything else besides bending the whole thing towards his chintzy vision of success. Embarrassed the school and himself more times than I care to think about, a gauche, endlessly grasping shitheel. So what if he made the trains run on time. ND always deserved more, and he's somebody else's coach now. The end.
You sound like the sort over on NDNation who got off on calling him Shanty Irish. Which is real classy considering what he's accomplished in his career.

I don't like the way Kelly left, at all, but he built our program into something pretty pretty good and unlike his predecessors he never ever made excuses or complained about Notre Dame being Notre Dame. He may have chosen an easier path toward the title he's chasing but he understands what Notre Dame is and means, I believe that. The endless shitting on him gets to be a lot, is all, and it's not jock sniffing to point that out.

Either way, as you said, he's somebody else's coach now. I like the guy we've got. We can move on.
 
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You sound like the sort over on NDNation who got off on calling him Shanty Irish. Which is real classy considering what he's accomplished in his career.

I don't like the way Kelly left, at all, but he built our program into something pretty pretty good and unlike his predecessors he never ever made excuses or complained about Notre Dame being Notre Dame. He may have chosen an easier path toward the title he's chasing but he understands what Notre Dame is and means, I believe that. The endless shitting on him gets to be a lot, is all, and it's not jock sniffing to point that out.

Either way, as you said, he's somebody else's coach now. I like the guy we've got. We can move on.
Agree, and all that you say is logical, but it’s this narrative of look what he can do without the restrictions at ND that is annoying and excuses the mistakes he made as coach at ND that had our team underperforming in critical ways. There is a world that exists where (1) Kelly did very good things for ND, (2) along with some not so good things, with an (3) admin. that supported him when he should have been fired (4) while also limiting some necessary and reasonable program changes, leaving us with a new coach that has demonstrated the potential for (5) ND to perform better in big games based on a growing culture shift. The bag is still out on Freeman, but he’s our head coach, not Kelly.

But I agree. Let’s lock up the thread.
 

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What makes him great? Genuinely curious. It took him 8 years to have back to back 10 win seasons. No New Years six bowl/BCS bowl wins.
His prime Years has had to deal with probably the most dominant program decade ever. He would have had by to beat Alabama.
 

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I think both coaches are really great. Its a great time to be an ND and College Football fan. I like BK finally beat Saban. Do I wish it was at ND? Sure but hopefully Freeman will do it when they meet up.

Perhaps this season is a sign that Saban's best years are behind him. He so dominated College Football and recruiting. More parity will be good for many programs including ND.
 

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So, what was everybody doing a year ago this week...

I was trying to have a date night with my wife and she was so irritated because my phone was going bonkers. I wasn't looking at it but she kept hearing it vibrating - over and over again. I got it out to turn it off and saw all the texts. That date was a disaster.
 

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So, what was everybody doing a year ago this week...

I was trying to have a date night with my wife and she was so irritated because my phone was going bonkers. I wasn't looking at it but she kept hearing it vibrating - over and over again. I got it out to turn it off and saw all the texts. That date was a disaster.

Was working a evening shift at a restaurant, and was constantly going outside between "chits" (tickets) to get the updates as they were coming in.
 

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Nobody on LSU had any idea that was a live ball. That's basic fundamentals.

Watch the UGA players & coaches.
10 players are walking away. The coaches are yelling to stay away from it.
One dude picked it up on UGA. One dude on LSU (who is not fast enough) immediately chased him.
So basically one fast guy on UGA & one slower guy on LSU knew.

People try so hard to bash BK.
 

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Looks like Georgia was just messing around in the first quarter.
 

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I mean that type of crazy shit happened on a fairly consistent basis during his time at ND. Particularly pre 2017.

I honestly can’t remember any D1 coach who’s teams consistently found so many different ways to lose during that stretch.
Like INTs off helmets…
 
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