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His halftime speech last night for gun control in the wake of the Belcher tragedy. He's quoting Jason Whitlock.

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Personally I don't think agreeing or disagreeing with Bob is the issue. I think he crossed a line. If I wanted to get political commentary, I know what channels to watch.

If you are commenting on the story, fine, it's relevent to his job.
But keep your damn politics out of my football games.
 

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This is not going to end well.

However using this link: Murders with firearms statistics - countries compared - NationMaster Crime

Notable countries with gun control include Canada and the United Kingdom. Extrapolate 10x for population difference and Canada is still about 8000 gun related murders from the US, the UK? About 70.

You can believe in anything you want, the right to bear arms is huge. Note that in Canada, private citizens can own guns, but its heavily regulated. Statistics don't lie and I believe that someone will drudge up some statistic to prove my link wrong. Stats can be skewed in any way you see fit. And I am not commenting on how I feel because I know where this debate is headed.

As far as Bob Costas is concerned, he is paid for his opinion. If the networks didn't like it, he wouldn't be the figure head. He commented on a touchy subject at a relevant time.
 

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I just thought he should have stuck to reporting on the story, I don't think it was the time or place to start talking about gun ownership. That's what surprised me the most.
 

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I support extreme regulation on assault weapons, but am for gun rights otherwise.

We do understand that you can kill people without using guns right? I don't believe gun regulation would stop murders or gang violence a bit. What are you going to go, go and take back all of the guns? That makes about as much sense as the idiotic Republicans who want to deport the tens of millions of illegals in this country.
 
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don't need the politicakll commentary late on Sunday watching football...may sound good in NYC, but that crap don't fly down here. In fact, sales probably went out of site today. If you learn any lesson when you see these catastrophes i.e. Katrina...don't be waiting around expecting some govt. agency to take care of you. Better have guns and ammo to fend off the roaming bands that rule in the wake until order is restored. We pack, and we will use. Costas probably lives in a gated community, far away from the "real " world and all that it entails.
 

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I don't have a problem with the discussion of gun regulation, etc... because open and honest discussion is always healthy.

I do have a problem with Bob Costas pontificating at the "American public" like he's the authority on life. He's paid to be a sports commentator, his opinion on anything else is no more valuable than your local Starbucks barista. He's just another person and there are 300 million others just like him in this country... so I would prefer if he kept his sanctimonious opinions to himself and off nationwide television.
 

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Sorry I hate when sports and politics mix, if i wanted a political opinion I would of went to FOX/CNN/NBC. smh
 

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Why are liberals so fired up about changing the constitution, Bill of Rights, and Amendments?
 

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I don't have a problem with the discussion of gun regulation, etc... because open and honest discussion is always healthy.

I do have a problem with Bob Costas pontificating at the "American public" like he's the authority on life. He's paid to be a sports commentator, his opinion on anything else is no more valuable than your local Starbucks barista. He's just another person and there are 300 million others just like him in this country... so I would prefer if he kept his sanctimonious opinions to himself and off nationwide television.

Btw, I can't be the only one that is bothered by simple jobs like coffee makers at Starbucks or the customer service desk at apple being given uppity names like' barista' or 'genius bar'... Dude, you make minimum wage, don't try to sound otherwise...

;)
 

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Im all for owning guns ( which i do) but i can see how people will want tighter gun control. I will say this though if you make gun control a larger issue people will just start to aquire guns illegally. Guns arent going away
 

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I don't have a problem with the discussion of gun regulation, etc... because open and honest discussion is always healthy.

I do have a problem with Bob Costas pontificating at the "American public" like he's the authority on life. He's paid to be a sports commentator, his opinion on anything else is no more valuable than your local Starbucks barista. He's just another person and there are 300 million others just like him in this country... so I would prefer if he kept his sanctimonious opinions to himself and off nationwide television.

Well Bob has always been a self absorbed douche.
 

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Tragic, but he shot her 9 times. This wasn't an accident. Does anyone here think that she would still be alive if Belcher didn't have a gun on him? It could have just as easily been a knife or his hands.
 

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Like peace in the middle east and trying to find a word that rhymes with orange, this ain't worth discussing.
 

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I am a gun owner and have the opinion that most crimes committed with guns are not by someone that purchased it legally. The way that the government has proposed it's gun control is nothing more than an illusion of control. It is geared to more heavily regulate the people that responsibly own and purchase fire arms. If you want to see a decrease in crimes involving guns how about severe penalties for any crime committed with a gun, give the criminal something to consider before doing it. As it is now they serve a couple of years in prison if at all. Use the penalty as a deterrent. The idea of an assault rifle ban is another bad idea and a whole other discussion.
 

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Tragic, but he shot her 9 times. This wasn't an accident. Does anyone here think that she would still be alive if Belcher didn't have a gun on him? It could have just as easily been a knife or his hands.

on the specific incident at hand...this is the ONE and ONLY defining issue. When you shoot someone 9 freakin times...you were out of your mind angry. Knife, lamp, bare hands, table, vase. He was going to kill her. The presence and "convenience" of a handgun...PLEASE!

and FWIW I agree w Buster which is why I don't belong to the NRA anymore..but this notion that more control over guns in general is in any way meaningful is dumb, but typical.

Anyway, so now we move forward to whitlock and then subsequently Costas. They took this tragedy and blurred what it was (who cares why)...

I believe there is something to be learned from this tragedy...something the NFL and all of us need to look at, as so aptly put by Brady Quinn. What happened to this guy? Something was going on! Why didn't someone know? Why couldn't he say? What triggered the domestic violence? Is there something NFL players, spouses, and family members need to work on here to recognize and to have a vehicle to intervene? This was domestic violence...was it brought on by head trama? something else? Point is, when taken for what it was, somebody can address it, and responsible press can help create an urgency to do something beneficial, but only if they stay on point...NOPE!

...what Costas failed to realize is he was contributing to the fog that causes paralysis and inaction. His words CAUSE the issues to linger not quite perceived correctly, uncomfortable, and ultimately pushed out of the fore of conscience...until it happens again. He hijacked this tragedy, used whitlocks mischaracterization, and doomed more vicitms becuase it is now a gun issue.

Bob Costas failed in an epic proportion and did more harm than good here...
 

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a buddy of mine sent this...on FB.

On December 16, 2009, Cincinnati Bengal receiver, Chris Henry, died after falling out of a pick up truck being driven by his girlfriend, Loleini Tonga. The couple had a domestic dispute and Henry had jumped into the truck in an effort to stop Ms. Tonga from leaving. In an editorial on MNF, Bob Costas was never quoted as saying: "If Henry did not own a truck, I am sure that he would be alive today."
 

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I have about as much use for Bob Costas as I do for The Dixie Chicks, Susan Sarandon, and Sean Penn.
 

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He spoke the truth about a bunch of knuckle heads with money. thats life get ouver it.
 

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Btw, I can't be the only one that is bothered by simple jobs like coffee makers at Starbucks or the customer service desk at apple being given uppity names like' barista' or 'genius bar'... Dude, you make minimum wage, don't try to sound otherwise...

;)

Being a real barista requires a bit of training and knowledge seeing as the equipment they use can cost in the range of 10-15 grand. I agree with you that I can't stand the lofty titles given to menial jobs, but in the case of baristas, they actually earn it.

And by the way, Costas can keep his self-righteous speeches to himself. Don't use this tragedy to get on your soapbox and push your agenda.
 

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Like an NFL linebacker couldn't kill a woman with his own hands.

It's unlikely that he would have strangled a woman to her death without really meaning it. Reports are that he pulled the trigger and then immediately regretted it. This is from the mother who was there at the scene and witnessed it all.

As for Jason Whitlock, shouldn't he be obsessing on the size of Jeremy Lin's "equipment?" The only other time I've heard of that dude is when he was sticking his foot in his mouth making racist statements during Linsanity

The argument for gun control isn't about whether citizens should have guns. It boils down to whether you want unhinged, criminal or otherwise unfit people to have easy access. And how hard you want to make it for them.
 

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It's unlikely that he would have strangled a woman to her death without really meaning it. Reports are that he pulled the trigger and then immediately regretted it. This is from the mother who was there at the scene and witnessed it all..

and the other 8 shots were out of mercy then?

As for Jason Whitlock, shouldn't he be obsessing on the size of Jeremy Lin's "equipment?" The only other time I've heard of that dude is when he was sticking his foot in his mouth making racist statements during Linsanity.

...funny

The argument for gun control isn't about whether citizens should have guns. It boils down to whether you want unhinged, criminal or otherwise unfit people to have easy access. And how hard you want to make it for them.

go try and purchase a weapon from a legit gun dealer, and READ the form you fll out.

Then go get a concealed carry permit and READ the material in the course you take.

I don't know how you make it harder w/o forcing people to provide proof via medical records they aren't nuts.
 

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It's unlikely that he would have strangled a woman to her death without really meaning it. Reports are that he pulled the trigger and then immediately regretted it. This is from the mother who was there at the scene and witnessed it all.
As for Jason Whitlock, shouldn't he be obsessing on the size of Jeremy Lin's "equipment?" The only other time I've heard of that dude is when he was sticking his foot in his mouth making racist statements during Linsanity

The argument for gun control isn't about whether citizens should have guns. It boils down to whether you want unhinged, criminal or otherwise unfit people to have easy access. And how hard you want to make it for them.

At which point did he "immediately regret it"?

After the first shot? The second? The third? The fourth? The fifth? The sixth? The seventh? The eighth? The ninth?
 

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I'm in no way saying that I have an issue with everyone's 2nd amendment right...I think the biggest issue is that in a fit of anger, insanity, or whatever the case may be...It is much easier to pull a trigger than it is to stab or choke somebody...It's like my dad always said to me, "I raised you to walk away from conflict. Not because I want you to be a b*tch. I just fear that it is so easy today to pull a trigger when you're really angry than handling it with your hands like we did back in the day." My 2 cents...IDK...
 
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