The NFL is going through an evolution. Pro teams are having success with spread/read option/dual threat QBs. Because of this, NFL teams are tapping into the FBS-well where coaches have experience running these formations/offenses. Because the NFL traditionally doesn't hire college coaches without NFL ties, doesn't mean there's no precedent for it.
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The NFL is going through an evolution. Pro teams are having success with spread/read option/dual threat QBs. Because of this, NFL teams are tapping into the FBS-well where coaches have experience running these formations/offenses. Because the NFL traditionally doesn't hire college coaches without NFL ties, doesn't mean there's no precedent for it.
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Except next year Michigan doesn't throw 5 INTs, Purdue brings their A game, Pittsburgh doesn't miss the FG and our FG is called due to 2 people wearing the same number, BYU scored 1 more TD, Taylor gets the call on 4th down and USC gets the 4th down pass for a TD.
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I think its about time actually.
I'd rather gamble on a wildcard than hire Wade Philips or Norv Turner to make my team 8-8 on a good year.
He's done it by making aggressive jumps to the next level like he has over the last 6-9 years.
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But they're not. Look at the current head coaches and current OC's of the NFL and tell me who from the college game has been tapped to run this spread type offense?
Look at the teams that do run something similar, like the 'Skins for example. Shannahan has always been a coach to get 1000 yard rushers in his scheme and was successful with a QB who can run in John Elway (not to mention the dude is a legend). Now, he has RGIII and they won 10 games and all but look at RGIII now. This is why teams won't commit fully to something like the spread because they are paying an enormous amount of money for these QBs and need to win now but they end up taking too many hits and get hurt.
Look at Cam Newton, didn't even make the playoffs. Look at Mike Vick, never did anything in the playoffs. Randall Cunningham..same thing. The NFL is not looking for the spread offense. The QB just takes too many hits and the contracts these guys have is not worth it. The last QB with any type of wheels to win a SB was John Elway.
They aren't hiring BK because of an offense he really hasn't even run the past few years.
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I agree with all of this, except Rodgers has decent wheels.
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Fair point. I did forget him for whatever reason...but you got the point. lol
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Hey, not cool! Where did Joe Theisman and Rocket Ismail choose to go for their first taste of pro ball?
While it isn
't the NFL, it isn't a joke either.
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The more this goes on, the more I believe he's gone. Hate to say it.
We need to hear from BK.
We need to hear from BK.
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Which FBS coach has been hired by an NFL team with zero NFL experience at any level?
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Tom Brady is quick too
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Maybe he's just in negotiation pattern? He's really not needed until after the quiet period if Im not mistaken.
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In order for him to be gone, he would have to want to go AND the Eaglea would have to want him. I don't think either is the case. I believe the Eaglea did his agent a favor, although there is something in it for them too: it also gives them leverage when negotiating with the guy they want if they have more viable options.
My only concern here is that this was bad advice from the agent, meaning that the leverage play was too transparent, Swarbrick calls his bluff, BK gets his ego hurt, and the thing blows up.
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And when has Swarbrick ever played these things out in public? Hell, he told Michigan they were off our schedule by personally handing them a note after the decision was made to take them off the schedule, thirty minutes before the game.
Isnt this BK's second 12-0 season at the FBS level? He also had success at the other levels of college football right? What's his record over all the last 5 or 6 years? I guess its pretty good. His window for the NFL may never be better. Maybe he thinks the time to jump is now and suddenly realized it; while watching Alabama Monday night.
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notre dame football anzalone - chicagotribune.com
Okay, now let the panic rain down. Anzalone decommits?
Okay, now let the panic rain down. Anzalone decommits?
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Wes Morgan has a great interview up on BGI with a couple of Eagles players who know Kelly from their college days. One played for him at Cincy. Said he would be surprised if Kelly left ND so soon because it was really a dream job for him. But also said that he believes Kelly wants to coach in the NFL someday and that his 'next man in' mentality translates very well to the NFL level.
It seems pretty clear to me at this point that Kelly does have serious interest in the Eagles job. But that's not to say he'll take it ... like Chip Kelly, he may decide he just isn't ready to take that step yet.
It seems pretty clear to me at this point that Kelly does have serious interest in the Eagles job. But that's not to say he'll take it ... like Chip Kelly, he may decide he just isn't ready to take that step yet.
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I don't see Kelly leaving at all.
He's at that point in his tenure at ND where the program begins to run itself. I don't mean to say that it becomes easier or anything, but the transition period is over.
He's not dealing with 85 players/staff/etc that have no idea what to expect. He's fully implemented his system, hes made many internal changes, the veteran players know what he expects from them which trickles down to the younger players/incoming recruits. Even his input has been valued regarding field turf and jumbotron.
At the end of the day, you have to remember that this hysteria was caused by a rumor mill(espn) and a notoriously incorrect scumbag by the name of Adam Schefter.
BK shouldn't be required nor expected to respond to a media rumor, regardless of the blind speculation or hysteria.
If he is leveraging, big deal, it's business. Either way, he's not going to the NFL yet. It just isn't the time yet.
He's at that point in his tenure at ND where the program begins to run itself. I don't mean to say that it becomes easier or anything, but the transition period is over.
He's not dealing with 85 players/staff/etc that have no idea what to expect. He's fully implemented his system, hes made many internal changes, the veteran players know what he expects from them which trickles down to the younger players/incoming recruits. Even his input has been valued regarding field turf and jumbotron.
At the end of the day, you have to remember that this hysteria was caused by a rumor mill(espn) and a notoriously incorrect scumbag by the name of Adam Schefter.
BK shouldn't be required nor expected to respond to a media rumor, regardless of the blind speculation or hysteria.
If he is leveraging, big deal, it's business. Either way, he's not going to the NFL yet. It just isn't the time yet.
I don't think the Eagles would be wasting their time with guys like Chip & Brian Kelly if there wasn't legitimate interest on their part to take a chance on a good coach regardless of NFL connections/experience.
Also, I don't see much difference between coaches like Schiano, Marrone, Harbaugh, Carroll, etc. (who have some connection to the NFL, but the large majority of their head coaching experience, and success, in the FBS), and a coach like Brian Kelly.
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Did you read it? It says that BKs talks with the Eagles caused it.
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Oops, I was reading through the mountain of BK posts and I had missed the Anzalone news. I skipped a couple of pages where the Anzalone related fury occured and I thought it was newer news.
Anyway...
Anyway...
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Chip Kelly has been rumored for a few years to be going to the NFL but has backed off both times. The Eagles are just doing their due diligence. They will end interviewing dozens of guys, some names you know of and others you won't hear about.
Marrone, Harbaugh, and Carroll all have significant connections to the NFL. Schiano had a small one but was also at Rutgers. Not an ND or Alabama type of school. Guys go from the NFL as an assistant to the college as a head coach to gain head coaching experience. The difference is BK has ZERO connections to the NFL other then maybe some hi's and hello's. Not as a player, an assistant, scout, video guy..nothing.
Not what the article says is all I am saying. Quoting creditable sources.
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If Kelly met with the Eagles there are 3 possible reasons:
1. He somewhere inside of him has aspirations of going to the NFL (maybe he'll decline the offer now but if he has that desire he'll never let it go and this distraction will take place every year until he eventually leaves).
2. He doesn't feel confident that he'll ever again be able to match this season and is afraid of the high expectations he'll be expected to deliver from now on and he wants to get out while he's still ahead.
3. He really wants to just use the NFL to leverage ND to lock him in to more money and a longer term contract.
These are the only 3 possibilities i can come up with and any way i look at it, i dont like any of them.
If the truth is #1 then the best thing is for him to go now and let us move on, but i truly thought Kelly wasn't a guy to use ND as a stepping stone and i never thought he had NFL aspirations.
If the truth is #2 (which from a personal perspective of financial security makes sense) then he isn't the coach he proclaimed himself to be. The Brian Kelly that i thought we had was never one to run from challenges and expectations. And there's a big difference in my mind from declining a challenge (going to the NFL) than running away from a challenge in your current position (maintaining ND atop college football's elite year in and year out)
If the truth is #3 then it's the same as #2 in that he isnt confident he'll have continued success. If he knows he is going to win and build a dynasty at ND and feels confident in himself then he wouldn't have to rush to try and leverage a big contract and extension immediately after he puts together 1 very good season. If he truly were confident in himself then he would know that continued success would earn him immortal status as well as complete job security and financial success.
The second i heard Kelly had been in talks with the Eagles was the second I realized Kelly isn't so much a coach but a salesman/businessman and as of last night i no longer care or am going to listen to what he is selling.
1. He somewhere inside of him has aspirations of going to the NFL (maybe he'll decline the offer now but if he has that desire he'll never let it go and this distraction will take place every year until he eventually leaves).
2. He doesn't feel confident that he'll ever again be able to match this season and is afraid of the high expectations he'll be expected to deliver from now on and he wants to get out while he's still ahead.
3. He really wants to just use the NFL to leverage ND to lock him in to more money and a longer term contract.
These are the only 3 possibilities i can come up with and any way i look at it, i dont like any of them.
If the truth is #1 then the best thing is for him to go now and let us move on, but i truly thought Kelly wasn't a guy to use ND as a stepping stone and i never thought he had NFL aspirations.
If the truth is #2 (which from a personal perspective of financial security makes sense) then he isn't the coach he proclaimed himself to be. The Brian Kelly that i thought we had was never one to run from challenges and expectations. And there's a big difference in my mind from declining a challenge (going to the NFL) than running away from a challenge in your current position (maintaining ND atop college football's elite year in and year out)
If the truth is #3 then it's the same as #2 in that he isnt confident he'll have continued success. If he knows he is going to win and build a dynasty at ND and feels confident in himself then he wouldn't have to rush to try and leverage a big contract and extension immediately after he puts together 1 very good season. If he truly were confident in himself then he would know that continued success would earn him immortal status as well as complete job security and financial success.
The second i heard Kelly had been in talks with the Eagles was the second I realized Kelly isn't so much a coach but a salesman/businessman and as of last night i no longer care or am going to listen to what he is selling.
The NFL has been hiring successful FBS coaches over the last several years and there seems to be legitimate/mutual interest between successful FBS coaches like Brian Kelly & Chip Kelly. Because FBS coaches are having success in the NFL, even though the bulk of their experience/success is as an FBS coach, NFL teams are entertaining FBS coaches at a greater rate in recent history.
We have no clue on what the Eagle's true intentions are, but we can bank on the fact that there's interest on their part, or they would simply not waste their time interviewing BK or CK (Chip Kelly).