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NorthDakota

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Any number of the lawyers on IE will tell you that legal strategy is a terrible and embarrassing one. Any self respecting person would never use that defense.

So if it's unverifiable, we're working off of the "dude trust me" theory?

If the other side believes Brian Kemp and Doug Ducey somehow rigged the Dem primary and the general election, then the other side is truly truly lost. I mean, how does that logic work? The dem cabal somehow was able to infiltrate the republican states to overthrow their election processes?

My only legal experience is clerking for a judge and discussing stuff with him. So the actual practice of law is beyond me other than talking with him and some of the guys/gals who popped into the courtroom.

But I suppose if you find yourself in a bind it might be reasonable to use the legal arguments that have worked for others. "I'm being sued for (this)...well Jimmy used (that) arguement and won, so I will too." No idea what the law is on all that stuff. Still got a feeling she's getting wrecked.

I guess the larger point is its not a great idea to look at a legal argument as a moral/personal argument. I'll leave it to the practicing guys/gals with experience to opine with legit experience. I read textbooks. They deal with real life lol.

edit: Sydney Powell is nuts lol. But I think a lot of folks are willing to lose self respect if it means they save a lot oh money/jail time.

People plead guilty to crimes they didn't do. Similar concept.
 

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An amazing thread showing the media carrying water for Biden and attacking Trump on the same decision in Afghanistan.

Journalism is dead.


[TWEET]https://twitter.com/drewholden360/status/1382477293797400581?s=21[/TWEET]
 

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An amazing thread showing the media carrying water for Biden and attacking Trump on the same decision in Afghanistan.

Journalism is dead.


[TWEET]https://twitter.com/drewholden360/status/1382477293797400581?s=21[/TWEET]

If you actually read the Times you'd see stories pointing out concerns from the mil/hawks that Afganistan will turn into a terrorist haven in the medium term. You'd also know Biden disagreed with Obama and wanted us out in the Obama presidency.
 

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I'm not sure what the proper strategy is regarding Afghanistan. But leaving on the 20th anniversary of the darkest day in American history seems like giving the bad guys a big W.
 

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If you actually read the Times you'd see stories pointing out concerns from the mil/hawks that Afganistan will turn into a terrorist haven in the medium term. You'd also know Biden disagreed with Obama and wanted us out in the Obama presidency.

It's the media hypocrisy that was being demonstrated. I think his exact words were
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It's the media hypocrisy that was being demonstrated. I think his exact words were
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Sure, you're picking the most anti trump headlines contrasted with the most pro biden takes. The MSM articles/stories have been mixed from what I've seen. The issues I had with Trump foreign policy in general was how helter skelter it was, not general philosophy (if there was one)
 

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The article is paywalled, but in Matt Yglesias's substack he shows why the Middle East used to be #1 in geostrategic importance. In the cold war we were a big oil importer and the Soviets could sweep in and cut us off from oil, crippling our economy. At the current time we're net exporters and China's economy is way more exposed to oil shocks than ours is. Additionally, Israel seems to have made peace with the Sunnis in an alliance with Iran. If we can stop the two sides from getting into a nuclear arms race and stop terrorist states from setting up that's what we need.

Basically we need to get out of the Middle East and focus on East Asia. We spend more on defense than the next 10 countries added up, in large part because we've made commitments/goals that aren't doable.
 

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The article is paywalled, but in Matt Yglesias's substack he shows why the Middle East used to be #1 in geostrategic importance. In the cold war we were a big oil importer and the Soviets could sweep in and cut us off from oil, crippling our economy. At the current time we're net exporters and China's economy is way more exposed to oil shocks than ours is. Additionally, Israel seems to have made peace with the Sunnis in an alliance with Iran. If we can stop the two sides from getting into a nuclear arms race and stop terrorist states from setting up that's what we need.

Basically we need to get out of the Middle East and focus on East Asia. We spend more on defense than the next 10 countries added up, in large part because we've made commitments/goals that aren't doable.

Energy independence was the best foreign policy move ever and first thing Biden worked to undo. And so much of our military "spending" is on salaries, pensions, VA, disability. China can maintain 10 troops for the price we put in to one and probably doesn't care if they have PTSD or missing limbs for the rest of their lives. With WWII, Korea and Vietnam vets dying off we are replacing their "cost" of disability and medical with a new generation of 20-30 year olds with a lifetime of disability and medical costs ahead of them. Conveniently keeps that military budget up. I'm all for a ready military but spending decades maiming ourselves after 9/11 is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Anyone who thinks Biden is eliciting respect from the rest of the world is comically naive.
 

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Energy independence was the best foreign policy move ever and first thing Biden worked to undo. And so much of our military "spending" is on salaries, pensions, VA, disability. China can maintain 10 troops for the price we put in to one and probably doesn't care if they have PTSD or missing limbs for the rest of their lives. With WWII, Korea and Vietnam vets dying off we are replacing their "cost" of disability and medical with a new generation of 20-30 year olds with a lifetime of disability and medical costs ahead of them. Conveniently keeps that military budget up. I'm all for a ready military but spending decades maiming ourselves after 9/11 is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Anyone who thinks Biden is eliciting respect from the rest of the world is comically naive.

I totally agree with this. I don't think keeping a handful of people in Afghanistan is handcuffing us in Asia, but I also would have been happy to get out of Afghanistan in 2014. Period.

China and SE Asia is the new ballpark. I think we need a President who pushes our allies to increase their defense spending and create a more formidable alliance to oppose the rising threat from China. Biden laughed at China as a candidate, but I doubt he is now. Bipartisanship on military spending is always smooth and amazing. Don't hold your breath for cuts.
 

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I totally agree with this. I don't think keeping a handful of people in Afghanistan is handcuffing us in Asia, but I also would have been happy to get out of Afghanistan in 2004. Period.

China and SE Asia is the new ballpark. I think we need a President who pushes our allies to increase their defense spending and create a more formidable alliance to oppose the rising threat from China. Biden laughed at China as a candidate, but I doubt he is now. Bipartisanship on military spending is always smooth and amazing. Don't hold your breath for cuts.

FIFY

We had a president who pushed our allies to increase defense spending - he was lambasted in the media for not playing nice and ignored for being effective at getting NATO to up their spending.

And it's OK, China is laughing at Biden now so they are kind of even.
 

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Biden's on record wanting out of Afganistan in Obama's 1st term. He got overruled. Also, economically we'll need to coordinate with Europe/ our SE asian friends in this. They happen to respect the current guy more than the former guy...
 

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Biden's on record wanting out of Afganistan in Obama's 1st term. He got overruled. Also, economically we'll need to coordinate with Europe/ our SE asian friends in this. They happen to respect the current guy more than the former guy...

They didn’t like Trump because Trumpet called a spade a spade. He called for allies to step up and carry they’re own weight in these matters.
 

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They didn’t like Trump because Trumpet called a spade a spade. He called for allies to step up and carry they’re own weight in these matters.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-at-us-claim-linking-coronavirus-to-wuhan-lab

They disliked Trump because they saw him as an illiberal twit who both wanted to withdraw from the world but also dictate what would happen. Working within global frameworks is a force multiplier for us. I studied abroad in Australia and my conservative aussie friend frequently asked how we could vote in the former guy.
 

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Did I miss any discussion about CNN getting exposed this week (Not that any of it was really shocking) or the "Russian Bountygate" from last year being confirmed a hoax by our intelligence?
 

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Did I miss any discussion about CNN getting exposed this week (Not that any of it was really shocking) or the "Russian Bountygate" from last year being confirmed a hoax by our intelligence?

I think most serious people recognize CNN is propaganda anyways. The cycle of unsubstantiated claims targeting Republicans getting blown up as news stories to hammer Republicans and then quietly getting retracted months after the damage is done is rather annoying. Georgia call was an interesting one and we still don’t have a source for the Atlantic hit piece on suckers and losers. It’s all bullshit to control the narrative.
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-at-us-claim-linking-coronavirus-to-wuhan-lab

They disliked Trump because they saw him as an illiberal twit who both wanted to withdraw from the world but also dictate what would happen. Working within global frameworks is a force multiplier for us. I studied abroad in Australia and my conservative aussie friend frequently asked how we could vote in the former guy.

He wanted to withdraw because he saw we were not getting the assistance and backing from others. He felt it was unfair for the US to constantly do all the heavy lifting and spending the most. Unlike predecessors, he was willing to take a different approach to get a response.

I get your disdain for Trump, but there were areas like this where it takes a different approach. Otherwise it’s the same day after day with no improvement.
 

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As it pertains to the Stans... IIRC, when Trump wanted to get out, libs flipped their shit and all of sudden "generals" came out to criticize.

This is a non-partisan issue that partisans will make an issue. It's disgusting.

If you think the US should be in the shit of every situation, you might have a "control" issue.

Make the other "leading" countries do their part and set examples. Oh wait, the previous admin asked that.
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-at-us-claim-linking-coronavirus-to-wuhan-lab

They disliked Trump because they saw him as an illiberal twit who both wanted to withdraw from the world but also dictate what would happen. Working within global frameworks is a force multiplier for us. I studied abroad in Australia and my conservative aussie friend frequently asked how we could vote in the former guy.

First of all, conservatives or liberals here, are not the same as there, or other places. There's a huge difference in most of the ranges.

In terms of Australia, where I have a few friends.... One could say they are stoolies to the Chinese. The gov, per opinion of some, has been infiltrated. Won't go that far, but if you know, or live in Australia, you know it's a real debate. And you also know the dependencies.

Trump was a twit, but the current is a much weaker twit who lets your closest neighbor, and closest threat prosper. You sound like a lib that spent time in the land down under, but only rep a small portion of the country.
 

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First of all, conservatives or liberals here, are not the same as there, or other places. There's a huge difference in most of the ranges.

In terms of Australia, where I have a few friends.... One could say they are stoolies to the Chinese. The gov, per opinion of some, has been infiltrated. Won't go that far, but if you know, or live in Australia, you know it's a real debate. And you also know the dependencies.

Trump was a twit, but the current is a much weaker twit who lets your closest neighbor, and closest threat prosper. You sound like a lib that spent time in the land down under, but only rep a small portion of the country.

Joe Biden is the dude who thinks it's a cool idea to pull out of Afghanistan on the 20th anniversary of 9/11... and the bitchboy who didn't want to kill Osama.

Whether you are a hawk, or a dove, dude has about as much of an instinct for foreign policy as an 8 year old. It's easy to see why he plagiarized in law school lol.
 

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Damnit Joe. Don't make me put off my retirement so you can pay for your spending spree.
 

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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1385280458594963457?s=20[/TWEET]
 

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Every stock in my portfolio took a hit today and my crypto value was almost cut in half.

I'm not part of the tippy top that Biden and co. want to tax.

Thanks Biden, you fossilized f*ckface.
 

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Every stock in my portfolio took a hit today and my crypto value was almost cut in half.

I'm not part of the tippy top that Biden and co. want to tax.

Thanks Biden, you fossilized f*ckface.

But the tweets aren’t mean.

I bought Doge like an hour ago and watching it still move lower. Odds of Joe Manchin approving are low, so use it to buy. Republicans are moving closer to signing off on a corporate tax hike though as the political realignment continues and the anti- corporate vibe grows in the GOP.
 

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Capital gains need to be taxed at a similar rate to wages. The difference has led to market distortions. To make this work you need to index the assets to inflation. My hope is this/infrastructure etc. Are big opening salvos so that biden can get what he wants after compromises are made.

Also, Goldman has found that when taxes on assets go up you generally get a short term sell off but in the medium/long term the market stabilizes“History shows stock prices fall, equity allocations decline, and momentum underperforms ahead of increases in the capital gains tax rate,” Goldman strategists wrote. “However, any potential equity selling will be short-lived and reversed in subsequent quarters.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...een-as-at-risk-in-biden-tax-plan?srnd=premium.
 

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But the tweets aren’t mean.

I bought Doge like an hour ago and watching it still move lower. Odds of Joe Manchin approving are low, so use it to buy. Republicans are moving closer to signing off on a corporate tax hike though as the political realignment continues and the anti- corporate vibe grows in the GOP.

Yeah, sucks because this really shot a lot of the crypto momentum in the foot.

XRP and Doge were up big time and this news caused them to sink like a rock. I'm still up considerably on both, but it still really ruffles my jammies.
 
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