Another Shooting

[TorontoGold]

Do you realize how silly it is for you to demand that anyone answer your questions or respond to your points or show you anything, given the, literally, hundreds of times you've simply changed the subject, reworded their question, dodged, obfuscated, spun, and generally whipped up yet another Toronto Vortex cyclone of spin to avoid tough questions and valid points? Answer my question about which, according to you, 100% real woman chick with a dick you find attractive and would bang. Answer my question about how, given that all the previous gun and crime laws don't stop gun violence, another set of laws will. Don't spin. Don't avoid. Don't reword the questions into something totally different and easy to answer (you know, that strawman thing you do so well). I asked those questions first. When you give a reasonable, honest, direct answer, then I'll gladly answer your questions. Go ahead. Show us you can do it.

Since I love arguing. The issue with your questions are they aren't easily measurable, the question is subjective and the answer you're going to get is subjective and you won't like it. It's set up to fail.

1) My genital preferences do not and should not determine whether someone is a man/woman. If there is someone with a vagina that I would not sleep with, under your logic that would mean that they aren't a woman. I don't think it's fair to them to invalidate their gender because I wouldn't sleep with them.

2) This one is easier because the safest countries in the world also have the strictest gun safety laws. Iceland/Switzerland are great examples of places with lots of guns and strong laws in place. Japan has some pretty good controls but wouldn't be feasible. Even up here we have the 7th most guns in the world. There's tons of ways of doing things better, but again, it won't happen because the political will isn't there and it's likely unconstitutional.

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Now that I answered, care to enlighten us on how you came to the conclusion that Walmart closed the stores because of crime? and how San Fran defunded the police? As well as the violent crime that is making San Fran "a mess"?

 

[TorontoGold]

It would be a bad look from a publicity side to say they were closing the Portland WalMart because of all of the theft. IIRC there were several articles that alluded to crime being the reason they closed that store.

It would be a bad look because the stats don't line up with it. If it was truly because of the theft they would have released their inventory loss rates to show the comparison between the Portland stores and their store average loss rate. They did not do that.

 

[Blazers46]

Neither are the people he killed. To be clear I’m criticizing strictly from a LEO POV. Like why would a LEO want a gun with a serial number already associated with a crime back in circulation? I don’t know I’m not really hung up on it it just seems like the weapons used to commit crimes should be destroyed once they are of no use as evidence. Seems to me once something is officially logged as evidence in a crime it shouldn’t have the opportunity to be put back into society.

You would be sad to learn that a lot of government auction items are sold straight out of the evidence room.

We used to buy from these auctions all the time and I’ve bought things from diamond rings to cars with blood stains in the back seat.

 

[Blazers46]

It would be a bad look because the stats don't line up with it. If it was truly because of the theft they would have released their inventory loss rates to show the comparison between the Portland stores and their store average loss rate. They did not do that.

There is a reason retail stores don’t share it. Why would they basically advertise how bad theft is? Think about it. Crime is basically a contagion. If you advertise exactly how bad crime is your are inviting it by bringing attention to it. You an accountant. If you started advertising how to commit tax fraud and explain how often it happens and how often people get away with it you would naturally see a rise is tax fraud.

 

[TorontoGold]

There is a reason retail stores don’t share it. Why would they basically advertise how bad theft is? Think about it. Crime is basically a contagion. If you advertise exactly how bad crime is your are inviting it by bringing attention to it. You an accountant. If you started advertising how to commit tax fraud and explain how often it happens and how often people get away with it you would naturally see a rise is tax fraud.

Sure they do. Target made mention of theft in an earnings call, literally one of the most important places to make the comment. Target CFO: 'Organized retail crime' contributed to hundreds of millions in lost profits in 2022

If Walmart thought it was such a pressing issue they would have mentioned it. They didn't mention it.

 

[Blazers46]

Sure they do. Target made mention of theft in an earnings call, literally one of the most important places to make the comment. Target CFO: 'Organized retail crime' contributed to hundreds of millions in lost profits in 2022

If Walmart thought it was such a pressing issue they would have mentioned it. They didn't mention it.

Target is not Walmart. And target is not most retailers, it’s one. And target is not announcing a bunch of closures in high crime areas. I know you sorely want to be right but it’s not something retailers like to talk about or announce. I owned retail franchises and worked a lot with loss prevention for the targets, Walmarts, Best Buy’s, along with law enforcement. I am still in many email groups and app groups associated with retail and loss prevention. I am sure talking about it was a strategic measure for target to appease shareholders or excuse earnings or whatever for a certain period of time.

 

[Blazers46]

Walmart closing stores in this large U.S. city on heels of CEO warning about high theft levels

Walmart CEO Doug McMillon had warned that an increase in theft across the country could force the retailer to either raise prices or close stores if the problem continued.

www.cleveland.com

 

[Blazers46]

Sure they do. Target made mention of theft in an earnings call, literally one of the most important places to make the comment. Target CFO: 'Organized retail crime' contributed to hundreds of millions in lost profits in 2022

If Walmart thought it was such a pressing issue they would have mentioned it. They didn't mention it.

To add. We always posted our theft to social media. Because we knew police and judges didn’t care and nothing would be done so it public shame is great punishment. Big box have a policy that even discourages law enforcement from posting for them or on their behalf. Kohls for example in NM actually fired their loss prevention because they saw having them was more of a liability because of the rise in theft and their policy that even loss prevention staff could only observe and report. Seemed backward and they ended up rehiring those positions, still a observe and report at Kohls and many other places. Many criminals know this so even the presence of loss prevention doesn’t deter. They can walk in and yell their intentions and nobody is allowed to stop them and police won’t be there for about 45 minutes. Sadly it’s why we shuttered everything we had in the retail space. Crime.

 

[GoIrish41]

Do you realize how silly it is for you to demand that anyone answer your questions or respond to your points or show you anything, given the, literally, hundreds of times you've simply changed the subject, reworded their question, dodged, obfuscated, spun, and generally whipped up yet another Toronto Vortex cyclone of spin to avoid tough questions and valid points? Answer my question about which, according to you, 100% real woman chick with a dick you find attractive and would bang. Answer my question about how, given that all the previous gun and crime laws don't stop gun violence, another set of laws will. Don't spin. Don't avoid. Don't reword the questions into something totally different and easy to answer (you know, that strawman thing you do so well). I asked those questions first. When you give a reasonable, honest, direct answer, then I'll gladly answer your questions. Go ahead. Show us you can do it.

This is why everyone thinks you are a douchebag. This long-winded shit post about not answering your questions, all while still not answering the questions about your own statements. What a disingenuous dick!

 

[TorontoGold]

Target is not Walmart. And target is not most retailers, it’s one. And target is not announcing a bunch of closures in high crime areas. I know you sorely want to be right but it’s not something retailers like to talk about or announce. I owned retail franchises and worked a lot with loss prevention for the targets, Walmarts, Best Buy’s, along with law enforcement. I am still in many email groups and app groups associated with retail and loss prevention. I am sure talking about it was a strategic measure for target to appease shareholders or excuse earnings or whatever for a certain period of time.

You said retailers don't share this data. Target shared this in an earnings call. These are not calls where you screw around. I want to see what data there is that can support the notion that an increase in crime in Portland lead to Walmart closing stores. No one has provided anything that would show that to be true. I don't have any attachment to Portland, just hilarious to see ideas trumpeted out without anything other than dude trust me.

Nice, and my anecdotal experience is that when issuing financial statements to a reporting agency you have to disclose material estimates and components to inventory. In Wal-Marts 10-K unfortunately doesn't list the granular components of inventory, but they do state inventory losses improved. Funny enough, they do list climate change as a significant risk in their 1.A which is where they would list store theft if it posed a significant threat to its operations. They also list in store shootings as a business risk as well.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

You would be sad to learn that a lot of government auction items are sold straight out of the evidence room.

We used to buy from these auctions all the time and I’ve bought things from diamond rings to cars with blood stains in the back seat.

I’m literally not sad at all. Lol. Good for you man. That’s not something I’d do. Enjoy the ghosts.

 

[Blazers46]

I’m literally not sad at all. Lol. Good for you man. That’s not something I’d do. Enjoy the ghosts.

I sell the ghosts.

 

[Irish#1]

It would be a bad look because the stats don't line up with it. If it was truly because of the theft they would have released their inventory loss rates to show the comparison between the Portland stores and their store average loss rate. They did not do that.

Target isn’t run by the same BoD is it? I could be wrong, but to my knowledge Target stores are typically in the burbs where as Wal Marts can be found inner city as well as the burbs.

 

[Blazers46]

You said retailers don't share this data. Target shared this in an earnings call. These are not calls where you screw around. I want to see what data there is that can support the notion that an increase in crime in Portland lead to Walmart closing stores. No one has provided anything that would show that to be true. I don't have any attachment to Portland, just hilarious to see ideas trumpeted out without anything other than dude trust me.

Nice, and my anecdotal experience is that when issuing financial statements to a reporting agency you have to disclose material estimates and components to inventory. In Wal-Marts 10-K unfortunately doesn't list the granular components of inventory, but they do state inventory losses improved. Funny enough, they do list climate change as a significant risk in their 1.A which is where they would list store theft if it posed a significant threat to its operations. They also list in store shootings as a business risk as well.

I am trying to stay neutral and not really have a position. I’m just saying retailers don’t brag or care to brag about shrinkage and the reasons why. This is coming from Walmart store management.

Inventory losses as a whole? Or inventory losses at a particular store? I would venture a guess that losses could improve company wide even with a handful of stores being ridiculously bad.

The CEO goes on the squakbox and tells the world that theft might lead to some store closures and then Walmart follows that up with closing stores in high crime areas. Seems like pretty simple math to me.

 

[Blazers46]

but they do state inventory losses improved.

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“Theft is an issue,” McMillon said. “It’s higher than what it’s historically been.”

The comments made by the CEO of the country’s largest retailer echo those made by Target CEO Brian Cornelllast month, who noted that the retailer has seen a “significant increase in organized retail crime across our business.”

“If that’s not corrected over time, prices will be higher and/or stores will close,” he told CNBC. “It’s really city by city, location by location.

 

[Irish#1]

The decision comes on the heels of the company’s CEO warning that theft issues could force store closures.

Walmart closing stores in this large U.S. city on heels of CEO warning about high theft levels

Walmart CEO Doug McMillon had warned that an increase in theft across the country could force the retailer to either raise prices or close stores if the problem continued.

www.cleveland.com

 

[IrishLax]

So in Missouri you can just shoot whoever knocks on your door and not get arrested?

 

[drayer54]

So in Missouri you can just shoot whoever knocks on your door and not get arrested?

If what happened is as described, no, you cannot. That is not self-defense, castle doctrine, or SYG. It is murder. That's assuming this is as described, which we don't really know. Recall the early reporting in Ferguson being woefully incorrect.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

So in Missouri you can just shoot whoever knocks on your door and not get arrested?

Yep. Sure can. He was let go.

 

[Blazers46]

If the police let him go on the info provided it’s insane. I am guessing the homeowner may have provided other details than “he rang my doorbell, he’s black, so I shot him”. I’m sure there is more to this story. Or for the Kansas City PDs sake I hope there is more.

We had two black kids that were obviously not part of our neighborhood going door to door yesterday selling boxes of mints for $15 per box. I am in Granger IN. They both had on black hoodies and they both had them over their head. I answered while I was away on my ring door bell and I highly suggested they not wear their hoods while walking the neighborhood. I caught up with them minutes later when I got home and one of the sweatshirts read “1800-GET-MONEY”. I had a long conversation about presentation and looking respectable when out canvassing any neighborhood but also know your customer.

 

[IrishLax]

Yeah so he got charged… still crazy they let him go under his own recognizance given the facts of the case. Dude literally shot him through his door with apparently no other context or interaction, per the prosecutor.

 

[drayer54]

Yeah so he got charged… still crazy they let him go under his own recognizance given the facts of the case. Dude literally shot him through his door with apparently no other context or interaction, per the prosecutor.

Makes sense. They prob wanted to do interviews and go through the process to issue a warrant. I doubt he’d do it twice. I’ve heard of people drunk walking into the wrong house and getting shot, but this is a terrified individual.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

If the police let him go on the info provided it’s insane. I am guessing the homeowner may have provided other details than “he rang my doorbell, he’s black, so I shot him”. I’m sure there is more to this story. Or for the Kansas City PDs sake I hope there is more.

We had two black kids that were obviously not part of our neighborhood going door to door yesterday selling boxes of mints for $15 per box. I am in Granger IN. They both had on black hoodies and they both had them over their head. I answered while I was away on my ring door bell and I highly suggested they not wear their hoods while walking the neighborhood. I caught up with them minutes later when I got home and one of the sweatshirts read “1800-GET-MONEY”. I had a long conversation about presentation and looking respectable when out canvassing any neighborhood but also know your customer.

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[Cackalacky2.0]

I had seen some people saying they were waiting for him to wake up to interview him before charging the shooter. Maybe they were able to do so and get the events from the kid.

 

[drayer54]

I had seen some people saying they were waiting for him to wake up to interview him before charging the shooter. Maybe they were able to do so and get the events from the kid.

You mean you can’t just request a warrant based on Twitter?

Glad the kid is ok.

 

[Irish#1]

What a frightening experience for this kid. Great news that he's going to recover, but this is going to stick with him for a long long time. Can't imagine what would cause this idiot to do that. Now that he's been arrested, screw his civil rights and throw away the key.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

What a frightening experience for this kid. Great news that he's going to recover, but this is going to stick with him for a long long time. Can't imagine what would cause this idiot to do that. Now that he's been arrested, screw his civil rights and throw away the key.

Now he gets to prove his innocence.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Now he gets to prove his innocence.

😂

 

[ab2cmiller]

Cack continuing to decide to steer into the skid. LOL

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Cack continuing to decide to steer into the skid. LOL

Bruh it’s a self referential joke 😂 ….but seriously Irish#1 has already decided he is guilty before we have had a trial. Lol 🤷‍♂️